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racing post running scare stories about the reduction of maximum stakes on fobts
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the only thing that will be pushed in shops is plus or grid sign ups and self service betting terminals. they want punters online, on mobile and using terminals. this will lead to a reduction of staff costs.
i still very much doubt that it will be anywhere near the £2 that some seem to think will be a given |
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BnB i have seen many a drunk man sold drink
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Shops will still be there for many years to come and the only ones - mainly- to close will be the very ones that opened in 1st place to accommodate getting extra machines in .
As ive said before on subject Ronnie Corals once upon a time liked to take a bet but when they went all "nobles amusements" they ended up losing some of their most profitable shops cos they wudnt take a bet on horseracing but thought fbots were there to stay and guaranteed income for em - eventually they fleeced the sheep and now the machines stand mainly empty in the North East and similarly the exact same will eventually happen in other parts of the country and they will end up wiv no customers cos people cant/wont bet on horseracing anymore . A change of business strategy is long overdue......but only after the horse has long since departed methinks  |
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evening Tom - it will be - £20- £25 a pop I reckon
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Evening Paul, yeah it may well be
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even the worst landlords don't let someone suffering from mental illness get miraculously drunk ,that would be a quick way to suffer problems with the licensing board . Birmingham has one of the highest rates of FOBT saturation and revenue in the U.K. i read .
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the problem for horse racing is when this generation goes, they wont be replaced, football and other sports the future.
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Correct - my son hardly ever bets on horses bar a Saturday yet religiously bets on footy and a day at the races for him and his mates is all about getting as much drink down their necks no matter what the cost wiv the betting side of things a minor niggle to them whilst they wait for whichever groups to appear on stage
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my son is the same and his mates, all football no horse racing and no interest, even though he was brought up with racing on the tv
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Went to Ebor back in August wiv some of his loons -all paid for on my behalf lol and they were gutted there was no band on afterwards
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If it is £2 maximum in reality how much profit will be lost
I doubt many players play more than £2 a go Most addicts I mean FOBT players still lose the same amount of money just take them longer I think it's bookies just lying like normal If loads of shops do close the only people I will feel sorry for is hills employees Every time I try and place a bet in hills the staff are still reality polite and treat the customer with respect say like every bookie stalk employee used to 15 years ago Betfred and paddy power are a utter disgrace the way I get talked to when trying to get on Hope all the staff get the boot on the dole the lot of them And it's utter rubbish now all this internet only on rptv flying four races How can it be media rights It you ain't taking pictures so what surely you can still take the bet Must be getting around taking on line bets as the bookie is registered abroad |
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How old are your sons? I'm early 30s and have loads of mates who go to the races to get off their heads. A fair few don't even have a bet and not one of them knows anything about racing. For 99.9% of people my age it's just a day on the lash and nothing more - at least that's the way that I see it.
The thing that I don't understand is why they travel to the races to do all of this. If you're not even watching most of it, why not go somewhere else? I suppose that they eventually all will, which leaves very few people paying into the sport in the end. I can't see any way back for racing. |
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at least that's the way that I see it
Just to clarify, I don't mean that I see racing as just a day on the lash, but that's how I think that they see it. |
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good excuse to put your cheap suit on and play charlie big spuds for a day ...
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31 and i totally agree Rob, why pay over inflated prices for drink in a plastic cup, that you probably had to cue for ages for.
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lets be honest, its not a cheap day out
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They do Rob - my sons in his early 20s and thick as Basil Brush re life - I watched one of my sons mates buy a cheap bottle of fizzy for £30-£36 cant remember exact amount and promptly drop it right in front of me covering me so it looked like I had p1ssed myself - they were so hammered and train back twice had chain pulled by other loons so much so that the transport police were on hand on every station on way back when we eventually got there
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ps my suit wasn't cheap lol
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good excuse to put your cheap suit on and play charlie big spuds for a day ...
One of the lads that I know buys a new suit every time he goes to the races. From Matalan. Says it's guaranteed to get wrecked, so he just bins it when he gets home. Then goes to the races, spends about £100 on booze, £50 on gear to ram up his nose and £5 on a placepot, which is usually dead after the first leg. and promptly drop it right in front of me covering me so it looked like I had p1ssed myself |
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was it you
in the Melrose |
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was lucky enough to be at the plate day the year Tominator won. walking up to the course beautiful day, this stunning blonde, a 10 all day just in front of us. she goes behind a bush for a piss, comes back out, gives her dress a wee tug down and walks on as though nothing happened,
ye cannae beat a bit of class amazing day though but carnage by the 4th race |
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nowt happened Tom .... move on
Recently found out that Marnie Simpson offa Geordie Shore is the daughter of one of my school pals |
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ps Chavs must be working tonight......but sometimes...... ya gotta bite
#classyguynot |
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The bookies are always prophesying the worst about a reduction in fobt limit would mean. But do they ever try and explain the sudden proliferation of betting shops in high streets of deprived areas sometimes with a betting entity having 2 or more in the same street? Instead of scaremongering the bookies ought to employ better qualified and knowledgeable personnel to run the bookmaking business rather than the likes of Simon Clare - someone who would sell his grandma to promote his paymaster - and Andy Hornby, a disgrace former Ceo of Hbos.
The bookies in the high street do not produce anything; they only create one job (single manning) but responsible for many miseries; the majority of the staff do not have a clue about bookmaking or taking bets. I bet you some of the present staff (new) do not even know/understand the difference between odds of 1/3 and 3/1 or calculate a double.treble without using the settling machine. If these people go sobeit, re-train like most and get a proper job! |
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The loss of jobs at Ladbrokes / Corals got anything to do with the GVC takeover ? Was highly published that head office staff would merge with obvious job losses there as 2 became 1.
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If one works in an industry where revenue and profits are derived mainly from the sick and deprived without a smidgeon of risk involved eg fobt (crack cocaine of betting) as it is the case in the high street betting shops operating under old betting/gaming licences and conditions then these shops should have been dealt with much earlier and/or not allowed to prosper/proliferate to its present magnitude/
It is long overdue these high street entities should not use the ill-gotten profits from fobt to sponsor/fund British Horse Racing, the sport of kings. It is common knowledge the majority of the present betting staff and some office personnel are unskilled and ignorance of betting. The fall-out from the demise of banks in the banking crisis, the Carillon, etc, thro no fault of their ordinary employees but solely their head honchos and/or short sighted/ill-informed/bonus orientated individuals of power resulted in high job losses thus the (expected) fall-out of a culling of high street betting shops from a reduction in fobt playing limit, in my opinion, pales into insignificance. Of course it is sad some of the employees in this industry will lose their jobs but which industry does not when faced with new trading conditions. maybe it is time for their head honchos to earn their keep and/or ship out! But funding of British Horse Racing from proceeds of the sick and deprived from fobts must never be allowed to continue any longer,...tough but evil needs to be eradicated by all means. |
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^good post
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90% who play them are certainly not sick and deprived,
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baldfred stated a few years if it wasn't for people on benefits JSA pension etc frequenting his shops then half his shops would close
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dukeofpuke
12 Feb 18 11:27 Joined: 04 May 03 | Topic/replies: 11,086 | Blogger: dukeofpuke's blog baldfred stated a few years if it wasn't for people on benefits JSA pension etc frequenting his shops then half his shops would close Find those quotes and get them in the public eye could be important |
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It is the Government's or taxpayers' money; the Government ie the Treasury shell out 100% and receive back 25% in tax revenue from fobt, the rest frittered away by bookies in the forms of dividends to shareholders, bonuses to the likes of Andy Hornby and Simon Clare, hospitalities and perks to senior individuals of companies concerned whist paying sh1tty wages to their betting shop staff in addition to introducing single-manning.
Fobt is evil, and any entity saying otherwise could enlighten themselves with visits to doctor/psychologist surgeries, the CAB, religious and legal establishments and affected families. The bookies are presently performing daylight robbery, period. I'd like to see the head honchos of betting entities publicly defending the presence of fobt in the high street and the miseries generated by fobt; debating with the aforementioned professionals or yours truly to assess how much these highly paid individuals actually understand and/or realise the negative ramifications of the appropriately named "crack cocaine of betting". |
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The amount of times i've been into a empty betting shop and seen the staff playing on them..Not Good
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Very true dambuster I questioned this once in a shop and was told that staff are encouraged to play on free mode to learn the games etc. that maybe true but everyone that I saw were playing with real money,nobody angrily whacks the buttons on free mode
 I had a few mates working at various shops that got the bullet for playing the FOBTS for small stakes it's supposed to be ZERO TOLERANCE |
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I thought fred would have encouraged his staff to play them, how bad, pay them low rubbish wages, and he gets it back on the FOBTS.
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than give them loans at extortionate rates
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https://www.racingpost.com/news/news/independents-plea-to-may-dont-throw-us-on-scrap-heap/321499
They're at it again |
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Did they tell the PM that the £2 minimum stake would also stop the world from spinning.
Why is it that the UK horse racing industry is "allegedly" totally dependant on FOBT revenue funding compared with France and Ireland et al, who are not dependant on this degenerate source. |
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Without doubt a new low from Millington's odious rag.
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I don't buy the paper, but that article almost makes me want to cancel my subscription to RP online, even though I'd be cutting off my nose to spite the face.
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WHEN IS THIS TO BE ANNOUNCED , about the reduction,, wouldnt they be better just making them illegal,, if bookmakers were to shut so be it ,, theres far to much on the streets anyway,, its mostlY women behind the counters, and the shouLd be at home , doing the dishes , and scrubbing the toilets,,
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