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its about time he was absolutely hammered by them for substandard riding
grossly overrated jockey |
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Buick did nothing wrong and I think some of you must be watching a different race.
As for the suggestion by some in this thread that he couldn't care less (or words to that effect) in a Gr1 with his jockey share of over £500k prize money for the winner, then that's just embarrassing! |
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You need help ^
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Huge help imo.Clueless....as per usual.
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He did nothing wrong??
The first mistake he made was not getting the rail and staying there... A blind man could see that! |
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Has Fahey commented yet or do we have to wait for the 9pm watershed?
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he was interviewed ihal - but was refained...
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Birchy said maybe punters never delved deep enough re Here Comes When!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a koont
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he was interviewed ihal - but was refained...
In chains? |
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OK I'll rephrase that slightly.
He did little wrong and whilst he could have done things a bit better, as in make sure Dettori had no chance of even trying to barge his way up the rail, which is what happened and cost Buick the race, it was still down to Dettori more than Buick that Ribchester was beaten. The reason Buick was halted in riding his finish was Dettori bumping him and than waving his whip in Ribchester's face and horses won't run into another jockey's whip. You can call me all the clueless names you like but it's there on the race video for all to see. |
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it was still down to Dettori more than Buick that Ribchester was beaten
The reason Buick was halted in riding his finish was Dettori bumping him and than waving his whip in Ribchester's face if buicks race riding skills were up to top class level , he would have made sure he kept the rail when he crossed over , if he did this, then at no point would your two statements above have happened |
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Fahey fined £1000 for not parading his horses in correct order? If that's true what a bunch of officious pr***s!
With all the obvious non-triers getting their handicap marks lowered you would hope they would be concentrating on serious breaches of the rules but no,a trainer gets the book thrown at him for not parading in order. Must be some ex army types in the stewards 'room. |
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Fahey fined £1000 for not parading his horses in correct order? If that's true what a bunch of officious pr***s!
With all the obvious non-triers getting their handicap marks lowered you would hope they would be concentrating on serious breaches of the rules but no,a trainer gets the book thrown at him for not parading in order. Must be some ex army types in the stewards 'room. |
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Yeah that's fair enough pablo-fanque and I conceded that after koikeeper mentioned it, even thought I knew as soon as I had sent my original message that I probably should have said little wrong rather than nothing.
Yet but since Buick didn't completely take the rail out of the equation for Dettori (and it's arguable as to whether he was entitled to try for that run and more a case of him having no no better option) my points then stand regarding the bump and Dettori's whip and it certainly does about Buick not caring about things too. |
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I have to admit I'm with ima on this one. Buick SHOULD have shut the door on Dettori as soon as he got over to the rail. He didn't and it was that that got him into the ensuing trouble.
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The armchair jockeys are out in force today.......The only person who can tell you what happened with the horse is the jockey not your impressions from your comfortable chair in front of the TV.
MY impression for what its worth.....the horse semed to hesitate when DEttori tried to come up his inside and only ran on when Dettori dropped back....was absolutely out of the jockeys control.If 1/2 a ton of racehorse decides to do whatever it wants 9stone of jockey can do FA about it. |
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just watched race for first time tonight, agree with ima, salmon etc only thing he did wrong was not keeping to rail
by being a horse out from rail he ran out of room then finished with a real flourish only reason he stopped riding briefly was to not bring ribchester down or put frankie over the rails, he was obv a very unlucky loser |
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That is the point, if he stayed on the rail,no room for Frankie and he would have won, so for that it was poor riding
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Buick DID everything WRONG in that race today. He hadn't the balls to go thru with it. Nothing to do with the horse. Horse would have went on if jockey allows him. It's in those situations that u need the likes of Fallon, Eddery, Murtagh, etc on top
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But the point I was trying to make and maybe not as well as I could have initially, was that whilst Buick should have bagged the rail completely, the fact he didn't doesn't allow Dettori to barge his way into trying for a run, once he knew he had his own horse racing in a poor position.
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ima - u know and I know if Kieron was on top we all know who wins.
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Oh dear we must have reached the 'blindingly obvious' as the Forum's own Henry Fonda has rolled up. I used to like that film.
Irrespective of track position the interview with Persad confirms that he wrongly assumed that the horse had nothing left to offer and consequently he gave up allowing the winner to develop a winning advantage. |
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I've always said on here Kriskin that it's often more about bad luck and/or decision making when a jockey is an unlucky loser, rather than that jockey couldn't ride his granny, as some on here tend to say.
Kieren had both bad luck in running and made certain race riding decisions like all jockeys do that resulted in unlucky losses. I even remember after the Bosra Sham ride in the Eclipse, the late Christopher Poole, the London Evening Standard racing correspondent claiming Fallon was little more than average ex-northern based job jockey, not up to the it as Henry Cecil's jockey and out of his depth. |
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Just watched the replay on RUK there. This ride gets worse every time I watch it. That was AWFUL. Fahey the man I know well will be livid. Buick will NOT ride this horse again
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Fascinating and hugely important race for the future of Ribchester's trainer and jockey.
Fahey's reputation must be diminished by stating before the race that he would "leave it to the boys" to decide the tactics. Too laid back in a race of this importance. Most observers expected rank outsider Toscanini to be the pacemaker. Even Hoiles' commentary wrongly said Toscanini was in the lead entering the hone straight. Buick illustrated why he is just a good and not a great jockey. He had the lead but did not seem able to control Ribchester entering the final furlong. Buick's decision to stop riding the horse for a vital couple of seconds definitely cost Ribchester,who finished strongly,the race. I fully endorse Kriskin's comments at 20.20 and would add Piggott to the list. It will be interesting to see if Fahey receives any more patronage from Godolphin and how Buick's career with Godolphin pans out after this afternoon's fiasco. |
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I didn't see the interview with Rishi so can't really comment on it, only to say I've seen others in the past talk of a particular interview that was nothing like what was actually said.
As has already been mentioned in the thread earlier, I thought Buick had explained things by saying: "the horse had lugged right-handed, and being mindful that he may run onto the heels of the winner, eased for a few strides before continuing to ride when the colt became re-balanced and ran straight again." Maybe the lugging right down the camber was what stopped him completely taking the rail, although he did then drift left away from a right-hand whip but that's when Dettori tried to go up his inner and bumped him, pushing him to the right. |
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Poor Buick.
If he'd have just continued easing down, no-one would have batted an eyelid and the Forum and the (Social) Media would have been sympathetic with him and the horse beaten by the terrible conditions. |
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He has been proven lacking in the minerals department all too often.
Ever since The Fugue I have had it in for him, will still back with him on but prefer not to. |
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was out today just watched
 WTF Looked Beat TBH But Looked like he Just gave up ,then Had 2nd Thoughts when frankie found nothing  |
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Mr F was hugely diplomatic I thought little disappointed though Sheikh Mo must send him a few more horses.
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Nice to see this thread still going. In my Buick thread my opening post was 'Never saw a stranger ride.'
It's not what I wanted to say because pocket talking might have entered the equation. Just watched the race a again with gritted teeth and it's good to see so many forumites calling a spade a spade. |
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it was a terrible and gutless ride. Not corrupt just inept, he failed to secure the rail and shut off his inside which is bad enough when dictating and then he didn't have the balls to narrow the gap and get Frankie thinking about grapes and IV feeds. If he allowed Rib to race undistracted by another horse or jockeys whip then Fahey would have no complaint. Thou shall not go up my inner was once a sacred tenet.
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Always rated him
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did well to get that up
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The worst winning ride youll see all week. Horse got him out of sheet
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Amazing what happens if you ride them out
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i doubt that
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one horse I never expected to collect from ..
all sorts of trouble on trouble on trouble .. Buick .. tried to the end that looked ..............NYE . .. RATHER PULLED IT OFF AGAINST ALL ODDS .. Uncomfortable VIEWING .. IF YOUR LIFE WAS ON THE LINE . ???? |
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was it the first horse this week to find trouble up the straight ?
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