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factmachine
04 Apr 17 14:32
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WHEN YOU HAVE MATT CHAPMAN AT THE LAST DONCASTER MEETING WALKING AROUND TATTS SAYING "THE FAVOURITE IS 9/2 WHEN 11/2 IS FREELY OFFERED IN THE RING" , ITS HAPPENING EVERY MEETING EVERY DAY,ANYONE GOING TO AINTREE THIS WEEK WILL SEE IT FIRST HAND,THE GRAND NATIONAL WILL PROBABLY BE THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THE OFF COURSE BETTING PUBLIC BEING RIPPED OFF,UTTER DISGRACE, NOTHING SAID,NOTHING WILL BE DONE,THESE PEOPLE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE DEATH OF THE GAME AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON YET CONTINUE TO RETURN BENT SPS TO THE PUBLIC!

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By:
Barton Bank
When: 04 Apr 17 14:36
The Grand National SPs are scandalous, of that there can be no doubt.
By:
workrider
When: 04 Apr 17 14:46
The books will tell you its market forces,we know different,its shameful what happens to once a year punters .Never a word said againt.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 04 Apr 17 14:51
cheltenham sps were shocking this year..donny always had a rep for greedy bookies..others catching up.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 04 Apr 17 15:01
national is well known for shortening most horses up near off its a BIG ripp off that happens every year
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 15:02
KENNY YOUR MISSING THE POINT,THE VALUE ONCOURSE FOR THE PUNTER IS FANTASTIC AND NEVER BEEN BETTER,THIS ISNT REFLECTED IN THE SPS BEING RETURNED TO THE BETTING SHOPS WHICH ARE CORRUPT!
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 15:07
TONY MCOYS LAST NATIONAL MOUNT SHUTTHEFRONTDOOR WAS RETURNED 6/1 WHEN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS (95%) WERE A MINIMUM OF 9/1,THE SP WAS FRAUDELENT AND HAD THE HORSE WON WOULD HAVE DEPRIVED THE BETTING PUBLIC OUT OF MILLIONS!
By:
dave d
When: 04 Apr 17 15:18
afternoon lord facts hope ya on the mend ,,,,shutthefrontdoors sp was a disgrace as we had twelve on the board at the off many had between ten and fourteen and only joes were trying to shorten it up !!!Cry
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 15:28
HI DAVE,HOPEFULLY BACK FOR SUMMER,SO FRUSTRATING WATCHING RACING AND SEEING SOME OF THE SPS BEING RETURNED,LAST WEEK AT WOLVS A HORSE WAS RETURNED 7/4, 4.3 ON HERE,ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS BUT ITS BECOMING MORE PREVELANT,THEY ARE DRIVING PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE GAME BOTH ONCOURSE BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY OFF!
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 15:35
business was very good in the good pitches at Doncaster on Saturday , facts , where were you ?
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 15:39
sorry , if you're still not fit enough to join the merry band but your dulcet tones were missed
By:
Zsa_Zsa_Gabors_Leg
When: 04 Apr 17 15:39
Educate me


How and who are rigging SP's ??
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 15:42
BY "GOOD PITCHES" DO YOU MEAN THE ONES THAT WERE LAYING 9/2 THE HORSE THAT WAS 11/2 FREELY OFFERED???? AS FOR ME ADGE I WISH I HAD BEEN THERE BUT MY INJURIES WONT ALLOW IT AT THE MO Sad
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 15:48
sorry to hear that you're still not back to full fitness. yes the 9/2 each of two was being snapped up. can't confirm if the 11/2 on the back lines was...........too busy
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 15:49
ZSA,EVERY DAY SP RETURNERS ARE RETURNING HORSES WAY BELOW THE PRICES BEING OFFERED BY THE MAJORITY OF ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS,THERE ARE THE CHOSEN FEW THAT ARE IN THE "SAMPLE" THE SAMPLE BEING THE BOOKMAKERS CHOSEN TO HAVE THEIR PRICES USED FOR THE SP,THIS IS A CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET THAT NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW,BUT THE REPS FROM THE BIG THREE SEEM TO HAVE AN UNCANNY SKILL OF BEING ABLE TO GUESS WHO THEY ARE Laugh THE CRITERIA FOR BEING IN THE"SAMPLE" SEEMS TO BE YOU WONT LAY A BET UNLESS YOU CAN FIRE IT ALL BACK INTO HEREShocked
By:
katverrat
When: 04 Apr 17 16:10
who owns copyright of the SP system? therein lies the problem. The SP executive are a puppet for the real owners
By:
jamilla14
When: 04 Apr 17 17:21
The SP returned is the best price available on 50% of the boards in the sample. The sample on a normal day chooses itself with few bookmakers in attendance but on busier days like Aintree, Cheltenham, Royal Ascot etc...the sample will be selected by the SP Validator employed by PA Sport. SiS, Turf TV and The Racing Partnership (Arena tracks) will use the same books for betting shows. The course reps employed by Ladbrokes, W Hills and Corals are not supposed to be aware of who is and who isn't in the sample. Unsurprisingly, they always are and the SP Executive are well aware of this but chose to do nothing about it.
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 17:52
SO THIS RANCID, FRAUDULENT,CORRUPT SYSTEM IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE,AS IN MOST CASES THE BENEFICIARIES ARE THE PROMINENT PITCH HOLDERS WHO JUST HAPPEN IN MOST CASES TO BE BOOKMAKERS REPRESENTATION ON MOST IF NOT ALL ORGANISATIONS,THE SWAMP NEEDS DRAINING BUT AT THE MOMENT I DONT KNOW HOW!
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:23
Exposure on a stage far more public than this one might be one way Fact.
By:
BigField
When: 04 Apr 17 18:26
Democrat people simply don't want to know, no one has sympathy for gamblers, other than other gamblers it would seem
By:
chavman
When: 04 Apr 17 18:34
ftr adge your board was on primetime itv on saturday...
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:36
DEMOCRAT,YOUR QUITE RIGHT SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOW VERY POWERFUL,THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE STOPPED THEY TRUELLY ARE KILLING THE GAME!
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:36
The converse of that argument Big is that people have even less sympathy for bookmakers ! QED
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:38
Social media is one mechanism Fact. I was thinking more along the lines of National press.
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:38
CHAV,UNFORTUNATELY ADGE BETS YORKSHIRE EWAY TERMS AS DO MOST OF THE FRONT LINE AND "GOOD PITCHES"CryCryCry
By:
chavman
When: 04 Apr 17 18:39
id wager 8/15 he could spell truly though
By:
chavman
When: 04 Apr 17 18:41
no e/w terms required
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:43
DEMOCRAT,SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE AND IF ITS VIA THE NATIONAL PRESS THEN SO BE IT,HAD SHUTTHEFRONT DOOR WON THE HEADLINES WOULD HAVE BEEN "NATIONAL DISGRACE" ALL ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS AT ALL RACECOURSES WOULD HAVE BEEN TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH WITH EVEN MORE IRREPRIBLE DAMAGE BEING DONE THAN WHATS TAKING PLACE DAILY AT OUR RACECOURSES!
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 18:45
yes , they barge in and set up with matt chapman , cameraman , sound engineer totally stopping you taking bets. don't ask permission. anyway I was 4/1 oh this is us when matt started but altered the show to 9/2 each of two immediately to mess him up [ which it apparently didn't ]...for those interested in these things oh this is us was 5.5 on here at the time
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 18:46
22 runners 1/4 odds 1-2-3-4 in the Lincoln
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:46
SPELLING NOT HIGH ON MOST BOOKMAKERS AGENDA Grin TRULLYCool
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:47
Did your change have a DOMINO effect adge ? Boom boom. How did you get on last night by the way ?
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:49
ADGE VERY RARELY KNOCKS LaughLaughLaugh
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:50
SINCE HE WAS REPRIMANDED FOR KNOCKING WITH A GOER!Shocked
By:
adge
When: 04 Apr 17 18:50
winter season ended..team finished second at both darts and at dominoes..summer season starts Monday of week after mayday so no games
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:51
He knocks SPOTS off all the other layers !! Laugh
By:
factmachine
When: 04 Apr 17 18:52
HE KNOCKS SPOTS OF HIS EWAY TERMS CryCry
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:53
Summer League dominoes ??? Bring it on !!! Cry
By:
BigField
When: 04 Apr 17 18:55
do you bet on the summer dominos? I'm in if so
By:
democrat
When: 04 Apr 17 18:57
You can have 'double six' anytime ! But not 66/1 !! Laugh
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