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David Nicholls‏ @dnichollsracing 1h1 hour ago

Sovereign Debt was our last runner from Tall Trees, as due to financial problems we have had to cease training.
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Report cardifffc March 8, 2017 9:55 PM GMT
is it that case against him that's caused this
Report Deltâ March 8, 2017 10:06 PM GMT
HITs


2011 = 120 in training

2017 = 23 listed
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 March 8, 2017 10:19 PM GMT
Gone t.i.t.s  up
Report duncan idaho March 8, 2017 10:21 PM GMT
racing's finest cueball noggin out to grass at 60
Report bingobango March 8, 2017 10:40 PM GMT
Will be remembered for landing a touch or two
Report mincer11 March 8, 2017 10:49 PM GMT
He will be sadly missed, a great man with young fillies. There was no one better to get one ready.
Report workrider March 8, 2017 10:56 PM GMT
Very sad too hear that,met him in Thirsk last year,he was a top man with sprinters, hope he has a great retirement.
Report ladycarla March 8, 2017 10:57 PM GMT
Won me plenty at glorious Goodwood will be missed.
Report isleham March 9, 2017 12:03 AM GMT
what of his son now
Report vindaloo March 9, 2017 12:05 AM GMT
whos been a naughty boy Devil
Report Sir Epicure Mammon March 9, 2017 12:12 AM GMT
isleham,his son quit riding a while back. He works at Northern Racing College and has a livery yard with his missus.
Report acey deucy March 9, 2017 12:13 AM GMT
Sad to hear that....I am guessing the guy has a serious drink problem,every time i seen him being interviewed he always looked half cut.
Report Facts March 9, 2017 1:33 AM GMT
Dandy Nicholls the ' Sprint King'
Sad to see such a decline.

Always remember him winning on Soba in the 1982 Stewards Cup. Listened to the race in a telephone box whilst on holiday in Skegness !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M6hb3LMPhkM

As a trainer could always be relied upon to produce some good priced winners in top Handicaps.
Goodwood was often a prosperous hunting ground.
Report Happy Valley March 9, 2017 5:53 AM GMT
only met him once, in hk one international week, we happened to be in the same club, i was ordering at the bar he came stood alongside and wanted to have a fight, ****wit imo as a person, clearly could train, and train really well, i believe heavily influence, and why not, by the late David Chapman for whom he obviously rode plenty
Report hardestgame March 9, 2017 6:39 AM GMT
it all gone tits up for him
Report Deltâ March 9, 2017 8:26 AM GMT
Nicholls calls time on training career
By Andrew Dietz 9:17PM 8 MAR 2017

DAVID NICHOLLS, dubbed the 'Sprint king' after winning nearly every major Group 1 sprint, has announced he is to quit training with immediate effect.

Nicholls, who partnered more than 400 winners as a jockey, took up training in 1992 and won the July Cup, Nunthorpe and Prix de l'Abbaye.

Continent and Regal Parade struck twice at Group 1 level for the trainer, while the likes of Bahamian Pirate, Moss Vale and Tax Free helped him dominate the sprinting scene for years.

Nicholls, who endured a lean spell in recent seasons, faces a trial in the summer on two charges of sexual assault relating to incidents at his Tall Trees yard in Sessay, near Thirsk in North Yorkshire.

His final runner was a winner as stable star Sovereign Debt landed a valuable race in Doha last month.

Nicholls, 60, tweeted on Wednesday night: "Sovereign Debt was our last runner from Tall Trees as due to financial problems we have had to cease training.

"It was nice to go out on a high during what has been a difficult time and I'd like to thank all our owners that have supported us."

Former champion jockey Silvestre de Sousa tweeted: "So sad to hear that Dandy Nicholls has had to give up training. #toptrainer #sprintking."
Report ribero1 March 9, 2017 8:52 AM GMT
Remember him when he started with Bastiman,all the lads (4 or 5 of them) used to come in the local pub most nights and with my interest in racing I use to have a chat with them,he was the one with a bit of a chip on the shoulder etc,probably helped him succeed no doubt.Bastiman used to send plenty of his fancied ones to Yarmouth and remember him beating Lester in a photo finish there as a young apprentice,think it was called Ruddy Drake (maybe 33/1?)and owned by Reg Spencer of Night Nurse fame.
A good friend of mine had a few with him including organising the syndicate who had Flak Jacket which they had a lot of fun with but my pal always maintained that despite appearing to be a shrewdie in his opinion he was far from it.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2017 9:31 AM GMT
was a really good target trainer in his pomp but the recent bad publicity must have hurt the business as well as the rise of competing stables, particularly o'meara - never rated trotter as a jockey so won't miss him but didn't know he'd already retired
Report onlooker March 9, 2017 9:39 AM GMT
He must have been backing one of his owners, Henry Rix's, tips.
Report Happy Valley March 9, 2017 9:43 AM GMT
nice one ribero. for sure nicholls always chip on his shoulder.

robin bastiman v underestimated trainer imo

and onlooker v droll.
Report Happy Valley March 9, 2017 9:44 AM GMT
in fact henry R was with nicholls the night the drunken pr!ck accosted me at the bar. rix and ashley carr. i have a feeling they owned the horse, or at least ashley did, which nicholls trained.
Report Deltâ March 9, 2017 10:05 AM GMT
Rebecca beat Robins best season [numerically) in her very first season - one to follow ...
Report sixtwosix March 9, 2017 10:05 AM GMT
Chaplins Club and Glencroft running and winning time after time , in a different racing world are great memories.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 9, 2017 10:11 AM GMT
Looks like nobody involved in the Father Hayes coup came out of it on the right side in the end.

Twenty-five years ago this June.Shocked
Report 1st time poster March 9, 2017 10:15 AM GMT
wasnt it gift horse or something that landed punts for henry rix and co,that dandy trained,did it win the stewards ?
Report onlooker March 9, 2017 10:27 AM GMT
blimey - screaming from beneaththewaves

Normally when you look back on events - you fall short by a few years - or a good few years, the older you get ... But in this instance, I would have guessed at thirty years, or so.

Poor Will Pearce - only a few days afterwards - and still something of a mystery - to all except insiders, perhaps.

Maybe he didn't get as much as he needed out of it.
Report intheknow March 9, 2017 10:33 AM GMT
Yes, Gift Horse winning the Stewards Cup was one of Fallon's finer moments
Report Callisto-moon March 9, 2017 10:43 AM GMT
Very bad judge.
My boss had 5-6 horses with them his info was expensive to follow.
Report TELL DEL March 9, 2017 11:08 AM GMT
"....clearly could train, and train really well, i believe heavily influence, and why not, by the late David Chapman for whom he obviously rode plenty"

Agree, almost certainly Chapman was a big influence on him, Chapman's record of success with his sprinters was amazing, and Nicholls obviously learnt a lot from him. Always remember SOBA especially, and CHAPLINS CLUB.
Report howard March 9, 2017 11:19 AM GMT
Took one of the best ever sprint fillies to beat her. Habibti.
Report barstool March 9, 2017 11:42 AM GMT
I have seen him in the owners bar at Southwell a few times, they stocked a white wine for him which they would not serve to anyone else. He drank it like beer too.

Difficult times for a lot of yards now due to the appalling level of prize money, there must be a lot like him tottering on the brick.

Wish him well in his retirement.
Report ProSniper March 9, 2017 12:12 PM GMT
I'll always remember him for giving a charity bet on one his fancied runners - only to see it run like a joke..as another he trained(25/1 "outsider") romped the race! Crooked to the core. And its good riddance to his Mickey Mouse operation.
Report know all March 9, 2017 12:20 PM GMT
I remember a big gamble I think goodwood or Epsom n connerton up backed from 20/1 to around 2/1 almighty gamble pulled off
Things change one of the old breed of trainers i didn't back his or avoided races he was involved in so was never disappointed and saved a fortune doing so
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 12:41 PM GMT
Also nice to see the casual humour thrown about regarding his sexual abuse of vulnerable young stable girls.
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 12:41 PM GMT
Always*
Report the dealer March 9, 2017 12:46 PM GMT
from what i'm told there is no truth in it
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 12:52 PM GMT
It's peoples attitude towards the alleged assaults which I find sickening Dealer.
We'll let the courts decide but this isn't something unheard of in racing just the majority never go forward as they fear for their future in racing.
Report the dealer March 9, 2017 12:58 PM GMT
unfortunately it would appear to happen in lots of sports and those responsible should never get away with it.
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 1:03 PM GMT
Agreed.
Report by purpose March 9, 2017 2:40 PM GMT
Never done anything under hand..
Report McCoy Carp March 9, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
I imagine the layers will be sad to see him go. Never had much confidence in him as a trainer.
Report Mick Sturbs March 9, 2017 3:43 PM GMT
I thought he was a bit of a "rip off" merchant sending horses on long distances with very little chance, just to make a bit on travelling expenses
Report onlooker March 9, 2017 3:52 PM GMT
Reaklistically speaking - Will he be missed?

Having 8 runners in the Ayr Gold Cup ...

- 7 more in the Silver Cup  -

- and another 8 in the Bronze version ...

Hardly did Punters, the races, nor racing itself any favours ...

No matter how many fawners in the Media liked to 'big it up'. Cry
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I was at Mick Easterbys yard, the day that it emerged that Dandy had overlooked making ALL his Entries for the AYR GOLD CUP... and so Dandy had NO runners whatsoever, that year, 2006.

Mick was beside himself with laughter. Grin
Report by purpose March 9, 2017 4:35 PM GMT
Who ever the girls are there someones daughters and dont deserve to be treated like a piece of meat for the gratification of any man.
Report TheFear March 9, 2017 4:39 PM GMT
ffs posy Sad
Report posy March 9, 2017 4:50 PM GMT
I'm not trivialising the matter as i don't know the circumstances however if at work in the City 20 years ago someone touched up a female colleague after lunch it would likely be a rap on the knuckles ,an apology and that would be the end of the matter. Times have changed however I very much doubt that Nicholls (who has something of the cave man about him) has kept abreast of the way such behaviour is now viewed.
Report TheFear March 9, 2017 4:58 PM GMT
That's why Rolf and co are in jail m8
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 5:03 PM GMT
by purpose nails it.
Report cardifffc March 9, 2017 5:30 PM GMT
gutfeeling............bet you are great company
Report the dealer March 9, 2017 6:07 PM GMT
there was a suggestion she/they were on social media boasting about how much money they/she was/were going to get. it was also suggested that the same situation happened at another stable she/they worked at. if guilty he deserves what comes to him but he isnt guilty yet and by purpose that is correct but in this case how do you know it is true.
Report gutfeeling March 9, 2017 6:14 PM GMT
I am actually cardiff but I don't make light of sexual abuse, Sorry if you or the company you keep finds that kind of thing amusing.
Do let the forum know if it ever happens to your daughter/grandaughter or sister, I'll get my comedic hat on for that thread and then no doubt you'll think I'm a callous w@nker.
Report by purpose March 9, 2017 8:42 PM GMT
Where did i say he was guilty DEALER. Think i used the words any man.
Report the dealer March 9, 2017 8:45 PM GMT
where did i say you did,
Report Breedingmad March 9, 2017 8:50 PM GMT
The cost of Lawyers and Solicitors nowadays can quickly send any business or person over the top
and ruin them, even if they are innocent it is a sad fact the law is only available for the rich.
Report mrcombustible March 9, 2017 9:53 PM GMT
Yes I noticed at the last hearing he was represented by a local Solicitor, at his first hearing he was represented by London firm BCL who represented Fallon in the Old Bailey trial and Harry Redknapp with his little problem.
Report Nosuchthingasvalue March 9, 2017 10:15 PM GMT
He is entitled to legal aid
Report Facts March 9, 2017 10:54 PM GMT
Well said gutfeeling.
Report halcyon days March 9, 2017 11:05 PM GMT
No doubting that ''Dandy'' could train... but watching him being interviewed, one got the impression he was very ''shady!''  The truth will ''out'' re: the girls testimonys and Nicholls time under cross examination !
Report PJay March 9, 2017 11:45 PM GMT
Happy memories of Redford in the Ayr Gold Cup. Watching Frankie ride on him two races beforehand was almost enough. I couldn't wait for the race to get going and then Frankie mentions in the preliminaries on tv that he's going to win! Rare that those ones come around which is of course why they stick in the memory.

Never really knew what to make of Dandy as a person but it's a sad way for any trainer to bow out.
Report Happy Valley March 10, 2017 5:55 AM GMT
onlooker and screaming - Will Pearce, that's a very sad reminder. Had a bit to do with him via Deano. I was shocked. Never did know what it was really all about. I thought he truly did suffer depression.
Report sageform March 10, 2017 8:32 AM GMT
Rapid fall from grace and another example of how few flat jockeys make a long career of training.
Report mrcombustible March 10, 2017 8:33 AM GMT
Nosucthing anyone that gets a Legal Aid lawyer to defend them is at risk because all decent Lawyers have given up legal aid work as it is unprofitable with the cuts that have been imposed over the last 10 years.
With a case such as Dandy's just say it is a 2 day trial with 50 pages of evidence, the legal aid payment to Solicitor is £1400 approx, if the case discontinues or ends as a guilty plea  the fee is then about £600.

To pay privately the hourly rate will be somewhere in the region of £250 to £750 an hour depending on the firm instructed so the minimum for private would be about £5000.
Report everton1978 March 10, 2017 8:36 AM GMT
He's been training for 25 years Sageform which last time I checked was a long career
Report Raggetty March 10, 2017 10:07 AM GMT
Looks as though most of the debt is owed to sales companies.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/256k-debt-revealed-as-trainer-nicholls-quits-1-8431166
Report Nosuchthingasvalue March 10, 2017 10:41 AM GMT
mrcombustible, my "best mate" has his own criminal legal aid practise so, understandably, I will have to disagree that "all decent Lawyers (sic) have given up legal aid work"! If I ever need one, he would be the only solicitor I would call. I know the cuts have killed a lot of them but one or two "community-minded" decent ones survive!
Report barstool March 10, 2017 12:16 PM GMT
Do not be at all surprised if his assetts are all in his wifes name. He is declared bankrupt. Then starts up again without having to pay the debts off.

I hope I am wrong but this is how the game is played.
Report spyker March 10, 2017 12:28 PM GMT
If it's good enough for the Dunlops......
Report cardifffc March 10, 2017 2:12 PM GMT
gutfeelings.............always thought that one was innocent until proven guilty................but not you by the sound of it
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