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By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 13:21
My suggestions for racing

1) - A Tote(monopoly) online exchange, I think it important it starts online, followed by shops.

End of suggestion!
By:
treble
When: 11 Jan 17 13:30
I'll miss it. Have some great memories of me and my mates jumping a train from Waterloo after work for the summer evening flat meetings. Those meetings always had a very uplifting feel about them. Nice sunshine, cold beer, some lovely ladies and good races. Sandown never seemed to go in much for the evening racing. Dont know if they do now. They certainly should if Kempton shuts. Their has to be a course close to London doing decent summer evening racing.
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 13:45
so no room for race course bookmakers then metro john some who spend upwards of 30,000 a year on badge and entry fees on the uk tracks money i doubt they can turn away.
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 13:57

Jan 11, 2017 -- 1:45PM, foxy wrote:


so no room for race course bookmakers then metro john some who spend upwards of 30,000 a year on badge and entry fees on the uk tracks money i doubt they can turn away.


No room at all anymore, a online tote monopoly including football and all sports betting is the way to go.

By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 13:58
less resistance off punters with the online end and deductions similar if not same as is here!
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 14:01
sounds thrilling a tote monopoly.
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:02
Embrace change foxy, this model is the way to go, let it go!Wink
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:05
A Tote exchange is not the current tote, the deductions can be the same as betfair, we just have to change our mind state a little
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:08
Racing especially those within racing must call for it, that is the hard part??? stand or die.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:09
restricting choice is almost never the way to go
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 14:11
a good example of that wondersobright is only having one trade paper a very weak one because it can be.
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:12
No need to buy out this firm, start fresh,steady growth close competition and bobs ya uncle revenue to keep the historic races and jobs. Course need to improve method of revenue within their property. Many courses will still have to close , this is inevitable in the short term.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 11 Jan 17 14:12
Who is to say they won't be back in another 10 years to do the same to Sandown .
Like many aspects of life in the UK these days , I feel very strongly that very few people in positions of authority are working for their clients interests.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:15

Jan 11, 2017 -- 2:11PM, foxy wrote:


a good example of that wondersobright is only having one trade paper a very weak one because it can be.


perfect example of a failed monopoly

only propped up by funding

By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:15

Jan 11, 2017 -- 2:09PM, wondersobright wrote:


restricting choice is almost never the way to go


You are thinking in the box, the capitalism you talk of is no more, it is now a dictatorship from the monopoly banks ,companies etc, Bald fred is now a sharks ,how do you manage to offer staff loans within the betting industry(lets not get left behind, the books have changed their methods, let racing change to compete)

By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:16
and a tote monopoly is thinking outside the box??

right, ok
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:16
metro john 1.01 corbynister
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:24
I would ask trainers and staff to consider my point, the Media sponsored by Bookmakers is very much like the Bank control over Governments, you will never get the call to action that is needed. Sherwood and Henderson are correct, but strategy and goal must be established.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:27
in no way have I suggested the current situation is perfect but a tote monopoly is not the answer

betting into a tote market is not what most people do over here and you would see pitiful pools only slightly less on their arse than what they are now
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:28

Jan 11, 2017 -- 2:16PM, wondersobright wrote:


metro john 1.01 corbynister


A Bevanite, bought up in a capitalist socialist environment (a mix)

By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:29

Jan 11, 2017 -- 2:27PM, wondersobright wrote:


in no way have I suggested the current situation is perfect but a tote monopoly is not the answerbetting into a tote market is not what most people do over here and you would see pitiful pools only slightly less on their arse than what they are now


You are thinking in the box, and the propaganda that we are perpetually given is apparent. Think Tote exchange, think bigger.

By:
carrot1960
When: 11 Jan 17 14:31
Kempton has the "KING GEORGE " and !
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:40
The exchanges were born with the goal of making it easier and without travelling to make a bet, the ongoing economic climate will dictate that people(the greater mass) slow their past habit of attending racetrack, the outlook is bleak with the current set up in racing, it does not take an economic genius to see the outlook for trainers and staff, now is the time to start taking racing back in the direction that keeps the sport alive. We must break attachments with the bookmakers.Happy
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:45
MJ have you for 1 minute considered the betting habits of punters in this country?

no I thought not

its not propaganda, its a deep rooted mindset that we (most people) take prices over here

if the tote was the only option to bet on horse racing, I simply would not bet at all...and I suspect I am not the only 1 with this view

a tote system funding a vibrant racing industry is a nice idea but it is utopia I'm afraid
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:49
Do you take a price on exchanges Wondersobright? I hope you can see the vision.
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:50
Betfair is not a utopia, we would just be copying it.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:51
I either take or request prices on here MJ

I don't put money into a pool and cross my fingers I get a price that I will like
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:51
I am not talking pool for christ sake man.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:51
ah so you are suggesting an "industry exchange" not a tote??
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:52
A Tote exchange for the industry.
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:53
With on-course terminals and shops to be incorporated in time. (we can dream)
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:55
the word tote means parimutuel betting, ie a pool system

you are not proposing a tote, you are proposing an industry exchange...correct?
By:
metro john
When: 11 Jan 17 14:58
The two meaning the same thing ultimately
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 14:59
please explain how they can ever mean the same thing??

an exchange is based on people specifying prices
a pool is the exact opposite
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 15:05
Wondersobright

This fellow will send you nuts I think there is something wrong with him.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Jan 17 15:07
Laugh
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 15:11
He got me the other night
By:
intheknow
When: 11 Jan 17 16:02
I'm worried about you Foxy

You've been on more threads in the last week than Factmachine was when he was firing shots everywhere Laugh
By:
foxy
When: 11 Jan 17 16:06
Just bored intheknow should not be here in January although the closing of any racecourse would get me at it I was the same with Folkestone and Hereford ,going racing at the end of the week so will cut down on here.
By:
democrat
When: 11 Jan 17 16:32
Check the weather before you set off foxy Wink
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