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Geoff Banks 'roast' of Bruce Millington
Geoff Banks 'roast' of Bruce Millington
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many on course books will lay you place only but as you never leave the house you would not know that enjoy your cup of tea.
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i have a GB account.
you dont have to provide any ID to open/withdraw money. tbf, i have only placed 2 bets in 18 months with Geoff. I agree with most of what he has written. |
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Drop in TV figures probably down to the envy by the poor of a sport they can no longer afford?
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Facts and John must be related.
I bet they moan about service when they are eating out too.  |
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you are perfectly entitled to your view metro john and i accept the recent publicity the on course books are getting is not good but believe me there are plenty of decent ones out there who just wont to play a fair game.
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i must admit very few display place only bets taken it is something i will address as your not the first to mention it.
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They never will!
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and if they do they will be shorter than Betfair.
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cost are ridiculous in this country hotels and bang average hotels are my biggest bug bearer.
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they never will what ?
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I was looking at going to the Greyhound Derby next year(I don't drive), Towcester 10mile from nearest train station, £25 taxi+, Hotels at towcester are few, and £90 + per night, you gotta travel to get cheap by the train station, what a nightmare, I will not be going!
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you have lost me here 1626 post ?
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Christ they are charging £18 in Worcester.
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Often heard on track.. Ladbr0kes rep to bookie...
"What price is Dancing Music?" "5/2 sir" "Great, can I have £500 at 7/4 please". "With pleasure!". Horse cut to 7/4.. Still 3.8 on here. Everyones a winner. |
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^ that sounds about correct. If they even take any cash?
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equine very few books were ever involved in that.
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Still goes on.Corporate power.
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Wolves management seem to think it happens..
SUSPICIONS that starting prices at British race meetings are being fixed in order to save the betting industry thousands of pounds per race emerged on Friday in an extraordinary warning letter to on-course bookmakers written by management at Wolverhampton. The shock claim was made in a letter to all Wolverhampton pitch holders from David Roberts, managing director at the all-weather venue, amid concerns they may have been in breach of a rule which resulted in "distorting artificially the betting market or starting price". In his letter, Roberts said: "The racecourse has recently become aware that some bookmakers may be in danger of contravening [the] requirement by laying off-course hedging money at starting price rather than the prevailing fixed odds price at the time the bet was struck." If an on-course bookmaker was to lay a big firm hedging into the ring at starting price as opposed to the show at the time, this would result in the layer saving money should the horse win. More importantly, in betting markets with few bookmakers, the firm hedging are aware that the starting price is very likely to be notably lower than the show at the time. Roberts refused to confirm or deny whether he or any of his staff had witnessed the process happening, but revealingly his letter said: "We have observed the impact of the this practice in the betting ring and it is the racecourse's view that such behaviour invites accusations of price fixing and collusion which, consequently, may jeopardise the racecourse's premises licence and compromise the integrity of the betting ring." There were 1,170 bookmakers in attendance at 97 meetings at Wolverhampton last year, an average of 12 per meeting, and at Friday's meeting as is often the case throughout the winter they bet from a position inside the grandstand standing shoulder to shoulder. Wolverhampton is one of a number of all-weather tracks, with a weak on-course market, where on occasions over the last few months starting prices of certain runners have been returned notably shorter than the final show and, in some circumstances, in contrast to a drift of the betting exchanges. Such instances give rise to accusations of manipulation of starting prices but the organisation which monitors returns, the Starting Price Regulatory Commission has so far opted not to take action. Robin Grossmith of the Federation of Racecourse Bookmakers on Friday night said he was unaware of any accusations against individual bookmakers. "It has always been the case that you mustn't conduct yourself in a manner against the rules," he said. "It is now in the racecourse terms and conditions of entry and it appears all they are doing is flagging up the rules. "Perhaps, I don't know, somebody has observed something up there." Wolverhampton's shot across the bows of bookmakers was welcomed by the Racecourse Association. Caroline Davies, the RCA's services director, was pleased that Roberts' letter raised concerns not only in respect of the track's legal requirements but also for punters betting on British horseracing. "We endorse the actions of Wolverhampton racecourse and believe it to be the correct action to take in terms of both the licencing requirements and in protecting the integrity of the SP," she said. |
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Foxy I think some will agree that there are some decent books out there, BUT the last few times I have been to Taunton, Chepstow, Cheltenham I just bet on my phone at the course or beforehand. It is only because you look across all the boards and all are generally flashing exactly the same prices, and when there is nobody taking a price they still get changed as it seems all are linked to this place.
Years ago you would search out a price for yourself and that was part of the buzz, getting into the ring and taking on the books etc. Now you hear some geezer behind the book on his laptop shouting to change a price when you are waiting to back it and they haven't even taken a bet on it. This may not be everyone but it seems to be the case whenever I go racing. |
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equine
as i said only a few were ever involved. |
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so metro john you want the race courses to foooked all the bookies of who pay them fortunes a year to bet and pay for numerous staff to enter the race course you want betfair to provide terminals {giving the likes of mr best and his like even more outlets }yet your not prepared to support either as you prefer to sit in a warm chair with a cup of tea.
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^^^ Offer something that is worth coming to the races for.
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in fact why dont you see if the greyhound association will move the greyhound derby to your local track ?
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cash
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2.96 ON HERE, 2/1 ON EVERY RACE COURSE I STAND NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE,STANDARD EWAY TERMS EVERY RACE WHICH BEATS ALL EXCHANGE PLACE MARKETS WHERE YOU CANT GET A TENNER ON,COME RACING!
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FACT,PUNTERS HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD AS THEY HAVE ON THE RACECOURSES I ATTEND FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS,THE ALTERNATIVES DONT EVEN COME CLOSE!
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You're dinosaurs, last of a dying breed, you have failed to face up to competition and deserve all you get. You are in a similar situation to what the pub game is/was now. The smoking ban, cheap supermarket booze, the pubs that have survived have had to adapt, put on entertainment, get Sky in, do food, make them family friendly. There's so much more vying for peoples money now than say 10-20 years ago. What do on course bookies do to get punters back that use to come to the races looking for a bet? Absolutely feck all.
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12 pubs/bars opened in hereford in 2016
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how are you factmachine ?
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THE BENT SP SYSTEM BEARS LITTLE OR NO RESEMBLNCE TO PRICES BEING OFFERED IN THE BETTING RING!
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OK FOXY BUT IT WILL BE ALONG WAY BACK!
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PLUS THESE LUNATICS THAT HAVE NEVER SET FOOT ON A RACECOURSE THAT POST ON HERE ARE SENDING MY BLOOD PRESSURE THROUGH THE ROOF
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hopefully not to long factmachine its always good fun to listen to the bol.ox you talk live
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WHAT LIKE WHY ARE YOU BETTING 1/5
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did you see chapman running around the betting ring on saturday at sandown ?
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