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Pretty close birkdale, Peter O'Sullivan said as they walked around the parade ring that Ginger had been awoken in the middle of the night by a man who told him his stables were on fire! I have found a reference to it from the Manchester Evening News but can't find an article about it!
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www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk › Sport › Other Sport › BBC
19 Sep 2011 - Aintree legend Ginger McCain, trainer of the great Red Rum, has died aged 80. ... Grand National three times, in 1973, 1974 and 1977, before winning ... hosted the winner's stable visit in the first year of our Grand National sponsorship. .... Fire crews were called to Paton Street to tackle the blaze aboard the ... |
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The same evening that he won his 3rd National in 1977, McCain paraded Red Rum INSIDE one of the big local hotels in Southport that was owned by one of his patrons. I was there, and remember seeing the horse in the dining room receiving a tremendous reception, and some people were offering him vegetables off their dinner plates which Red Rum was willingly accepting !
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A book I have on Red Rum , mentions the ballroom and says it was in the Bold Hotel.
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12 Fascinating facts
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/features/red-rum-great-horses-in-history-180553 |
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A book I have on Red Rum , mentions the ballroom and says it was in the Bold Hotel.
Yes, it was the Bold. Ginger used to tell a great story about one of the diners stood on a table in the restaurant cheering the horse wildly without realising he was stood in his own dinner ! |
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backers , or layers it lump on time 3.10
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No photo finish camera in use on the day Red Rum dead heated in April 1967, so it was the judge's call. John Lawrence (Oaksey) describes it in his book, as he had backed the other dead-heater, Curlicue, trainer by his father-in-law, Ginger Dennistoun. The latter used to buy cheap yearlings at the autumn sales, and train them to try to win early season low grade 2yo races, like the one at Aintree, and Curlicue had proved herself the quickest of his bunch in trials, so she was well backed at Aintree.
(Lester Piggott was riding at Newbury that day). Ginger Dennistoun features quite prominently in the story of Piggott's first ever winner, on The Chase. Ginger trained the second. Worth a read... http://theapprenticejockey.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/it-was-just-start-of-job-really-wasnt.html |
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Here's a link to the bit in John Lawrence's book where he describes the race between Red Rum and Curlicue. Not sure whether the link will work, but you can get to it yourself if you bung 'curlicue' and 'blue spider' into google...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3ujNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT164&dq=%22curlicue%22+%22blue+spider%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKzIOMk8nQAhWsKsAKHc3lBtMQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22curlicue%22%20%22blue%20spider%22&f=false |
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here's a link to the paper with the racecard in it...
https://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19670407&printsec=frontpage&hl=en The first race (Red Rum's) wasn't on TV. Coverage started with race 2, as there were some good NH races on, and the Liverpool Spring Cup on the flat. I remember watching the meeting on TV, and seeing a Red and a Blue in the first 3 in the results for the first race. It appealed to my childish mind. |
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The British Moror Racing Grand Prix used to be staged at Aintree back in the 50s and 60s, Sterling Moss won the first I believe. I have attended the horse race meeting many times but cannot recall seeing any sign of the motor track. Did they dig it up?
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There's still 1.5 miles of it in use, with a turn labelled 'Beechers'...
http://www.aintreemrc.co.uk/circuit.html |
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Wiki page with a bit of history...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aintree_Motor_Racing_Circuit |
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In 1967 - Aintree was known as LIVERPOOL
The was a diagonal 5 Furlong course - as previously described - and the Standard Time for 5 Furlongs was 1m 1secs The record time for 5 Furlongs was 59 and 2 fifths secs - set in July 1933 - and equaled in July 1962. The were also 6 Furlong races - which started at the same point as 5 Furlong races, but then ran along the outline of the present Mildmay Course, around a left-hand bend into the home straight. RED RUM made his debut in the Thursby Plate ( a 2yo Seller) over 5 Furlongs at 2:00pm on Friday April 7th. He DEAD-HEATED with Curlicue, 3 lengths in front of Blue Spider. RED RUM was ridden by PAUL COOK Trained by: Tom Molony at Wymondham, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Owned by: Maurice Kingsley SP: 5/1 (3rd fav) Time: 1m 4 and 4 fifths secs RED RUM ran a further 7 times as a 2YO - Winning on his 5th outing - a 7 Furlong Nursery at Warwick, under D W 'Derek' Morris carrying 7st 11 lb. D W Morris also rode him into 4th place on his final 2YO outing, in a 1 mile Nursery. Prior to that RED RUM was ridden by LESTER PIGGOTT on his 7th outing - in another 1 mile Furlong Nursery at Pontefract, carrying 8st 5lb RED RUM was also ridden by - Joe Sime - Eddie Larkin - George Cadwaladr - Graham Sexton*5 |
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Red Rum finished in the places every time he ran at Aintree.
In addition to his 5 x Grand National runs and the 2yo seller, he finished a short-head 2nd in a 1 mile handicap in March 1968 when ridden by Lester Piggott, and also 2nd in a 4yo hurdle in March 1969 when ridden by Paddy Broderick. |
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have we found out yet if there was a camera for the night nurse monksfield dead heat ?
on the subject of how liverpool/aintree has changed i remember been on the roof not sure if it was the thursday or the friday it was kildimo against dessie the 2 best chasing chasers at that time ,there could not have been more than 100 people up there now you would need special tickets as it is that crowded. |
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Yes - foxy - PHOTO
Watch and listen ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X2Ai77voXE |
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Doubt it would be a DH these days, bound to find a pixel or two between them!
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thanks onlooker for clarifying things.
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It is staggering to recollect how much in danger the race and the course were in the 1970's. The races themselves are as good as any sport you will ever see .
There appears to be little or no marketing expertise ,unlike today where the only danger is of racing collapsing to the so called animal charities and bleeding heart liberals on social media. Haven't head them asking for Cheltenham to be closed after Simomsig's fatality ......they appear to think racing only happens for 3 days in April. |