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Red Rum
I was at Aintree when RED RUM ran in a 5 F seller there ,
may have been an evening meeting ?
he either dead heated for first or third place and best I can remember may have been ridden by Lester Piggott or Paul Cook.....
( was just thinking about the henessy sure he ran in that ?)
Was any one else at that Aintree meeting ?
Or Trump this recollection with yours
Rgds to all
Peter P
I was at Aintree when RED RUM ran in a 5 F seller there ,
may have been an evening meeting ?
he either dead heated for first or third place and best I can remember may have been ridden by Lester Piggott or Paul Cook.....
( was just thinking about the henessy sure he ran in that ?)
Was any one else at that Aintree meeting ?
Or Trump this recollection with yours
Rgds to all
Peter P
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Hello Peter Perves (any badges?)
Red Rum 2nd to Red Candle 73'
Red Rum 2nd to Red Candle 73'
Red Rum's racecourse debut in that 5f seller was the first race meeting I attended back in April 1967. It was school holiday time and I remember I was taken to Aintree by my grandmother who was keen on racing as a bit of a treat. It was an afternoon card on a mixed meeting at that time.
The official result was that Red Rum had dead-heated, but incredibly there was no photo finish equipment installed at Aintree at that time (not even for the National)and many people thought that Red Rum had just put his nose in front right on the line.
The 5f course ran diagonally across the Mildmay course starting in the corner by the Anchor Bridge and finishing roughly where the present winning post is. There were no starting stalls used at Aintree, and the pull-up area on the 5f course was very short (and dangerous) with the runners eventually coming to a halt amongst spectators somewhere near where the new weighing room is situated today.
Red Rum ran once in the Hennessy (November 1973) and was beaten a short head by Red Candle who was receiving a stone from him.
The 1973/74 season was Red Rum's best because despite the narrow defeat in the Hennessy,he ran on 10 occasions, won 6, was runner up in 3, and the only blip came at Haydock when another horse crashed into the back of him at Haydock and the jockey was unseated. That season culminated in victories in both the National and Scottish Grand National just 3 weeks apart and carrying top weight on both occasions.
A remarkable horse trained just down the road from where I live that I had the privilege of watching many times.
The official result was that Red Rum had dead-heated, but incredibly there was no photo finish equipment installed at Aintree at that time (not even for the National)and many people thought that Red Rum had just put his nose in front right on the line.
The 5f course ran diagonally across the Mildmay course starting in the corner by the Anchor Bridge and finishing roughly where the present winning post is. There were no starting stalls used at Aintree, and the pull-up area on the 5f course was very short (and dangerous) with the runners eventually coming to a halt amongst spectators somewhere near where the new weighing room is situated today.
Red Rum ran once in the Hennessy (November 1973) and was beaten a short head by Red Candle who was receiving a stone from him.
The 1973/74 season was Red Rum's best because despite the narrow defeat in the Hennessy,he ran on 10 occasions, won 6, was runner up in 3, and the only blip came at Haydock when another horse crashed into the back of him at Haydock and the jockey was unseated. That season culminated in victories in both the National and Scottish Grand National just 3 weeks apart and carrying top weight on both occasions.
A remarkable horse trained just down the road from where I live that I had the privilege of watching many times.
Red Rum dead heated with Curlicue in his first race, as Guinness says was 2nd to Red Candle in 73 Hennessey, race is on YouTube as are most of the Hennesseys.
Thnx Birkdale....
A most informative answer indeed
and sad to say I was 19 then ......but I remember it quite well
and although I have been to many UK race meetings since , in fact i have never been back to Aintree , how about you ?
( what a horse Red Rum must have been ! )
All the very best to you
A most informative answer indeed
and sad to say I was 19 then ......but I remember it quite well
and although I have been to many UK race meetings since , in fact i have never been back to Aintree , how about you ?
( what a horse Red Rum must have been ! )
All the very best to you
Clover Bud
Aintree is my local course and I go to virtually every meeting. I've seen every Grand National since 1972.
The Aintree of today is a vastly different place to the Aintree of 1967, and if you return you would hardly recognise the place. Where the old paddock used to be there is now a statue of Red Rum, and overlooking the new paddock there is a statue of Ginger McCain.
Red Rum was buried beside the winning post at Aintree, and his grave is a feature that many racegoers visit.
Flat racing was, of course, discontinued in the 1970's, but if you look carefully you can still make out the outline of the old 5f course across the centre of the Mildmay, but I've always doubted whether it was actually the full 5f - looks a bit short to me !
It would be well worth a return visit. The National meeting is superbly well organised with a brilliant atmosphere and excellent facilities, but leave the car at home and go by train as Aintree station is literally just across the road.
Aintree is my local course and I go to virtually every meeting. I've seen every Grand National since 1972.
The Aintree of today is a vastly different place to the Aintree of 1967, and if you return you would hardly recognise the place. Where the old paddock used to be there is now a statue of Red Rum, and overlooking the new paddock there is a statue of Ginger McCain.
Red Rum was buried beside the winning post at Aintree, and his grave is a feature that many racegoers visit.
Flat racing was, of course, discontinued in the 1970's, but if you look carefully you can still make out the outline of the old 5f course across the centre of the Mildmay, but I've always doubted whether it was actually the full 5f - looks a bit short to me !
It would be well worth a return visit. The National meeting is superbly well organised with a brilliant atmosphere and excellent facilities, but leave the car at home and go by train as Aintree station is literally just across the road.
clover bud
as birkdale has already pointed out the national meeting and the racecourse is nothing like the way it was, all in all it is at least the equal of the cheltenham festival and is well worth a visit each of the 3 days are different but all very very good.
as birkdale has already pointed out the national meeting and the racecourse is nothing like the way it was, all in all it is at least the equal of the cheltenham festival and is well worth a visit each of the 3 days are different but all very very good.
Red rum ran a dead heat as a 2 year old... sprinting.
..went on to win 3 grand nationals 4 miles plus
..went on to win 3 grand nationals 4 miles plus
Great post birkdale.
Whilst I weLL remember the first time starting stalls were introduced it's an eye opener to be informed there wasn't a photo finish camera in 1967. I'd have thought they were everywhere by then apart perhaps Cartmel.
Whilst I weLL remember the first time starting stalls were introduced it's an eye opener to be informed there wasn't a photo finish camera in 1967. I'd have thought they were everywhere by then apart perhaps Cartmel.
when monksfield and night nurse dead heated at liverpool was there a photo finish then anybody ?
I'm confident there was foxy.I remember watching the race on tv and waiting for the result of the photo.
I never saw Red Rum in the flesh but have been racing for a long time. My first visit to Cheltenham was about 60 years ago and I remember Lochroe was one of the winners. I attended my first point to point at Didmarton in 1945 aged 11 months! (and didn't miss a meeting there until 1967 when I was in USA).
I enjoyed reading this post and the replies. Great memories! I absolutely love Aintree. Without a doubt my favourite track, and meeting! Superbly organised.
Think the last flat meeting may have been in '75 and the fields on that occasion were pretty thin. Good point re the dead heat for the Night Nurse/Monksfield race in 1977 Foxy as it is possible they didn't have photo finish at that time. The National in '72 had a dead heat called for 3rd place because there wasn't a photo and there was probably a head between the pair involved.
I was at Aintree 02/04/77 when Rummy won his third Grand National. When he crossed that winning line, the atmosphere was electric. I have never experienced anything close so God only knows how Tommy Stack felt.
This was the same day Night Nurse gave Monksfield weight, five pounds I believe, and dead heated in the Templegate Hurdle. Skymas won the two mile chase.
As regards the Hennessy, I recall one of Rummy's adversaries was called Red Candle and I do believe he won Newbury's big race one year when Rummy partook. Another contempory was Barona who won the Scottish National and then there was Scout, he went off favourite at Aintree in 1978 when Rummy was withdrawn only to fall.
This was the same day Night Nurse gave Monksfield weight, five pounds I believe, and dead heated in the Templegate Hurdle. Skymas won the two mile chase.
As regards the Hennessy, I recall one of Rummy's adversaries was called Red Candle and I do believe he won Newbury's big race one year when Rummy partook. Another contempory was Barona who won the Scottish National and then there was Scout, he went off favourite at Aintree in 1978 when Rummy was withdrawn only to fall.
Jamilla14, pretty sure Scout was sent off favourite in 1974 when Red Run won his 2nd race. If memory serves Scout was an Arthur Stephenson chaser who was a huge punt on the day but his stamina gave out.
I've tried to find confirmation (without success) of there being a photo finish camera at Aintree in 1977. Was interested to read that it wasn't until 1983 that all courses had cameras.
Clover Bud - I will take you down memory lane.
Magnet Gold Cup Day at York July 1974.
Still at school, bookmaker Peter Phelps was a clerk short and I was thrown in at the deep end. On arriving, the bookmaker standing for PP was called David Robinson. He explained to me how he liked to keep a runner 'for himself' in the big race on the card, and being without any view, asked me what I fancied. 'Take A Reef' came back the reply.
After a very long day, my wages were topped up with a sweetener, for picking the winner, I had never had so much money.
Later that year I filled in one autumn day at Carlisle jumps. The first hurdle race of the the day was won by Lucius who as we know...
Magnet Gold Cup Day at York July 1974.
Still at school, bookmaker Peter Phelps was a clerk short and I was thrown in at the deep end. On arriving, the bookmaker standing for PP was called David Robinson. He explained to me how he liked to keep a runner 'for himself' in the big race on the card, and being without any view, asked me what I fancied. 'Take A Reef' came back the reply.
After a very long day, my wages were topped up with a sweetener, for picking the winner, I had never had so much money.
Later that year I filled in one autumn day at Carlisle jumps. The first hurdle race of the the day was won by Lucius who as we know...
forgotmyusername - yes you are correct. Memory fades with time. Am now trying to remember what went off fav in 1978.
Another contempory was Barona who won the Scottish National
Barona won the Scottish National twice in 75 and 76, in 75 in the GN at Aintree his jockey Paul Kelleway was actually pulled off his horse by a high flying Andy Turnell at Bechers as he was catapulted from his mount, Barona also came 4th in the GN before winning at Ayr in 76! Incidentally the Scottish version was run just 7 days after the GN in those days!
Barona won the Scottish National twice in 75 and 76, in 75 in the GN at Aintree his jockey Paul Kelleway was actually pulled off his horse by a high flying Andy Turnell at Bechers as he was catapulted from his mount, Barona also came 4th in the GN before winning at Ayr in 76! Incidentally the Scottish version was run just 7 days after the GN in those days!
foxy - just watching the race on YouTube. Says that Rag Trade was ridden by Jonjo O'Neill, same as Alverton the following year, and both had the misfortune to be put down.
Jonjo had some bad luck in the race. Pretty sure he never completed in the National itself. Remember Tied Cottage going from the front in '78 but Tommy Carberry tried to take Bechers at an angle and coming down. And please don't get me started on his Gold Cup ride on that horse the following year!
stewarts rise - that is correct. A mere week between these two Nationals. The likes of Red Rum and Barona must have beenvery hardy individuals. Trainers today wouldn't even contemplate taking these two races in with such a short interval.
Do you remember the year Ruby Walsh came agonisingly close to winning all four Nationals, being denied at Ayr by a 33/1 chance I believe, in a photo. Was it ridden by Jo Colliver ? Was Hedgehunter one of the winners ?
Do you remember the year Ruby Walsh came agonisingly close to winning all four Nationals, being denied at Ayr by a 33/1 chance I believe, in a photo. Was it ridden by Jo Colliver ? Was Hedgehunter one of the winners ?
Jamilla14, think it was Run For Paddy and Carl Llewellyn who denied Ruby in 2006
forgot - reading wiki. Seems it was 2005 and the horse was called Joe's Edge ridden by Keith Mercer. Numbersixvalverde was the Irish winner along with Silver Birch (Welsh) and Hedgehunter. Ah yes,I remember it well...
forgor - my memory was telling me Jo Colliver not Joe's Edge. Yours was a year out with Numbersixvalverde winning two versions.
Am I right in thinking Jo Colliver won a Scottish Nationalmore recently ?
Back to wiki...what would we do ?
Am I right in thinking Jo Colliver won a Scottish Nationalmore recently ?
Back to wiki...what would we do ?
I rode the 5f course on a bicycle in the 70s.It was a hot summer's day,going was firm,plenty of lush grass.The 5f course was most unusual the way it ran diagonally through the middle of the main track.
Just watched a rerun of 73 GN and a few interesting facts popped up which time tends to have forgotten.
13 horses actually carried O/W, nearly a 1/3rd of the field.
Jonjo had his 1st ride as a 20 yo on Red Rums stable companion Glenkiln also owned by Noel Le Mare.
Most people believe that Crisp led all the way in that national before being collared on the line by Red Rum but he actually didn't lead until after Bechers the 6th fence where leader Grey Sombrero made a mistake, later fatally injured at the chair.
Can anyone actually remember what occurred the night before the National to do with Red Rum and Ginger McCain?
13 horses actually carried O/W, nearly a 1/3rd of the field.
Jonjo had his 1st ride as a 20 yo on Red Rums stable companion Glenkiln also owned by Noel Le Mare.
Most people believe that Crisp led all the way in that national before being collared on the line by Red Rum but he actually didn't lead until after Bechers the 6th fence where leader Grey Sombrero made a mistake, later fatally injured at the chair.
Can anyone actually remember what occurred the night before the National to do with Red Rum and Ginger McCain?
They actually had a book about Red Rum published before he won his 3rd National. I was reading at the time and put it down to watch the race and still never even backed it that day!
Jamilla14, you are correct it couldn't have been Run For Paddy. Joe Colliver hasn't won the race but Charlie Huxley was a lesser known jockey to have won as was the now flat jockey P J McDonald. Stewarts Rise, re your question, no idea what happened the night before but Glenkiln had won a race over the National fences the previous October when ridden by Jimmy Bourke that was something of a one off until revived many years later.
Flat racing under rules at Aintree was discontinued after the 1976 Grand National meeting. The meeting was traditionally "mixed", but by 1976 the flat racing was restricted to just 4 races all held on the Thursday and accompanied by the Topham and the Foxhunters to make up a 6 race card. The Friday and Saturday of the meeting had been converted to exclusively NH.
The final flat race was the Knowsley Stakes over 1m5f and was won by Brian Taylor. The winning distance was a head, so photo finish equipment had possibly been installed by this time. The first race on the card was a 5f sprint across the centre of the Mildmay course, and Willie Carson and Pat Eddery amongst others rode in it.
The final flat race was the Knowsley Stakes over 1m5f and was won by Brian Taylor. The winning distance was a head, so photo finish equipment had possibly been installed by this time. The first race on the card was a 5f sprint across the centre of the Mildmay course, and Willie Carson and Pat Eddery amongst others rode in it.
13 horses actually carried O/W, nearly a 1/3rd of the field.
That's on top of the 1 1/2 stones that many would have been out of the h'cap proper!
No wonder so many GNs had the same classier horses winning and placing in the race.
Forgetmyusername, i'll leave the answer open for a while to give others a chance to remember.
Can anyone actually remember what occurred the night before the National to do with Red Rum and Ginger McCain?
That's on top of the 1 1/2 stones that many would have been out of the h'cap proper!
No wonder so many GNs had the same classier horses winning and placing in the race.
Forgetmyusername, i'll leave the answer open for a while to give others a chance to remember.
Can anyone actually remember what occurred the night before the National to do with Red Rum and Ginger McCain?
Can anyone actually remember what occurred the night before the National to do with Red Rum and Ginger McCain?
McCain was still training behind his used car garage at that time. Did I read somewhere that both he and the horses had been disturbed in the middle of the night by burglars ?
McCain was still training behind his used car garage at that time. Did I read somewhere that both he and the horses had been disturbed in the middle of the night by burglars ?
Pretty close birkdale, Peter O'Sullivan said as they walked around the parade ring that Ginger had been awoken in the middle of the night by a man who told him his stables were on fire! I have found a reference to it from the Manchester Evening News but can't find an article about it!
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk › Sport › Other Sport › BBC
19 Sep 2011 - Aintree legend Ginger McCain, trainer of the great Red Rum, has died aged 80. ... Grand National three times, in 1973, 1974 and 1977, before winning ... hosted the winner's stable visit in the first year of our Grand National sponsorship. .... Fire crews were called to Paton Street to tackle the blaze aboard the ...
19 Sep 2011 - Aintree legend Ginger McCain, trainer of the great Red Rum, has died aged 80. ... Grand National three times, in 1973, 1974 and 1977, before winning ... hosted the winner's stable visit in the first year of our Grand National sponsorship. .... Fire crews were called to Paton Street to tackle the blaze aboard the ...
The same evening that he won his 3rd National in 1977, McCain paraded Red Rum INSIDE one of the big local hotels in Southport that was owned by one of his patrons. I was there, and remember seeing the horse in the dining room receiving a tremendous reception, and some people were offering him vegetables off their dinner plates which Red Rum was willingly accepting !
A book I have on Red Rum , mentions the ballroom and says it was in the Bold Hotel.
12 Fascinating facts
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/features/red-rum-great-horses-in-history-180553
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/features/red-rum-great-horses-in-history-180553
A book I have on Red Rum , mentions the ballroom and says it was in the Bold Hotel.
Yes, it was the Bold. Ginger used to tell a great story about one of the diners stood on a table in the restaurant cheering the horse wildly without realising he was stood in his own dinner !
Yes, it was the Bold. Ginger used to tell a great story about one of the diners stood on a table in the restaurant cheering the horse wildly without realising he was stood in his own dinner !
No photo finish camera in use on the day Red Rum dead heated in April 1967, so it was the judge's call. John Lawrence (Oaksey) describes it in his book, as he had backed the other dead-heater, Curlicue, trainer by his father-in-law, Ginger Dennistoun. The latter used to buy cheap yearlings at the autumn sales, and train them to try to win early season low grade 2yo races, like the one at Aintree, and Curlicue had proved herself the quickest of his bunch in trials, so she was well backed at Aintree.
(Lester Piggott was riding at Newbury that day).
Ginger Dennistoun features quite prominently in the story of Piggott's first ever winner, on The Chase. Ginger trained the second. Worth a read...
http://theapprenticejockey.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/it-was-just-start-of-job-really-wasnt.html
(Lester Piggott was riding at Newbury that day).
Ginger Dennistoun features quite prominently in the story of Piggott's first ever winner, on The Chase. Ginger trained the second. Worth a read...
http://theapprenticejockey.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/it-was-just-start-of-job-really-wasnt.html
Here's a link to the bit in John Lawrence's book where he describes the race between Red Rum and Curlicue. Not sure whether the link will work, but you can get to it yourself if you bung 'curlicue' and 'blue spider' into google...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3ujNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT164&dq=%22curlicue%22+%22blue+spider%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKzIOMk8nQAhWsKsAKHc3lBtMQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22curlicue%22%20%22blue%20spider%22&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3ujNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT164&dq=%22curlicue%22+%22blue+spider%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiKzIOMk8nQAhWsKsAKHc3lBtMQ6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=%22curlicue%22%20%22blue%20spider%22&f=false
here's a link to the paper with the racecard in it...
https://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19670407&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
The first race (Red Rum's) wasn't on TV. Coverage started with race 2, as there were some good NH races on, and the Liverpool Spring Cup on the flat. I remember watching the meeting on TV, and seeing a Red and a Blue in the first 3 in the results for the first race. It appealed to my childish mind.
https://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19670407&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
The first race (Red Rum's) wasn't on TV. Coverage started with race 2, as there were some good NH races on, and the Liverpool Spring Cup on the flat. I remember watching the meeting on TV, and seeing a Red and a Blue in the first 3 in the results for the first race. It appealed to my childish mind.
The British Moror Racing Grand Prix used to be staged at Aintree back in the 50s and 60s, Sterling Moss won the first I believe. I have attended the horse race meeting many times but cannot recall seeing any sign of the motor track. Did they dig it up?
There's still 1.5 miles of it in use, with a turn labelled 'Beechers'...
http://www.aintreemrc.co.uk/circuit.html
http://www.aintreemrc.co.uk/circuit.html
Wiki page with a bit of history...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aintree_Motor_Racing_Circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aintree_Motor_Racing_Circuit
In 1967 - Aintree was known as LIVERPOOL
The was a diagonal 5 Furlong course - as previously described - and the Standard Time for 5 Furlongs was 1m 1secs
The record time for 5 Furlongs was 59 and 2 fifths secs - set in July 1933 - and equaled in July 1962.
The were also 6 Furlong races - which started at the same point as 5 Furlong races, but then ran along the outline of the present Mildmay Course, around a left-hand bend into the home straight.
RED RUM made his debut in the Thursby Plate ( a 2yo Seller) over 5 Furlongs at 2:00pm on Friday April 7th.
He DEAD-HEATED with Curlicue, 3 lengths in front of Blue Spider.
RED RUM was ridden by PAUL COOK
Trained by: Tom Molony at Wymondham, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
Owned by: Maurice Kingsley
SP: 5/1 (3rd fav)
Time: 1m 4 and 4 fifths secs
RED RUM ran a further 7 times as a 2YO - Winning on his 5th outing - a 7 Furlong Nursery at Warwick, under D W 'Derek' Morris carrying 7st 11 lb.
D W Morris also rode him into 4th place on his final 2YO outing, in a 1 mile Nursery.
Prior to that RED RUM was ridden by LESTER PIGGOTT on his 7th outing - in another 1 mile Furlong Nursery at Pontefract, carrying 8st 5lb
RED RUM was also ridden by - Joe Sime - Eddie Larkin - George Cadwaladr - Graham Sexton*5
The was a diagonal 5 Furlong course - as previously described - and the Standard Time for 5 Furlongs was 1m 1secs
The record time for 5 Furlongs was 59 and 2 fifths secs - set in July 1933 - and equaled in July 1962.
The were also 6 Furlong races - which started at the same point as 5 Furlong races, but then ran along the outline of the present Mildmay Course, around a left-hand bend into the home straight.
RED RUM made his debut in the Thursby Plate ( a 2yo Seller) over 5 Furlongs at 2:00pm on Friday April 7th.
He DEAD-HEATED with Curlicue, 3 lengths in front of Blue Spider.
RED RUM was ridden by PAUL COOK
Trained by: Tom Molony at Wymondham, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
Owned by: Maurice Kingsley
SP: 5/1 (3rd fav)
Time: 1m 4 and 4 fifths secs
RED RUM ran a further 7 times as a 2YO - Winning on his 5th outing - a 7 Furlong Nursery at Warwick, under D W 'Derek' Morris carrying 7st 11 lb.
D W Morris also rode him into 4th place on his final 2YO outing, in a 1 mile Nursery.
Prior to that RED RUM was ridden by LESTER PIGGOTT on his 7th outing - in another 1 mile Furlong Nursery at Pontefract, carrying 8st 5lb
RED RUM was also ridden by - Joe Sime - Eddie Larkin - George Cadwaladr - Graham Sexton*5
Red Rum finished in the places every time he ran at Aintree.
In addition to his 5 x Grand National runs and the 2yo seller, he finished a short-head 2nd in a 1 mile handicap in March 1968 when ridden by Lester Piggott, and also 2nd in a 4yo hurdle in March 1969 when ridden by Paddy Broderick.
In addition to his 5 x Grand National runs and the 2yo seller, he finished a short-head 2nd in a 1 mile handicap in March 1968 when ridden by Lester Piggott, and also 2nd in a 4yo hurdle in March 1969 when ridden by Paddy Broderick.
have we found out yet if there was a camera for the night nurse monksfield dead heat ?
on the subject of how liverpool/aintree has changed i remember been on the roof not sure if it was the thursday or the friday it was kildimo against dessie the 2 best chasing chasers at that time ,there could not have been more than 100 people up there now you would need special tickets as it is that crowded.
on the subject of how liverpool/aintree has changed i remember been on the roof not sure if it was the thursday or the friday it was kildimo against dessie the 2 best chasing chasers at that time ,there could not have been more than 100 people up there now you would need special tickets as it is that crowded.
Yes - foxy - PHOTO
Watch and listen ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X2Ai77voXE
Watch and listen ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X2Ai77voXE
Doubt it would be a DH these days, bound to find a pixel or two between them!
It is staggering to recollect how much in danger the race and the course were in the 1970's. The races themselves are as good as any sport you will ever see .
There appears to be little or no marketing expertise ,unlike today where the only danger is of racing collapsing to the so called animal charities and bleeding heart liberals on social media.
Haven't head them asking for Cheltenham to be closed after Simomsig's fatality ......they appear to think racing only happens for 3 days in April.
There appears to be little or no marketing expertise ,unlike today where the only danger is of racing collapsing to the so called animal charities and bleeding heart liberals on social media.
Haven't head them asking for Cheltenham to be closed after Simomsig's fatality ......they appear to think racing only happens for 3 days in April.
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