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olderthebetter
23 Nov 16 13:16
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Me and a mate have been trying to get into speed angles on the AW tracks over  the past couple of weeks sourcing several guides. Tbh at the minute it's proving quite fruitfully however there's a couple of questions we have and was wondering if any members on here could shed any light.

Some of guides we are using have a speed figure in a bracket '()', what does this represent as opposed to a number not in one. It's clearly not taken as the horses best number as several times his best figure comes up lower than the number in brackets. Also for what reason would a horse not have anything against his speed figure for a certain race, would it be simply the guide we're using hasn't assessed that certain race?

Any help would be grateful.
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Report metro john November 23, 2016 1:41 PM GMT
Who do you subscribe to?
Report Greg_Gory November 23, 2016 1:50 PM GMT
PR Ratings
The best i've seen and you can build your own systems with it.The owner is always adding new features to it aswell.
Best i've seen anyway Wink

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Report metro john November 23, 2016 1:51 PM GMT
For education purposes you may like to investigate this - https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/rowley/the-timeform-knowledge-sectional-analysis-872015


Also Timeforms speed figures are more accurate than most! (check them out.
Report olderthebetter November 23, 2016 1:51 PM GMT
Not subscribed to any at the minute mate, using a couple of freebies like I say early days so trying to get a feel for it before committing fully. As an example Laurence Taylor who does them for atr you get a snippet of races (top 4 best rated), and you get there last 6 runs but some have numbers in brackets like I've mentioned in OP, was just wondering why he'd do this as opposed to without brackets.
Report Greg_Gory November 23, 2016 1:53 PM GMT
also others share their systems in the dropdown menu
I dont lie.Worth every penny.

Saves hours of studying,looking through the post and other sites etc
Report flatcap November 23, 2016 1:55 PM GMT
Brackets on LT ratings usually mean figure clocked on a different surface.
EG Zumurudee last time (72) that's because it was achieved on turf not AW

Hope this helps.
Report metro john November 23, 2016 1:56 PM GMT

Nov 23, 2016 -- 1:51PM, olderthebetter wrote:


Not subscribed to any at the minute mate, using a couple of freebies like I say early days so trying to get a feel for it before committing fully. As an example Laurence Taylor who does them for atr you get a snippet of races (top 4 best rated), and you get there last 6 runs but some have numbers in brackets like I've mentioned in OP, was just wondering why he'd do this as opposed to without brackets.


My advice is while learning watch and read the American racing and form charts(free if you look) this will give you a feel for sectionals and get you watching the races closer, the race moves and positions etc. you do not have to bet to learn, power can only be used to optimum in stages some horses are more flexible with tactic ,many improve for different tactic.

Report olderthebetter November 23, 2016 2:02 PM GMT
Thanks for your replies really helped.
Report metro john November 23, 2016 2:03 PM GMT
Final speed figures on their own are common property(not much value in prices) spotting the unlucky, poorly drawn and those given too much to do, or used too early can lead to value?
Report zipper November 23, 2016 2:09 PM GMT
the best speed ratings are the greyhonds  when you clock em yourself..why when them traps open them 6 dogs run as fast has they can
horse its all about  tactics  not speed.. re handicaps it how far they won re their next mark....  not the clock
Report olderthebetter November 23, 2016 2:14 PM GMT
Yes that's what I'm doing at the minute John getting the ones with big numbers at some point in the last 12 months, then watching the races closely. I'm ignoring anything other than AW racing atm and touch wood things are working out.

Cheers Zipper I know where your coming from in regards the dogs, it's not for me though mate love the horses.
Report treetop November 23, 2016 9:04 PM GMT
You might find that speed ratings also work better on Southwell where horses run hell for leather to get a position to avoid the kickback rather than Lingfield where they are often run at a dawdle before a 2f dash from the last bend.
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