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Social Media 3-1 out to about tens.
Social Media 3-1 out to about tens.
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Lol.
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I need more data but since 2012 at least there seems a large disparity with the largest scale of drifter in the late market with flat racing and nh racing (opening show---returned sp).
Horses that have at least doubled in price in this late market have returned 78% more winners than would be expected at BFSP on the flat there have only been about 67% of expected winners. The NH figures are not skewed in any way by prices (the excess occurred in different price groups) but the samples are only currently just over 400 runners for flat and jumps in this period. |
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*Horses that have at least doubled in price in this late market have returned 78% more winners than would be expected at BFSP (in NH racing)
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striding, are you running queries on your own database or proform or something like that ?
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For me, this horse was not going to win today - Lee had options down the long home straight but preferred not to take them - running in behind horses ....
On the other hand, there are examples of drifters from this stable winning - a recent one was Michael's Mount at Catterick - he was a big drifter prior to the off. |
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"yesterday" for goodness sake - some might say I do not know what day it is!!!!!!
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O'Regan there at Chepstow. I know the horse didn't jump well but neither did the other market leaders but there's no chance he was trying to win on Paddys Motorbike there is there?
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One big drifter in a race where only four had a chance and look at the state of that from Hughes. Again no bet here but Golden Town was VERY weak in the markt and has been given a laughable ride.
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Some drifters are undoubtedly going to be dodgy and at some point they will affect all of our punting. I just don't think on balance the level of paranoia in general on this forum regarding the market is justified, for all the big drifters that run stinkers there are big drifters that will win/run well often enough to suggest it's not anywhere near as rancid as some would have you believe.
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I didn't have a bet in the race and had no vested interest in the result. But that looked awful.
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cheers striding
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i totally agree striding but i think we are in the minority
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Regardless of whether the majority of drifters are innocent or not, I would defy anyone to watch the ride on Golden Town or Paddys Motorbike and give the honest opinion that the riders have tried their best to win.
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Money back today lads, with interest.
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8.45 Wolverhampton tonight.
Are we switched on? |
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Sorry bidders, did not see your post.
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Longer trip fine, opposition not up to much and Morris likely to be far more proactive than GLee.
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Well done to those who kept the faith.
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lol
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some ride that
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very good
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Luke Morris wanted that alright!
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Compare that to the sack of sh!t Lee fannying about
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kitchen sink job
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Add Lorelei to your list that racecourse gallop will bring the horse on a ton
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Ta muchos.out and about.done me a right favour
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Think that Barton Bank has been totally vidicated in his observations, well done.
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GEORGE.B
01 Nov 16 22:45 I've just seen the race, it looks like they've crawled round as suggested by the slow time (16 secs outside standard), and as a result he's not had the clearest of runs up the straight as horses weren't stopping and the gaps weren't appearing. She's going on at the finish and showed enough to suggest she will be winning off a similar mark when things pan out more favourably. In conclusion, I'd say the way the race was run was the problem rather than anything dodgy, in my humble opinion. ^ I'd stand by that. Whatever, all about opinions, and well done anyone who collected this evening. |
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In conclusion, I'd say the way the race was run was the problem rather than anything dodgy, in my humble opinion.
and the drift from 3>>10 nothing untoward iyo? |
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roida, I gave my honest opinion having watched the race without any bias or having had any financial interest, and for me, she was never getting a clear shot at it up the straight and that was shown on the head-on too.
As for the drift, all I can say is I couldn't accuse them on what I saw. I won't give the clichéd response of: does drifters never win? |
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Your honest opinion George B as anyone can see isnt worth a hill of beans, and taht can be applied to striding edge also.
Why feel the need to give an opinion when you havent an iota about the subject. |
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rarely if ever do horses drift from 3-10 unless someone knows something.
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I'll take that as a compliment coming from someone who has posted more than his fair share of shyte on this forum.
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Fair enough roida, I was focusing solely on what happened in the race.
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Well if you were focusing solely on what happened in the race, why feel the need to offer an opinion on something without reference to a very important part of the jigsaw.
You were disagreeing like that other yoke ima mazed does, for the sake of it. Thats it in a nutshell. It was clear as day what happened , and anyone who disagreed is not worth engaging with , because either they were being argumentative or hadnt an iota. Couldnt be simpler. |
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Comparing me to ima_amazing, lmfao, I've lost count of the number of times me and him have had a 'Geoffrey Wheeler' on here.
ok mincer, I'll spell it out to you. They've crawled round (visual impression and time of race very slow), it's Redcar, horses tend to keep rolling along there , and because they've gone no gallop, the gaps aren't appearing and he's trying to close on horses that aren't stopping. I'm no apologist for Lee, but that was my reading of it, in my humble opinion! As for the drift, yeah fair enough, but striding argued a case against that! |
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I have read the thread in full and i must apologise to you because although you are wrong and have been man enough to come on and say so , you were no where near as vociferous and even dare i say nauseating as striding edge. The stuff he wrote on here with percentages and all this garbage was the biggest load of crrap ive ever seen.
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At no point on this thread have I said I was wrong, only that it is a considered opinion having watched the race in full and without any bias.
As for striding, a good egg imo, it's not his fault you're too thick to understand the evidence regarding 'drifters' that he presented to you! |
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she was hardly a gamble and only just fell in off a mark of 53 tonight. so although the OP quite rightly should get the plaudits for finding a future winner, it doesnt look to me the plan was to lay her out for this race to land a gamble after taking it easy last time. i didnt think she was very good at the time and i still think the same, if she wins off a penalty or a revised mark, i will be the first to come on and say im wrong.
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