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How on earth could they choose Hayley Turner over Leonna Mayor ?? Are they blind and deaf?
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Brough Scott should've got the gig before all of this lot
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I think we've just got to accept that the line up isn't decided based on its appeal to genuine racing enthusiasts. As has been said above both Kevin Blake and Gary O'Brien would be excellent. Kevin is a breath of fresh air in his well though out and inforative pieces and Gary is very good in the paddock asking clear questions which show his depth of knowledge of the subject matter. I also like Matt Chapman and regardless of what others think he does bring a passion of the sport to the table. God knows what the likes of Alistar Down, Paul Haigh etc make of the line up. Like I say ITV aren't targetting fans of the sport and obviously aren't looking to produce an informative programme. AP McCoy and Haley Turner add nothing and probably know less about the form book than most of the people on here. I've always said I'd rather be trapped in a lift with someone I disgree with than someone who's totally banal. So even involving Mark Johnson (the trainer) in some capacity would be better than the grey dross that the usuall suspects trot out. Also I do like Ruby Walsh, again I might often disagree with him but at least he has an opinion and speaks with a breadth of experience. He also has a good knowledge of the form book which I'd say McCoy and Turner don't.
All the reasons highlighted above are why I stopped reading the Racing Post years ago. Is it too much to ask for a knowledgeable well informed team which provides critical insight? |
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The glaring ommision is Lydia Hyslop.
What does she need to do to get a gig like that. |
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Lydia is the antithesis of ITV as is Willoughby. ITV go with Sam Goldwyn " Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the audience "
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LH had her chance with both terrestrial channels and it didnt work, her ego is her downfall imo, itv dont need someone acting like a traffic conductor in front of the camera in the paddock and anyone who saw her cringeworthy interview with pembleton at cheltenham will know precisely why shes not been recruited
i was impressed with francesca cumanis recent interview in the RP and i think she is a much better option |
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rider,totally agree about LH,a big ego.
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persad there only to make it good for ethnic minorities the man is an idiot
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joe l...............kevin blake was on the sunday forum and as usual was excellent
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persad there only to make it good for ethnic minorities the man is an idiot
Persad is generally thought to have had a good Olympics. On racing, Rishi does an excellent job of getting the best from the experts but tbh I have no interest in Rishi's own opinion on anything whatsoever. |
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cant understand peoples hatred of rishi............very likeable and doesn't take himself too serious
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off course it might be the colour of his skin
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All the best multi sport anchors ( Coleman and the like) took trouble to familiarise themselves with the sport in question. Rishi however bluffs, fluffs and giggles his way through cringeworthy interview ad nauseum.
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Hayley will tip way more winners than the others, it should just be her and Francesca, no one else
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Unbiased & rider spot-on about LH. Queen Bee.
Turner will be kissing Luke Harvey on his bald head for the next ATR ad, mustn't be able to believe her luck. Her and Mick Kinane should go bowling together. Mottyballs.....must feel like he's going on a date with Raquel Welsh.... Persad not the sharpest tool in the shed..... |
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Joe Lampton 28 Aug 16 13:53 Joined: 23 Mar 05 | Topic/replies: 108 | Blogger: Joe Lampton's blog
I think we've just got to accept that the line up isn't decided based on its appeal to genuine racing enthusiasts. _______________________ Well, it bloody well ought to be, because genuine racing enthusiasts are going to be the only people watching it on ITV4. Bored and gormless couch potatoes aren't going to find it. And if they do, then Rishi Persad asking a succession of short-arsed Irishmen how they feel isn't going to make them stay there. |
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Isn't the problem that there aren't actually all that many of us genuine racing enthusiasts? Maybe for things like Cheltenham the big crowds are largely there for the racing, but most of the big flat meet crowds are there for the day out. Sad, but true. I'm not convinced by the line up so far but the programme would sink without a trace if it just preached to the converted, it needs to gain wider appeal and ultimately it needs to get people betting on horses rather than football accumulators.
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If this is the best offering on terrestrial tv ,then I will watch and pass judgement after a couple of programmes.
Hayley is a nice girl but TV is not her forte Richi is competent but appears to be completing the Diverse and Inclusive policy Olly to greasy for me. Lee not sure Sally Anne knows her horses Ed will hold it all together |
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MTC talks about getting people to bet on horses; that revolution must come from the bookies as the obsession they have with restricting bets is killing the game; their publicity needs to offer the possibility of people being allowed to win & not looking to avoid big bets per se - perhaps if the new ITV team are genuine in their attempts to encourage folk to watch they can help to publicise the inequities that currently exist - I won't hold my breath as I would imagine the majority of their commercials will still be promoting bookmaker products
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Wait and see,for the National or the Derby etc it will be Ant and Dec or whoever is flavour of the? day at the time, its all about entertainment and drawing in the customers, who wants to listen to boring old basturds tipping losers
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Hayley useless, as for Mottershead might as well have gone for Birchy.
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Tanya went for a interview.......she got the impression she was too old............didn't see her sticking up for bigmac
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wonder if jimbo and fitzy went for a interview
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theres no jimbo McGrath type analyst \pundit in that list........so I expect theres more to be named....except the OP ive not seen mottershead in any other paper saying he has got the gig
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I just want a programme that is 100% horse based, contributions from connections and racegoers and knowledgeable and pleasant presenters - in that order. But, please no in-depth betting as I'm sure those with this inclination will already know how to access the appropriate channels/entities for info.
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: 07 Dec 03 | Topic/replies: 3,963 | Blogger: portmanpark's blog
theres no jimbo McGrath type analyst \pundit in that list........ I hope ITV have decided not to go down the "analyst" route which would be an excellent idea, particularly if they want to appeal to newcomers. There are specialist subscription channels if you must have "analysis" which I find particularly boring and may have gone some way to killing off CH4. |
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still don't get the whole "i never used to watch the horses but now Ed Chamberlains presenting it on itv I'm absolutely hooked, pass me my wallet i'm going to have £100 on the next favourite" idea.
much more likely, oh they've moved the racing from ch4 to itv ..... what else is on |
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I would concur with the above.
If you are desperate for analysis you have two other channels and I would suspect most people who watch those channels can do some analysis themselves. At least you would hope so. Too me there isn't much more boring than McGrath, Cunningham or assorted Timeform bods sitting in a studio wittering away. Unless something astounding has happened just move on to the next race or if time allows show an interesting feature instead. The new channel will hopefully provide a more entertaining alternative. I wouldn't have gone with Oily and Turner will be a guaranteed disaster but I am pleased they have gone for a few relatively new faces. |
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When I said I concur I was referring to birkdale.
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I'd have brought back Francome to mainstream TV. Knowledgeable, witty and comes across well.
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I suppose what this thread shows is that everyone has differing opinions as to who should be included.
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re Analysis -- you need some way to let people know how horses are expected to perform and how the race should pan out. Otherwise you are just showing brown animals running round a field.
One way is via betting, and another is via form. Both should be covered -- but not allowed to become a highly technical argument about how many pounds per length Graham allows more than Jim. That is the problem with Channel 4 and I suspect will be the problem on ITV -- too many pundits tripping over each other. The producers need to think first about roles, and only second about people to fill them. There should be one form pundit, one betting pundit, one paddock watcher, and so on. Pundits should inform and entertain. The reason Jimbo and Francome worked as a duo is they were filling different roles -- but Jim and GC fill the same role. |
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Maybe they asked Francome, and perhaps Francome refused to be in the same studio as the new crowd.
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Francome refused to join the new C4 crowd when IMG took over from Highflyer. He has also turned down ITV.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-3495994/Former-champion-jockey-John-Francome-remains-loyal-turn-ITV-s-2017-offer.html The producers may feel that all retired jockeys make equally good pundits which is why C4 signed Fitzy and ITV has Hayley. If so, the producers are wrong. Most jockeys are not judges. We were spoiled for a time because Francome and Willie Carson on the BBC were both good judges -- Jimmy Lindley was not; Fitzy is not -- look what a breath of fresh air Ruby was when he popped up for a few days. |
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i don't watch the sunday politics show. would i watch it if it was on a different channel, had a different presenter and they tweaked the format slightly ?
probably not ... |
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willie carson was dreadful
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Hands up if you want to see horses walking round the paddock, going down to the start, maybe some local news and interviews with racegoers. If you ask experts for their views and 'tips', let's see a performance table and idiots thrown out when they hit a certain stop loss level...
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willie carson was dreadful
Carson was an excellent judge. He was bloody awful with Clare Balding because they kept trying to do each other's jobs. He'd try and do the chirpy presenter stuff and she'd chip in with her view of form and paddock appearance. Carson and Rishi were a far superior pairing because Rishi would draw out Carson's expertise. It's what I was saying earlier -- it is all about roles, not just handing out microphones to a random collection of hacks and jocks and telling them to get on with it. |