Geoff Banks - what an utter cretin!

jeff banks works in fashun,,,

Apparently Geoff has been sending a few letters out recently to punters he considers won't be profitable for him and whose business he no longer wants. Mugs only apply.

Quite an interesting question if you're reading Geoff. What effect do you think account closures/making it hard for people to get a bet on/winners not welcome will have on the long term future of the racing game?

he made Emma blush tho

Quote: "I bet Geoff wouldn't have the balls to make disparaging comments about Jamie Spencer or any other so called "top flight" jockey"

Unlike the anonymous out of pocket posters on here.

His father would be turning in his grave one word for the so called sports advisor vermin

Ffs lighten up lads,

I thought this was a gambling forum not the retired womens guild.

Ye dont have much to complain about if this is what upsets you.

Sorry thought this was the thread giving out about his sammy jo quip ,

Having said that we are always giving out about pundits not giving an opinion and afraid of upsetting anyone,

If he believes it and has the balls to say it fair play to him i say.

The sport in general would be in a better place if more pundits spoke the truth.

tomhunt    21 May 16 14:30 
'apparently the boyfriend will be out for a month'...Laugh

Buffoonish and cretinous smut from the puerile Banks.
Thick as two short planks.

entertaining lads opinions divided here from the fair commentors- who whilst they may not agree- accept not everyone has to

Might I point out, to the mary Whitehouse types- television is to inform and entertain.

In the inform part- amongs other comments I napped Garcia and told you AOB 'greatest horse I've ever trained' had no chance.

As to the entertain part- well of course not everyone is going to laugh- but racing is replete to bursting with some of the most obsequious telly in modern sport- noone questions. AOB can remove Ballydoyle claiming his 'blood picture ' as unsatisfactory- and nobody bothers to question the obvious. But then ultimately these pundits end up out of work - because they're as dull as the producers who employ them.

so yes, I say what i think, and it's with credit that channel 4 let it happen where other networks would wither. It doesn't mean producers on 4 agree with everything i say - far from it, but at least it offers a contra view- a debate, a disagreement perhaps. A laugh to some, to others an opportunity to criticise without thought from their anonymous profiles on here.

One final point. I speak as I find- like my Father before me who made more fatuous remarks in the right spirit than many in gambling - he sent it up the establishment. What i do find is those that agree- say little, and those that disagree- call me a moron for disagreeing with their point of view

I'll stand Levey's mounts because quite simply he's not a patch on the great jockeys. It doesn't mean the man falls out the saddle- but that i'm happy to oppose a jockey who averages 12% win rate to one nearer 25%. It's basic maths, and let's face it opinion.

Don't batter opinion - embrace it - it's a hell of a dull world without controversy

in the mean time

He won't know what specious means

I have watched the Morning Line on occasions recently and have enjoyed seeing Mr Banks get under the skin of the likes of Ruby and Fitzy who are 'insiders' within the industry.

The horse racing industry is an inert world where the people who work in it are immediately on the defensive if any 'outsider' dare have an opinion which could be critical of those within it.

I remember when the Morning Line was 'fun viewing' with the likes of Big Mac, Francome et al expressing opinions without fear. Mac would criticise jockeys and bookmakers openly (of course he wasn't always right), but him and Francome weren't frightened to rock the boat.

Currently the only presenters / pundits who are prepared to be critical are Chapman, Cunningham, Hislop and most recently Mellish. Boycie spoke his mind once and supposedly nearly lost his job. Chapman has allegedly been suspended for speaking out and Hislops spat with the 'green and golds' could have cost her.

It's easy to criticise,, but, horseracing presenters and pundits have to put food on their table and they know if they upset the 'insiders' it could have repercussions for them.

Well done sir for having the courage to respond and come on the forum to make your case.

I gave up watching the ML a long time ago as even then the programme was never really informative and only occasionally did one of the presenters (usually John Mc) put his head above the parapets to confront a contentious issue. I digress....reading what was said about Sammy Jo was actually rather funny and certainly quick witted. It appears it also made her giggle so cannot understand the po faced puritanical criticism you've been getting.We're not living in an Islamic state...yet.
Regarding Levey am not aware of the context of the criticism;suffice to say looking at his statistics he's an average jockey with a S/R of 12% (slightly better than average)and an A/E of 0.91%. To be fair to him however his S/R has improved to 15.7% over the past year and his A/E improved to 1.03%. If he keeps going like this Whistlejacket the original poster is absolutely correct in his comments.Backing his mounts over the past 12 months would have produced a positive 2.5% ROI albeit at BSP...and that's another story !

he's standard and that's why many will find him amusing

No Ekbalco - the price of a horse - ridden by Ryan Moore, will always be affected positively- even if he's now off the horse- it's therefore articicially low

As for whether you'd turn your back? I doubt that- I'm sure some of the people shaking my hand at the races for speaking out disagree with things i say on occasion. But they're not anonymous- therefore they remain human and polite

I probably don't go to your pub anyway. Enjoy Simon Mapletoft

Fair play for coming on. Yes we need panelists who are prepared to speak out and yes we need a bit of fun on the morning line. Only thing is I don't think that joke would have been made to a male jockey so like the rest of us you have to be careful of slipping into middle aged man syndrome and saying something inappropriate. An obvious example would be Ken Livingstone.

what about restrictions sports advisor would you care to comment did you not claim you would take all clients bets to 50 quid if my memory serves me correct

I like Jeff, anyone who get's under the skin Of Ruby & Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrse is all right by me !