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Cheltenham just another meeting
Cheltenham just another meeting
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From a betting point of view Cheltenham is the same as anything else; if something looks a big price you take it. But from a trading point of view it's the best week of the year.
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Morning Foxy, hope all's well. Not even a booking let alone a straight red. What made you think that?
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I red,
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No excuses for bad grammar barry.
Excluding bigmart who has Dyspraxia. Just my opinion. |
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i thought somebody had posted that you were banned must be either a crank or i misread something.
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I seemed to have slipped through the net and am still here.
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^^ REPORTED ^^
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"But from a trading point of view the best of the year"
Probably the best reply yet on this thread, even if he is wrong (not saying he is) I applaud the way he has looked at the problem from a different perspective |
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Agree with Barry....gave up going a few years ago as the crowds made the whole experience exhausting.Nowadays prefer to watch the meeting on television. Also big big mistake to have extended to four days with the inevitable dumbing down of quality runners.
Certainly makes sense to keep an eye on Wolver as frequently it's an opportunity to latch onto a well planned coup whilst everybody's attention is diverted. |
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18 races over 3 days was better i had no problem when the bumper arrived to make it 19 races but nowadays whilst i accept the ryanair and the albert bartlet are good races in there own right they were not needed,would we ever have seen that memorable finish to the 1989 gold cup if the ryanair was around then,the sun alliance hurdle {neptune}and the triumph hurdle are not the races they once were, even the jlt took away only yesterday a serious arkle contender.
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What is the point of this thread - to show how 'special' and 'different' the op is (or at least thinks he is)? Some of what is said is fair enough as the 'evenings' are one huge gravy train now, but great, you don't like cheltneham and approach it as any other meeting (though show me the aw meeting that you can bet nr no bet months in advance etc). Join the queue of other posters that have posted (and will post) similar threads or you could just not bother anyone on any racing forums next week with attention seeking 'I'm different than you lot' threads. Pip pip
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I'm surprised the OP hasn't plugged his website, there's still time of course.
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A brave opening post,and he is correct.
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I mean who wants to stand amongst those hoards of folks,when they can come to sunny Wolverhampton
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I seem to have split the forum here, approx' 98% hate my post and about 2% agree. Wait a minute those numbers look familiar
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The champion hurdle is as Matt stated, pants this year, still time to sell your tickets
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Pleased to say I am in the 2per cent and thanks Barry for your imput
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OliasofSunhollow Zip here thats the most sensible post I've ever seen on here
it is very good advice & I've been on here since 2002....very well put |
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Thanks Zipper, welcome to the 2% :)
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OliasOfSunhillow 08 Mar 16 19:29 Joined: 05 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 1,556 | Blogger: OliasOfSunhillow's blog
I expect on the whole to be ignored which paradoxically is why I have posted. If I thought everyone would rush to listen to what I say I would almost certainly shut up. While only the few are listening I am willing to speak. Perhaps the odd person new to the game will listen and short circuit those wasted early years. Rate reply: | report block user NEW TO THE GAME AND U HERE 2012 |
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Olias..... dont worry about being in the 2% club..when your right your right in fact Befair have said many times 95 % of there punters lose long term ... and all are in the 98% club... dont follow the crowd is my advice ....
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my DAD told me that many years ago....take em on son
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I agree with foxy. 4 days too much and the main races have been weakened.
With the new stands only a question of time before they go Wednesday to Saturday. They are now attending to the Corporates and the 'Once a Year Big Day Occasion Mob' |
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op, might have been good advice 25 years ago but in an age where you can also lay and trade, bet pre race and during the race etc its only the Luddites who should take note
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rider backing or laying BEFORE THE RACE starts is my game trading in running is something is not for me ... but good luck if its your thing
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The OP is trying to be smart but really he's wrong. Firstly if he's a form student rather than someone relying on inside information it's clearly better to be punting on a card where you know everything is trying. More importantly however he's forgotten that in the stampede to hook punters there are some great opportunities that you wouldn't get on a run of the mill meeting. Bookmakers are desperate to be best priced on the supreme novices particularly but also on the main event each day. You get all sorts of things like money back for 2nd places etc with many bookmakers plus additional places each way. Now the Op may say that if you are making money you can't get on with these bookmakers anyway. That may be true but if you are a pro punter or anything close you can't bet in the mornings on here at most meetings as the liquidity is negligible. At Cheltenham next week you can bet in the morning or just before the race. A key advantage.
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zipper, reading what ppl have posted clearly isnt your thing either
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asparagus
Good post |
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DeCalc, I have been on Betfair since it started back around 2000. Dont take any notice of the profile summary
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Asparagus has made some good observations but they fall into the catagory of treat it like any other meet ie if there is an opportunity take it whatever the occasion. Most do not do this however, they will be swept up in the find a winner at Cheltenham moment.
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can see both sides, not really a jumps man, will have a few bets next week at chelters. I don't think this 'everything is trying' makes things somehow easier.
as for the hcps, you will find similar winners that have been given a 'quiet time' showing a miraculous new lease of life as much as a horses in the lower grade aw stuff. There is no right or wrong answer here, some may like the better class races and i know plenty on here, myself included, will operate on the lower class primarily. |
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Why the obsession about what is and isn't trying? - presumably if you bet the rest of the year you accept non triers as an occupational hazard - If everything is suddenly a trier that distorts the form for the ones who had not been trying before. No edge there! Its not about what's off and what's not - its about market efficiency. Any meeting or individual race, which is analysed as fully as happens at Cheltenham above all other meetings,is far less likely to throw up a value bet - not impossible - just less likely- to a high degree. You need to look for value where others don't. This whole post is about odds and chances not spectacle. If you want to be a succesful punter this is not the place for you - if you're a racing fan there is nothing better on the planet.
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Dont lose sight of what I am saying here. I am saying its just another meet, I am not saying do not bet at Cheltenham. The problem is that most punters will sweat all 6 or 7 races each day and will not pay any notice to Wolves, Fakenham or whatever else is on that afternoon. If you find yourself doing that then you are not serious about betting but it could be argued that you are serious about enjoying Cheltenham
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Think the majority of people view Cheltenham as a 4 day vacation away from the daily grind of trying to get one over the books, hence most have separate funds to play it.
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Some good debate, enjoyed reading it more than most threads on here.
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Apart from the premise being tosh :-
..........If you are excited about this meeting from a betting point of view. .........then you have the correct view of betting to be a long term loser......... |