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Leaving aside the delay issues that concern some people, the picture quality is certainly very good and in stark contrast to ATR.
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I don't give a toss about in running and the 2 seconds delay (because it's easy enough to set it up before a race if you wish to do so anyway) so I welcome HD and it is long overdue.
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Haven't they been saying for weeks both channels would be on 432 ? ( HD 466 )
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432 sd behind 432 hd but 432 sd infront 466 hd
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Very very small difference though.
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how can 432 sd be behind hd ..
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HD 432
SD 466 here |
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TheCollector
07 Mar 16 13:52 I don't give a toss about in running and the 2 seconds delay (because it's easy enough to set it up before a race if you wish to do so anyway) so I welcome HD and it is long overdue. 2 seconds delay is a PRACTICAL issue with big financial implications for anyone betting IR on RUK...difference between perfecly good pics and HD is a FWP (First World Problem) that only saddos get excited about |
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Thanks, never knew 466 existed! Much worse picture though.
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The Collector obviously doesn't give a **** about anybody but himself duncan.
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Duncan, if your only reason for watching is in running betting then fine. Most of us want to see good racing with a clear picture and not judge everything by betting returns.
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But sage - it's a slightly different picture (as duncan so eloquently put it a FWP) - 2 seconds is vital to those of us betting in-running.
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Not sure that's true sage. Plenty want it for in running
Anyway without getting into that. Has anyone timed them all and can confirm if any one is faster/slower etc? |
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Not sure I'm looking forward to seeing Tom O'Ryan or Dave Yates in HD, so will stick with 432 for now ta.
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if it were a choice between hd or a red button with raw track pics it would be a no brainer, but when has the opinion of the subscriber ever been important when they have exclusive tv picture rights?
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I had it in HD for a couple of days last week. Speed was exactly the same as SD in comparison to RUK on Live Video.
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So the solution is to have poor picture quality for everyone so that in running players can have a shorter delay? The shortest delay is on course which is where I would prefer to be but at my age, the driving and standing around in cold winds is no longer a pleasure. jamesdean, I concede that many of those watching on a Monday in March are looking at in running, but as RUK don't have any coverage today, that is not an issue until Exeter tomorrow.
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You're right about they cold winds sage, at any age!
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absolutely nothing wrong with RUK picture before today...ATR on the other hand...
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the bootman, RUK was always about 0.5 - 1 second quicker than RUK on live video
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Newsflash,in running is not the be all and end all of the sport of horse racing,in fact it represents a very small part of the game. We already get numerous threads on a daily basis about LV,no doubt we will now get those added to with threads about RUK HD. The SD version is still availabe so ffs stop whinging about pic speeds
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How can you possibly describe the current picture as 'poor'. You must have an awful lot of things to complain about sage.
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Pablo - yes and HD is the same speed as SD in front of Live Video.
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TRD - pic speeds are vital - don't know how many times we have to say it.
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I see
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bilbo They are not vital to everyone though. In the perfect we would all have lightning quick pics,everyone on a level playing field,sadly that is not the case. I'm just pointing out that many don't play in running and couldn't give a toss how quick the pics are
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TRD, given inplay betting is now massive in football, cricket, tennis etc with much of the next generation choosing those sports and rejecting racing because of the lack of a level playing field, dont you think this puts the future of racing in doubt? that should be of concern to all
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Bilbo, only saying it is much worse than on 432. I was happy enough with it until the new improvements. It is all relative of course .I am old enough to have watched Arkle and Mill House live on BBC and didn't realise how poor the picture was until you watch it back now.
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rider betting on football etc etc has increased in general not just in play,horse racing no longer has the whole betting cake as it did many moons ago. As far as I'm aware the pictures for football,tennis etc do not represent a level playing field,some will always have quick pics no matter what the sport,because some will always be prepared to pay for them and in that case some will always be in a position to sell them
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I do bet in running on racing but normally put the lay up with the keep button on before the race starts to ensure that I don't get caught out by a delay on a fall or whatever. I'm sure there are a lot of in running players on course who would like to see a delay of 30 seconds
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TRD take a saturday afternoon, football or racing?
football suspends to prevent hoovering and isnt as time critical anyway so streamed games are fine (and free) so punters new the betting will choose football whether racing likes it or not its in competition with other sports and as you rightly say they are unsurprisingly losing market share and if that continues then racing will continue to shrink |
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the sound on my tv is much louder on 432 rather than channel 466 but the picture image is minimal difference
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Picture and sound quality is far superior here imo
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Geordie, it can depend on the HD TV you have .
HD ready is not as good as Full HD also , you will get a better picture using a HDMI lead compared to scart or other leads |
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TRD makes plenty pre race punting...ask him to post his last 3 mths p&l to prove it though..
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text is kaput on 432
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432 and 466 speeds look exactly the same, the question that needs to be answered is whether the SD has been slowed recently so that it tally's with HD, that seems unlikely as the HD viewers wouldn't care about in-running so RUK shouldn't feel they'd need to do that, however IMO seeing a SD picture not in front of the HD version is very unusual and if it's genuine I'd like to see an answer as to how this is possible.
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We'll see when the first RUK meetings are shown duffy - I will go ballistic if the pics have been slowed.
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i'm in the camp where it was suggested that sd was slowed down over a number of months,somebody who's 'live' would know best
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