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koikeeper
31 Jan 16 07:46
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The Mullins horse BATTLEFORD has the form, looked the winner in its point when it went on, but was headed at the last where it fell, the winner of that race was the unbeaten Lucky pass, so Battleford could be very good BUT...

A one who could beat it is A RATED
It was a bit green on its 1st run, but it was its last run that caught the eye in November, it put up a fantastic time for a 4yr old,  fastest time of the day by a massive 7secs ...... leading all the way... winning impressively,... looks to have a decent turn of foot
now when  a 4yr old can run a time like that, you have to sit up and take notice.... granted it  wasn't under  6 min Wink, but would have needed to be in an aeroplane to run that quick lol.

Gets the age allowance,  and  Dunne claiming the 7LB ....... At 8/1 it looks worth a bet!
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Report Andrew in Sweden January 31, 2016 8:13 AM GMT
Koi, a negative is the trip. Won a p2p over 3 miles (2 today) and it's breeding has 3 miles + written all over it. Age allowance is only 2 lb (same for favourite) and i've never heard of the jockey. Many of these Irish bumpers have a lot of dross entered, and some are 'waiting for another day', so maybe your selection could be placed. Not a betting race for me. Good luck.
Report quantize January 31, 2016 8:24 AM GMT
On RUK Friday Graeme Wylie said Battleford will hopefully represent him in the champion bumper. Had a bet at 7/4 when first priced up last night and a speculative punt at 33s for the champion bumper.

By 5 o clock that will either look shrewd or another token to put in the bin.

Good luck.
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 8:31 AM GMT
Andrew, its half brother " Mental Strength" won a bumper backend of last year.... not an exact science I know.

I would hope it would make the running
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2016 9:12 AM GMT
I've just backed it on here at 10.0, just looking for a trade!

Your word is good enough for me!

Love
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2016 9:31 AM GMT
I just found this money in the street!

Wink
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 9:51 AM GMT
Grin
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2016 9:57 AM GMT
Love
Report Swardean January 31, 2016 10:30 AM GMT
GL Koi
Report workrider January 31, 2016 12:00 PM GMT
Good write up Koi, heading to Punchetown shortly lots of speculation about this fella alright, Battlefront that is.Willie seems to think its one of his best ,maybe even his best but he gets it wrong so often with his bumper horses , will have a look at this in the paddock before deciding to have a bet either way...
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 12:23 PM GMT
A video of Battleford's P2P run

http://tv.p2p.ie/?tube=1058
Report equine flew January 31, 2016 12:33 PM GMT
I know you read the Irish Forum and am aure you will have seen that Keen leader tipped this up last night
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 12:34 PM GMT
Thats good Grin
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
Just read it.. not exactly tipped it up.. but alls good.

battleford is not wylies best bumper horse. he was not favourite at Loughanmore, opening 2/1 drifted out to about 5s, if memory serves there was late money for lucky pass and he was the loser for the books at the off and probably favourite. you can take the prices shown on the p2p site with a pinch of salt in some cases, as frequently the shows don't reflect the betting action for the last few minutes before the off, ie the real punting. he was beat when he fell, would have finished about 5or 6 lengths off lucky pass. battleford could win this, normally midnight legends like nicer ground, I wouldn't out you off backing him.

a rated could be the best horse in the race. Redmond has turned down 200k, Kenny no track winner in 4 years would put a dampener on things.
Report equine flew January 31, 2016 12:42 PM GMT
Yes, I noticed the post between all thee petty arguing and bickering that goes on in there.

Can't believe they have turned down £200,000.   Perhaps holding out for more after a impressive rules run?
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
Who knows, what price would it have been today if mullins had trained it....
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:04 PM GMT
How did both its half brothers perform on heavy ground?
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
When did the trainer last have a winner under rules?
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:32 PM GMT
Fleminsfith's handle the ground no probs

The next question, should be "When did the trainer last have a runner under rules? Grin, Vital Plot in a hunter chase..

not surprising for a P2P trainer Wink

Doesnt detract from what the horse did in its point Grin
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:34 PM GMT
Turtle Islands handle it and Brian Boru's so why didn't both half brothers not go a yard on it?
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:34 PM GMT
When did the trainer last have a winner under rules?
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:38 PM GMT
Breedingmad 31 Jan 16 14:34
Turtle Islands handle it and Brian Boru's so why didn't both half brothers not go a yard on it


is it an exact science?... obviously not.... some would say presentings dont handle heavy ground, some obviousy do,

I dont know, can you tell me... as I say, wether he has had a winner or not does not detract from what the horse has done in its P2P.
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:41 PM GMT
8 % win strike rate at Punchestown on soft/heavy
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:42 PM GMT
Thats nice Grin
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:43 PM GMT
Is that good for a P2P trainer  Cool
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:45 PM GMT
Flemenfirths
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:47 PM GMT
Yeah, got the spelling wrong, yawn.... good come back though Grin

Must be doing something right regarding price, seems to have halved and more Grin
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:49 PM GMT
Daft moneyCrazy
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 2:50 PM GMT
daft money or not....Grin
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 2:50 PM GMT
I backed one the other day backed into 3-1 from 11 or 12 cashed out and it got stuffedLaugh
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2016 2:57 PM GMT
You're learning, young grasshopper!

Laugh
Report polab January 31, 2016 2:59 PM GMT
It was put up by a tipster that specialises in Irish racing, I imagine that has had quite an effect on the price
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
You would have though the trainer could have found an easier race for it but its your moneyCrazy
Report Breedingmad January 31, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
thought
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 3:05 PM GMT
polab 31 Jan 16 14:59
It was put up by a tipster that specialises in Irish racing, I imagine that has had quite an effect on the price


Tell us more?
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! January 31, 2016 3:07 PM GMT
GB

Wink
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
GB?
Report polab January 31, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
Very successful service with 200 followers, so price movements are of course to be expected. Put up Balko Des Flos, Love Rory and A Rated ew
I don't back them  but I get to see what a lot of tipster services put up.
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 3:11 PM GMT
I dont pay for anything, just use my own judgement, so must be doing something right.
Report daveyworcs January 31, 2016 3:15 PM GMT
Nina to win the last two races - about 16-1 double
Report 1st time poster January 31, 2016 3:18 PM GMT
your having a few dabbles on bumpers this year koi
just wondering as you think past ratings mean little in hunters,what purpose you think 3 mile pointing form means in after you sir,no pace 2 mile bumpers in punting terms
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 3:22 PM GMT
Horses have to start somewhere, ask mullins that question Wink, ground testing, I hope it front runs and makes it a test.

In an ideal world it will probably want further, but its not, I have taken a chance at the price on what it did in its point.
Report equine flew January 31, 2016 4:33 PM GMT
9.6 on here now and 3rd best in market.

Mullins horse being hyped everywhere but stable not had best couple of days.

Watch  with interest
Report warringtonwire January 31, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
Done a few quid today but certainly not chasing in this heat. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a turn up but I'll only be spectating. Unless OYABWF comes on and says maximum full bank lay in which case I might back it.
Report warringtonwire January 31, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
Done a few quid today but certainly not chasing in this heat. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a turn up but I'll only be spectating. Unless OYABWF comes on and says maximum full bank lay in which case I might back it.
Report koikeeper January 31, 2016 4:43 PM GMT
No complaints with that, done for pace, needs a longer trip, ground no probs.
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2016 4:43 PM GMT
Ran well!

Love
Report Swardean January 31, 2016 4:44 PM GMT
Ran ok, and no damage done if you backed it ew.
Report 1st time poster January 31, 2016 4:45 PM GMT
maybe the jock but bit of a dogey head carriage all way round for mois
Report punchestown January 31, 2016 4:46 PM GMT
A Rated too keen for its own good today,better for the run.
Report Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods January 31, 2016 5:05 PM GMT
C Rated

Solid run. 2nd horse looks promising.
Report workrider January 31, 2016 5:55 PM GMT
Had a look at this fellow in the parade , I thought at first he was just a plain looker,then they took off the rug and bingo ,smashing looker big and well boned ,backed it e/w and was always happy it would be in the first 3. Rumour has it its going to Elliots..
Report ladycarla January 31, 2016 6:05 PM GMT
WR,
   Did the winner look impressive in the parade?
Report workrider January 31, 2016 6:12 PM GMT
I missed him Lady he went down early , but my mate saw him and said he was a smasher .
Report Ozymandius January 31, 2016 6:22 PM GMT
A Rocket, Wonks.

Don't say you weren't told.
Report workrider January 31, 2016 6:27 PM GMT
Ozy , stalker of the year ,he actually thought it was a sprint....Laugh
Report Ozymandius January 31, 2016 6:29 PM GMT
No gratitude.  No wonder I don't make a habit of throwing you a crumb.
Report ladycarla February 1, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
Thanks workrider.
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