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garychesterrrr
27 Oct 15 23:40
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Hi, A friend had a bet on Sunday which won, lost his slip & went in to fill in the forms in order to collect - the return was between 200-300.

Cut a long story short, the bet was collected earlier in another shop, close to the pub that he was drinking in. The lady said as far as ladbrokes are concerned that's that - there is nothing they can do.

Does anybody know if there is anyway he can challenge this? or whether the person collecting has committed any crime? So it could maybe be a police matter?
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Report the dealer October 27, 2015 10:44 PM GMT
would say it was theft, would get them to check the cctv they will have the time it was paid out and go to the police. might not do much good but at least it will let him know who collected it and you just never know
Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
Theft:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8129534.stm
Report BARROWBOY October 27, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
youll be lucky to find a ladcrookes employee that can be a***d to sift through cctv,if he left it on the counter it might even be a member of staff that collected it.
Report the dealer October 27, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
aye they must have been in the pub where he lost it Grin

i very much doubt shop staff are allowed to review cctv
Report xmoneyx October 27, 2015 10:56 PM GMT
ladbrokes will have original slip--rewrite out.  Slip to prove its in his handwriting

if it is--they can take it further cctv
Report never give up October 27, 2015 10:57 PM GMT
bigmart will know all about it
Report garychesterrrr October 27, 2015 10:58 PM GMT
thanks for the replies i'll let him know your thoughts
Report the dealer October 27, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
xmoneyx... the problem is though there is nothing to stop anyone from giving there receipt to a friend to collect in another shop then going back to the original shop and saying they have lost there slip. he has to hope that someone recognises who the guy was and maybe he is known by the police
Report Darlo Bantam October 27, 2015 11:06 PM GMT

Oct 28, 2015 -- 12:02AM, the dealer wrote:


xmoneyx... the problem is though there is nothing to stop anyone from giving there receipt to a friend to collect in another shop then going back to the original shop and saying they have lost there slip. he has to hope that someone recognises who the guy was and maybe he is known by the police


True. But the crime is the person falsely claiming vs the winning punter who lost his slip. Laddies now have theoretically nothing to do with the crime now, other than the police would have to request their CCTV.

Report the dealer October 27, 2015 11:09 PM GMT
i totally agree with what you say DB
Report THE LEGEND October 28, 2015 9:47 AM GMT
Was it his Mrs......I always seem to spend more when I come Merry funny as I don't drop money ... Lucky it wasn't the winning Lottery ticket
Report TommyBarnes October 28, 2015 9:53 AM GMT
I lost my wallet about 12 years ago, thankfully no credit/debit cards or cash in there.  They collected 2 slips, 1 Fred and 1 koral. Six months later I got a statement from Boots Advantage Card showing a zero balance so they had cashed that too the scumbags.
Report TommyBarnes October 28, 2015 9:56 AM GMT
Taught me a lesson though and I am now ultra cautious with my possesions
Report freerolling October 28, 2015 11:27 AM GMT
Laddies are right.....its now a police matter. File a report and they should go to Laddies for the cctv. Their system can pin-point exact time bet was paid and will get a mug shot of the person who got it paid out.......be prepared however because almost every case of this type I dealt with it ended up being a mate or family member who has taken advantage
Report chavman October 28, 2015 11:51 AM GMT
as the betting slip was found and not stolen,surely its a civil matter between the 2 individuals no Confused
Report chavman October 28, 2015 11:52 AM GMT
if you can ascertain their identity
Report freerolling October 28, 2015 11:54 AM GMT
Nope.......just because you find something doesn't mean it's yours! Still theft.....
Report longbridge October 28, 2015 11:55 AM GMT
@chavman, freerolling is right.  Google "Stealing by finding" to learn more.
Report homefortea October 28, 2015 9:23 PM GMT
Put the whole thing down to being stupid..

How can the fool lose a slip and be picked up and cashed in at another shop..

You are taking the rise fella..
Report minardi October 28, 2015 9:35 PM GMT
freerolling is on to someting - think back who you told about the win ... other than that its like stealing cash, and indeed finding it ... it used to be an occupation at racecourses to go through screwed up bet slips to look for a winner no matter how small.
Report chavman October 28, 2015 9:51 PM GMT
did you make much
Report Darlo Bantam October 28, 2015 9:58 PM GMT
"Finder Keepers" - despite the saying - ain't the law.
Report anth699 October 28, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
its theft,same as finding a bag full of cash and keeping it,contact the police,get a mugshot and visit the bar beside the betting shop,chances are they will be in,or bar staff will know them,thats if the plod take it seriously
Report freerolling October 29, 2015 12:53 PM GMT
Agree with with you anth....its a case of getting the police to take it seriously - if they do then you'll get a result
Report chavman October 29, 2015 1:07 PM GMT
find him,chop his legs off then challenge him to a skateboard competition
Report ripped off October 29, 2015 1:17 PM GMT
do you really think the police can be bothered with some idiot whos lost a betting slip in a pub?
Report freerolling October 29, 2015 1:39 PM GMT
£300 theft - they'll be interested
Report Facts October 29, 2015 1:42 PM GMT
Correct
Report ripped off October 29, 2015 2:01 PM GMT
theres a difference between theft and some clown whos lost a betting slip in a pub,put it down to experience and move on
Report garychesterrrr October 30, 2015 12:57 AM GMT
clown? idiot? you don't know the guy! We have all lost something one time or another, but I'll leave you lonely guys to enhance your existence by criticising those that you don't know.

For those that have helped - much appreciated. I've given him the info you guys have passed on and will let you know if he bothers going to the police etc.
Report Fashion Fever October 30, 2015 1:27 AM GMT
happened to me about 10 years ago, was thursday of the grand national meeting, was drinking in a pub was a bookies shop virtually opposite, the pub was showing the racing, so was having a few bets and watching the racing back in the pub having a pint.

Backed a winner couldnt find the slip just thought left on table in the pub and table been cleared, filled out all the forms in bookies, went to collect next day told it already been collected, the cashier let slip a nickname of who drawn it, it stuck in his mind as it was out of line with his usual bets, asked around and found who this person with that nickname, he completley denied it, the bookmakers didnt want to know.

never lost another ticket thou.
Report liberator of the oppressed October 30, 2015 7:56 AM GMT
.....and never went onto another betting shop again.Sad
Report ripped off October 30, 2015 10:24 AM GMT
you seem to be blaming everyone exept the guy who lost the slip, stick your dummy back in and forget about it,yes ,we have all made mistakes and lost things
Report 1st time poster October 30, 2015 11:50 AM GMT
just a thought ,without knowing the serial number whatever which denotes what shop on a slip,if such a thing excists ,how would the so called thief no he was going to a different shop, could have been going to the same shop where the winner was a well known regualer punter and the staff were waiting to say well done ,sounds like a tall story to me,you lose a slip in a pub next to a stranger who no,s the racing results,etc,nah i,m not aving it
Report roida October 30, 2015 12:36 PM GMT
homefortea 28 Oct 15 21:23 
Put the whole thing down to being stupid..

How can the fool lose a slip and be picked up and cashed in at another shop..

You are taking the rise fella..


for once i agree
Report adge October 30, 2015 6:51 PM GMT
maybe , but there were certainly plenty sifting through bins , checking the floor in the bars etc when the winner got disqualified in the leger.
plenty claimed winnings on bets that they didn't place
Report 11kv October 30, 2015 6:57 PM GMT
Its called Enterprise.
Report Barry Conway October 30, 2015 7:15 PM GMT
Call their customer services department or better, contact them on Twitter. They will pay as long as it's not too much (£500 max and not a filthy ew bet or back price) If you can prove you're a regular punter they will do it as long as it's not happened before. Very minimum they will credit it to your account as a free bet.
Report JML October 30, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
Are you being serious BC?
Report homefortea October 30, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
Barry CONAWAY must work for the knockers...

"They will pay as long as it's not too much"

Away with the fairies and "Very minimum they will credit it to your account as a free bet." has me in stitches..

Where do they get them from...LaughLaughLaugh
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