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racingguru
29 Jul 15 05:21
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Looking for bet placers for oct - april for jumps. PM if interested for more details.

Obvious things - I send placer money in advance. Placer returns profits daily. Person needs to be available for cash betting in shops early prices horses 8:30am - 10am approx - most days - saturdays are very important. Been doing this for many years and high profit to stake - can be verified by other placers already in my team. How it all works etc can be discussed via PM or pref e-mail.

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By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 15:13
ttt
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 18:19
Cmon guys. Can,t believe no one wants to make 20% + to stake for a little bit of running around. Been making money every year for over 20 years.

Maybe flat punters are all winners??
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 18:43
Would you not worry that the placer would just pocket your money?
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 29 Jul 15 18:52
Very much doubt racinguru is that daft.

I would try to help you racing but on a saturday im at it myself mate.

All the best
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 18:56
What amounts you placing guru, shops prob not take anything above 50
By:
holywell
When: 29 Jul 15 18:57
Have you had bet placers from the forum before ?

I recall a similar request a while back.
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 29 Jul 15 18:58
Think he did holly.

Good on him if he is giving the high street sharks a smack in the kisser.
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 18:59
There is always the chance that someone pockets the money but I start the person off small. It's a matter of building trust ultimately and once they realize the value of the info they are getting they want want to kill the golden goose.

No one has done a runner in the three years I,be had people from here doing it or the five years prior when it's been friends and friends of friends doing it.
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 19:00
I see ladcrooks doing best odds 12-1 and 5-6

I'm sure betfred still do best odds on 6 races

Do paddies still offer best odds 11-12 or 12-1???
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 19:03
Average bets are around 1000 split amongst various placers and online. Yes I,ve posted b4 and have 1 guy from here for 3 years, 3 more that have done for 1 year and 2 or 3 new for next year. Just trying to get one or 2 more as with corals/lad merging there will be one less set of early morning odds which will affect profitability unless I can increase turnover.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 29 Jul 15 19:04
Don't Paddy's do BOG every race? We had one open in our town about two years ago and they're BOG every race.
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 19:06
Shame hills dont do bog in shop
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 29 Jul 15 19:09
Just trying to get one or 2 more as with corals/lad merging there will be one less set of early morning odds which will affect profitability unless I can increase turnover.

They have merged mate, and will carry on with seperate trading teams for the foreseeable future so i have been toldHappyDevil
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 29 Jul 15 19:10
Only at a certain time kenners.
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 29 Jul 15 19:13
RG , I will be a putereronerer for you if I can place the bets on here , 5 minutes before the off

cheers
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 19:14
RG

How much do the placers make per year?
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 19:16
Pablo  -if that is supposed to be funny then I missed it. If not read the OP.
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 19:18
Marko they should double to 1.5 times their bank in a season so if they start with a 10k bank they,lol prolly make 12-15k for about 11 hours max a week normally 8-10 hours.
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 29 Jul 15 19:24
Pablo  -if that is supposed to be funny then I missed it

you mean you want me to type it again ?

It was a joke RG
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 19:28
RG

Do you ever back every horse in a particular race with the BOG firms and work to 100% and look for drifters winning, depending on amount of outlay a single point drift and can give nice return and paddies seem quite generous with their non runner rules
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 29 Jul 15 19:30
Once vetted how much do you expect each runner to be putting on per bet ?
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 19:42
marko - no i don't play that game - i often do 2 in a race and occasionally 3/4 in a big hcap on sat.

Olias - depends on the odds but take out of
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 19:43
contd ..... takeout of
By:
marko69
When: 29 Jul 15 19:48
RG

handicap chases are best for full race coverage, 3-7 runners, prices fluctuate best with these and often get drifters winning
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 29 Jul 15 20:04
OK lets say you are backing a 5/1 shot how much would a runner be putting on once vetted ?
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 20:16
Marko - yes i know there is potential profit in betting that angle but my online accounts are too valuable to me to get them restricted for low margin betting plus the bog offer doesn't tend to last too long with any of my accounts.

Olias - probably 100 for the new placer, 200 - 300 for the placers that have done it for a while.
By:
siralex
When: 29 Jul 15 20:25
I would love to know how people put 100,200,300 on in the shops.
I went to a new shop today, wanted £62.50 win at 7/1 and had to be phoned up and that was at 4pm for an evening race.
I had putters on for a while and they all got made sp only within 2 weeks. And that was Betting no more than £50.
I got refused £75 in Manchester City centre at badbrokes on a 4/1 shot at 10am on the grounds they have gangs going round all the shops in the area putting on money on the same horse!
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 29 Jul 15 20:27
How do you possibly expect a placer to get 300 quid on in a shop, its simply not possible even in multiple shops they will be flagged within 3 or 4 bets. Even if they place it in around 5 city shops at less than best price thats still 60 quid a bet which will have them banned inside a couple of weeks. I presumed you was going to say that you want 100 people to put 10 quid on for you and maybe 5 quid for themselves
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 20:29
Siralex - agreed its not easy but if you are betting arbs on bf then you have no chance. My bet placers split up their bets depending on who is managing the shop etc. They get to know the cashiers etc and what they can get on.
By:
siralex
When: 29 Jul 15 20:44
I never arb racing guru just take best price. I know every shop within 25 miles and all the staff but they all speak to each other and once the area manager is aware of u they ban u from all the shops.
If u put 25 or less on then u r fine but once u hit the 50 and above mark u r screwed, at least where I live u r!
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 29 Jul 15 21:40
racingguru - I'm sure you know the limit that each shop will take at the price you want. How much of that do you ask your placers to bet for you?
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 29 Jul 15 21:50
racningguru i know the chap who runs my local Corals there are two shops in my town both Coral

they will take any bet, only betting shop in the town

I'm happy to place for you
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 29 Jul 15 21:58
Bondy - will you edit the price or winnings you pick up though??
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 29 Jul 15 22:05
no mate
By:
racingguru
When: 29 Jul 15 23:26
The bet placers I have, have experienced issues in certain shops for sure and one of them in particular who lives in a small town can't do multiple bets at various Hills shops for examples but they can all get on decent enough amounts.

I guess maybe because the horses I'm doing are not bad e/w's, not arbs on betfair and are not tipping line stuff where they are linking it to sharp activity online that I'm able to get on.

Really getting on 1000 - 1500 isn't that hard when split with a few runners and online. I don't expect it all will be at best price but I end up with an average price thats still way ahead of bfsp. I guess having good margins affords you that luxury. Also 40-50% of my turnover is Saturday so seems easier especially after 9am.
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 29 Jul 15 23:39
they will take any bet, only betting shop in the town

I'm sure that they will from you; you're not exactly the fizziest drink in the fridge.
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 30 Jul 15 09:11
Best of luck Guru, here is a potted history of my journey and my experience with runners

https://markatsmartersig.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/transition-from-bookie-to-betfair/
By:
racingguru
When: 30 Jul 15 14:51
Olias - sent you a PM.
By:
racingguru
When: 31 Jul 15 17:43
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