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By:
ihal essex
When: 29 Jul 15 11:54
Some of the comments on here are not just harsh but utterly ridiculous. I'm losing a bundle on Weld's Galway runners so far - yesterday was a disaster - but to suggest that Weld is bent is just  trashy pocket talk. IMO Dermot is one of the few punter-friendly trainers out there, on a par with John Gosden and certainly way ahead of Sir Michael Stoute and Aidan O'Brien.
By:
wondersobright
When: 29 Jul 15 15:08

Jul 29, 2015 -- 9:18AM, irishone wrote:


Weld is a legend , he only has 4 running at Galway today Plate day, this is well down on his normal number of entries , he has found bigger fish to fry.


spot on

By:
wondersobright
When: 29 Jul 15 16:51
weld punters on the charlie chase can now breathe Laugh
By:
onlooker
When: 29 Jul 15 19:31
Is the Party over?

The last race, today - 1 mile Maiden ...

Weld won it for past 6 years - and only missed out winning it just twice in last 15 years.

4/7 FAV today =  4th.
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 15 20:47
Jeeez, last night was a bloodbath for punters, but to then get another 4/7 and 13/8 shot well and truly rumped today at Galway just adds to the ongoing misery for punters. Thankfully he had one short priced winner as favourite tonight, but to level stakes most punters would have already given up on Weld and gone skint. You flat earth society lads keep backing these Weld hotpots..... enjoy your losses.
By:
ColeWorldNoBlanket
When: 29 Jul 15 20:55
As someone said, peaked early in the season when he was in unreal form
By:
bigmart
When: 29 Jul 15 20:56
stables runners look like someone got to them running so bad
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 15 21:00
Why would he peak early this year when Galway is his favourite fesitival of the year for winners......did he tell everyone all his horses that are going off as shorties at Galway will barely run an inch. Have a word with yourself and get some sort of fooooking grip fella or people will start thinking your a fantasist.
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 15 21:02
His runners stink this year Mart, most have run miles below form, amazing that he has still managed 3 winners to be honest, they should drug test all these hotpots that are getting slaughtered and not picking their feet up.
By:
basilbrush
When: 29 Jul 15 21:05
Welds horses are running as if they have been got at (drugged), surprised more people havent noticed just how poorly they are running, foooking hope the stewards have noticed.
By:
Golden Fleece
When: 29 Jul 15 23:36
lol irish stewards are you for real,funniest comment I seen on here in a long time.
By:
hello :-)
When: 30 Jul 15 02:12
I have the upmost respect for Dermot weld

a trainer of the highest class and always a interesting man to listen to , its is impossible for the man to constantly reach the high bar which he himself constantly raised , but ignore him at your peril
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 12:57
Another five beaten yesterday including a favourite, and a second favourite who actually managed to finish stone bonking last of 18 runners. Lord only knows what to expect this evening with another five fancied runners going to post, with the likelihood that at least three will be very short prices. Super Yankee anyone.....Excited
By:
zygote
When: 31 Jul 15 13:03
The stable is clearly out of form, simple as that. Mr Weld is a world-class trainer, but ALL stables hit bad patches. Witness John Oxx, who is also a top man. 2013 was a horrible year by his high standards, made worse by the fickle Aga Khan removing his horses from him. Dermot Weld will be back, mark my words!
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 13:21
Hopefully be back on song tonight......? Im beginning to wonder if his stable have picked up a virus, horses with the virus look as though they have been drugged and go out like a light when they come to win their races, almost identical to many of Welds horses at this years festival. I also noticed Weld had a couple of Non Runners yesterday which might be telling.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 17:50
Ooooops....The nightmare continues, another Weld odds on pot bites the well trodden dust this week. Laugh
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 21:15
Absolute Weld bloodbath again tonight, something seriously wrong in that stable at present. Hope I put some of you chaps off backing Welds horses over the past couple of days, you would be sharing your gruel with Oliver Twist if you thought a few short priced losers was pure bad luck.Laugh
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 21:23
You made enough accusations that his horses were drugged.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 21:28
They might have been drugged, have they been tested, what are the results ?? They may have caught a virus, have they been checked or scoped by a vet, do you know. ?? One thing that is certain is that they have under performed significantly this week when they have come under pressure which is very unusual for Welds horses at the Galway festival. Or do you think they have all been running to form ??
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 21:31
That is a bit different then your initial claim that they all looked doped to their eyeballs and you demanding that the stewards should drug test them.
By:
Spock
When: 31 Jul 15 21:34
Not wishing to be overly dismissive of this nonsense but what twaddle - Mr D Weld had an incredible strike rate at the beginning of the year, and has been sending out winners left, right and centre for the best part of the intervening period (+50% are running in the first three for the Irish year on turf). He's bound to have a soft spell as other posters have pointed out, and he probably wishes it wasn't around now, even though many are still performing creditably.

I do agree something should be looked at about one of his runners though - Mr F Maguire's continual whipping of Time To Inspire
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 21:37
^ Finny got a couple of days for that and doubt it will be repeated either as i,d be fairly sure bollockings would be flying for it.
By:
Spock
When: 31 Jul 15 21:38
Glad to hear that and thanks for posting pa
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 21:40
No problem Spock,hate seeing it myself and hopefully wouldn't be repeated again by him.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 21:42
The Stewards should be testing them, Weld himself should be asking for them to be tested, he should also be getting vets into his stables to try and find any other medical source of the problem. I should think Weld is even more concerned about the way his horses are failing to see out their races than anyone else. I have known stables to close down for a period when they are running as badly as Welds currently are. Having now watched virtually all of his runners, I would be fairly sure they have picked up a virus. The virus I suspect they have is similar to Fibromyalgia in humans, things can seem okay for a while, but when the body is asked for maximum effort, it just isnt there. Not sure if it is called equine flu or not, but the signs are easily spotted when the horses race as it is similar to being doped. I hope to hear that Weld has identified the source of the problem, and hopefully rectifies it in due course.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 21:46
On a more pleasant note, I think Finny is an exceptional talent, spotted him riding a while back and was impressed straight away.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 21:56
Looking very likely now Dermot won't be wearing his "king of Galway" crown in the long winters nights to come(first time in 27 years?)think Willie will be wearing it with a big smile across his face, had to happen some time.
Mullins and Martin had some very decent horses this year,Weld ran a lot of maidens earlier in the season that often would have been kept for it, his runners underperformed but not to a huge extent, just a bit of an odd meeting this year, the DW money machine dried up.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 22:04
Well good luck to Weld, hope they turn the corner, not nice sending out so many shorties and seeing them all get turned over at your favourite venue. Weld horses done me some good turns through the years, so was talking a bit tongue in cheek earlier in the thread. I know Weld wouldnt drug his horses, its if they were being got at by some criminal third party, lord knows its happened many times before. Anyhow Im firmly of the opinion that there is a medical cause for his horses being out of form as it can hardly be said they are staggering all over the place, they are simply not seeing out their races which could be lack of fitness (though I doubt that), or more likely a bug/virus striking at an inopportune moment in time. Weld will be back harvesting the Galway Festival next year, God willing of course.
By:
Spock
When: 31 Jul 15 22:16
I really don't think he'd be running a horse twice in two days if he thought there was something wrong in his stable - Galway or not, he's not a guy that overexerts his charges without good reason, and remains probably the best target trainer out there. Maybe he had better targets for his horses this year, as his blistering stats in the preceding months elude too...I certainly think you are right to point out they are certainly not at their peak around now though BB, but am equally as sure that Mr D Weld will get it right as soon as it is possible.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 22:19
I accept that that most didn't finish out their race but that could be simply that they met better ones.
I,d play next year by ear at this stage,i'm too used to things not following the supposed script.Thought he would run Griko this week in a 50-80 as the mark was good imo,it was my Weld "banker".  Keep an eye out what he sends to Gowran particulary early season Basilbrush,not a bad policy.
By:
Big_Issue
When: 31 Jul 15 22:20
HES NOT A BL@CK MUZZY IN CALAIS IS HE?
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 22:26
With the greatest respect I cant have the early season blistering start theory for one simple reason.....none of his Galway runners have been over raced, so unlikely to blow up, or be be over the top by attempting one race too may. Weld is simply far to shrewd for that to be a possibilty imho. All about opinions though chaps, and opinions are like ar$eholes, we all have one. Win Lose or Draw, I will not make any further comments on this thread tomorrow about Welds runners as I am actually beginning to feel a little sorry for the guy, as I have seen him scratching his head at Galway, I dont think he can believe what he is witnessing either. Good Luck.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 22:27
Will do....good luck Pa.Happy
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 22:35
Hard not to feel a bit for him alright,good luck yourself Basil.
By:
Spock
When: 31 Jul 15 22:40
Really interested in views of whether it is a huge misnomer that when a stables horses are in form, they get a massive increment in winners and when they're not the opposite should be observed. For a stable like his, it could be an upscale / downscale of this?
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 22:43
Last word, Dermot has got a prize of a years supply of animec paste horse wormer for being top trainer there every year,no wonder you seen him looking a bit down.
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 22:53
Stables do drift in and out of form, some peak in months when others are on a downward spiral. The issue for me in relation to all the theories being mentioned on here is a simple one.....I know Weld wouldnt present such a huge number of runners at Galway over the entire week if he felt his stable was out of form, or that it was possible his horses were unfit, or over the top. I genuinely believe Weld is probably as dumbfounded by his horses performances this week as punters probably are, Im equally sure he wont leave a stone unturned making sure he satisfies himself with a feasible explanation to explain what must have been a difficult week for him. Anyhow, time for a game of poker, Goodwood and Galway again tomorrow.Happy
By:
basilbrush
When: 31 Jul 15 22:57
Lol Pa.....I wonder if I should send him a consolation of a few sachets of Panacur wormer that have been in my shed for donkeys years.Laugh
By:
Paterson92
When: 31 Jul 15 23:01
Weld was interviewed several times in the lead up to Galway by ATR and RTE and on every occasion he played down his chances of dominating this year. When asked what 3 he would recommend to punters wanting to bet their 10 euros on he gave Zafayan (stuffed 16 lengths, went off 11/8), Simannka (stuffed 6 lengths, went off 13/8) and New Agenda (stuffed 6 lengths, went off 4/7) - that just about puts into perspective how well the week is going for him compared to previous years. Maybe the horses he is running are good enough but are out of sorts at the moment, who knows, but for people to follow Weld all week going by previous years - find a new game! Let's face it, he has dominated in previous years and the 17 winners he had one year is very impressive but let's face it, does Aidan O'Brien ever send his big guns to oppose him? No. If he did, would Weld have half the success he's had in the past? No. There's a reason they advertise Galway as the "working mans meeting" where it doesn't take a rich owner to have a winner. Weld's horses are well bred and he has them revved up for it with average at best opposition year in year out. It's not going to be total domination year in year out. The same people who follow Weld at Galway will be the same Mullins backers at Cheltenham and complain when that goes wrong for them.
By:
pa lapsy
When: 31 Jul 15 23:02
I'm not sure i fully understand your question Spock(my fault), i haven't the breakdown on this but my impression was Welds were well forward early and maidens made up a fair proportion of the so called "in form", it can't last though as the handicappers get penalised and the maiden winners have to go for a tougher assignment.
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