pays more than that greg surely.???   dont forget its x e/w doubles, not just the win. .....

  he has 6 winning bets dont forget.   

thats what I got paid out m8

but 14 losing bets aswell but still doubled

ignore the ( . ) ( . ) pp...they are all seethers...

chill out greg, i think pp is talking about earlier in the week comments.

a possible analysis

1) first leg win singles - before anyone shouts that they aren't singles, they are at this point in time. Nothing special here except that the third favourite is generally overstaked as compared with normal dutching. This is because of the level staking plan. There is no logical reason for this overstaking.

2) first leg place singles - Choice of race is obviously very important and calls for a certain amount of skill/nous on the part of the bettor. If there is value in the place bets, then that value exists because of what is commonly called 'bad ew races'. Again the third choice seems to be overstaked. As has been noted, late non-runners (reducing 3 places to 2 in the event of backing outside) could be detrimental to the bet as  a whole.

3) strategy of choosing doubles over singles placement - not clear to me if any advantage exists here. It is more convenient to the bettor especially if he is betting outside. The doubles strategy is actually very rigid in terms of staking. I know variations could be introduced by laying the second leg on here but so what?

4) the bet seems to be a safe one because of the frequency of returns - there's no denying this and I'm not trying to. This point may be linked to 3) because 3) perhaps rules out human nature (taking profit) in not going ahead with leg 2 if leg 1 is a good winner. Again it seems to come back to choice of race ( I say race in the assumption that its is always the market leaders (2 or 3) that are chosen) and the skill in so doing.

5) It will be interesting to see a much longer test - bookies seemed to survive bad ew bets (perhaps by restrictions) and I have always though that multiple bets are a useful screen in this respect. If the success of this bet rests on the place doubles (which some more detailed analysis may be able to find out) and the bet becomes more popular, then the bookies may do something about it.


I'll  leave it there for now.

excellent swift , one wonders !

Read opening post

She has said she does them cash in the shops to smallish stakes lumpon.

Of cause she would get mullered online, but for her it works aand you cant knock it i m o

he..........nap

women dont gamble..

some will tell her she belongs in the kitchen


but thats cos they dont know what to do with her in the bedroom

I don't really call it gambling but there you go.

Anyway bet 28

Don Keyhoe Tay, Emerald 4:55 R
Seventh Lute, Keef Kha, Battle Chief 12:20 FP

6 x £20 EW Doubles

oops,hello pennypincher

Bet 29

6 x £15 EW Doubles
Don Keyhoe Tay, Emerald 4:55 R
Grangeclare Rosa, Hows Patsy, Odonoghues Opera 7:55 R

PennyPincher    31 Aug 15 10:50 
I don't really call it gambling but there you go.

so you go to a bookmakers and place a bet every day...what would you call this undertaking pp please?

are all your bets placed at the time the shops offer bog?

varies roida most of the time yes but if hills, for example, are standout I just use them. SPs invariable lower than best available

why not lay off the win parts on here then?

probably swings and roundabouts s kenbo
if you didn't get the winner of either leg then e.d. would definitely be worse
even of you did get the winner, I suspect a short priced winner only would also be worse