Surely the product you go in the shop for is the markets, the prices, the ability to back and lay, not a specific version of the interface?

(caveat: I'm on record as saying I think the old site is ugly as sin, and I'm a big fan of the additional functionality in the new site for Racing).

longridge - You always come on these threads DEFENDING the NEW site. -

- as you have on the General Betting Thread.

You say that you like the NEW Site - and DISLIKE the OLD site - and want to see it go - as you post (on General Betting) ...

longbridge • April 30, 2015 4:24 PM BST

.... Personally I think it's ugly as sin and the sooner it's drowned in a bucket the better.
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Might I suggest that you are not a FULL ON HORSE RACING punter.

You sound like the type who is happy to place just  One leisurely bet half an hour before a race - rather than most of us - where time is of the essence CLOSE to the race 'Off' time.

We are, therefore, talking FUNCTIONALITY here - and THAT is where the NEW Site FAILS - with bets being SLOWLY Processed - and, often then, DUPLICATED because people think that they have not been matched.

As also  posted on the General Betting thread - AND elsewhere for AGES gone by ...

The NEW Site can quite often, dangerously, turn a bet of say, £10.5 into £105 - due to the S L O W processing.

There will be RIOTS on here - if that occurs regularly to many, many, users.

i will be off to daq as well...i detest the new site...hard work.

"Yet on races where this is not available and there is a non runner reducing the field to 7 the places reduce to 2"

I've only seen that where the NR happened when before BF opened the market (so it only eve had 7 runners) and it's the same Place market on the old and the new site anyway - or do you see something different?

For example the 1710 at Sedgefield has 2 places on the new site and 3 on the old site.

I never look at the Sportsbook. Can you not see the example I have given?

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/horse-racing/market/1.118621412?nodeId=27437446.1610

I'm not going to try to explain any more about the new site sparrow, I just get accused of working for Betfair

if you cannot see the equivalent place market on the new site, then there is no hope for you I'm afraid

Seriously I fail to see why this SHOULD be an issue, why not keep both sites in perpetuity, why is this  scenario such a problem

I can only see 2 places on the new site and I have also tried the link longbridge supplied.

New site is slow, sticky, unresponsive, error-prone, illegible and epileptic.

It's a major task to line up a selection's name with its odds amid the brightly coloured blank spaces, flashing lights and casino adverts.

Doing that several thousand times a day will be physically impossible amid the raging headaches the site induces.

Don't worry chaps Matchbook will have Horse Racing very soon I am reliably informed at 1-2% comm for all then then the incompetent fools can do all they want to try and drive people from their supposed Core Exchange Product to their more profitable Sportsbook and Casino games.   The Exchange customer is a second class citizen as far as they are concerned.

Exactly. So the answer is to dump the new version of the site, along with the disposable wage slaves who built it.

just gone back to take another look at new site..place layed 2 in last at brighton
it has improved ....but still much slower response times than old site

I'm scared of the new site. If you input a stake on one page and navigate to another page without cancelling and input a stake and place a bet on the 2nd page - it place both bets! Cost me £300 to find that out.

*saw

Also another big problem if any of you tw@ts from betfair are reading - it showed incorrect profit and loss on the cricket runs line and football daily goals.

why cant betfair see the new
site not as good as the old
is it change for change sake or to some people in jobs that they are not very good at

Like the majority here - I detest the new site and unless there is some major changes I really worry about my future on BF when the classic site is pulled. I dont use an API - I've mucked about a few times on gruss, but I was was nt as comfortable on it than the normal site layout.

My biggest gripe on the new layout is the size of the market view - (on both my PC and Laptop which have different screen sizes) The 3 boxes (lay/back) are virtually half the size of the old - and the amount of white space between the name of the selection to the boxes is ridicolous. Then when inputting a bet - the "What if" figure makes the boxes toggle up to fit the figures under the selection name. Try doing that inrunning of a 5f sprint - the screen bouncing up and down as u fire a few bets in and out.
The market view needs to get sorted to something very similar to the old - and giving people an option to get rid of the junk on the right hand side. Also the timeform option. Every time I login I have to untick it - Why cant it just accept I dont want it, its just more junk that slows down the site when moving around between the markets.

From yesterday Ive noticed on the class site - when you click on my account you now get an extra page which is alot more confusing than the previous. So if you want to see you P/l for the day - you know have to go through an extra page to get to the same place. How does anyone who works in management level see this as progress - everything is slower and less consumer friendly. I understand they need to close the old site down - but changes need to be done before this happens - and fast!

Cheers longbridge - that got rid of the games.

The other big problem which I just remembered. Say you click on lay all, say for a 5 or 10 runner race lets say. And try and type in say a speccific odd on the field, like 1.5 and say stake 20. I used to do this in lightning speed time on the classic (by pressing tab button) - but on the new,  every 3rd or 4th, it doesnt type in correctly - instead of 1.5, it will be 15 or boxes come up blank as pure typos.

Trying doing that longbridge and see if you have similar problems.

cheers