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I rest my case.Guilty because the jury says so. That's your stance. I prefer to make my own mind up due to my ability to think for myself. Don't try to interact with someone ahead of you in every way imaginable.
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Your response suggests the judge and jury have no understanding of the law. Try reading it again you clot.
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No, he is guilty because he broke the law. The jury simply came to the correct verdict.
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It says the opposite you tool.
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HE was found guilty in a court of law re this second chance supporters let me ask you this if he had raped YOUR daughter / or wife , would you hold the same view re second chance .
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Well I have tried to see both sides of the argument,I agree that there are some "young ladies" that frequent places knowing full well what they are getting into. The so called "glamorous lifestyle" out with the stars picture in the paper and all that. There are also those that scream foul! Even when consensual etc. The other side of the coin is whilst I accept that if he believes he is innocent why should he apologise? Having said all of that Women/girls kids etc all have the right to grow up knowing that abuse of any kind is not the "norm" I.E it is not acceptabe to go get pissedcome home slap the wife or kids and worse just because you can't handle your drink. I for one signed the campaign against him being reinstated @ Sheffield Utd I have also signed petitions against him playing for any club in the UK or abroad. I have no particular axe to grind with him I don't know him and I abhor the police and the way they stitch people up and the court system etc. However the system we use in this country rightly or wrongly found him guilty and therefore until his conviction is overturned @ appeal it may well not be he should be treated the same as the rest of us, plenty of traders etc use this site and plenty of businessmen etc so ask your self this if someone had been done for theft would you employ them to carry cash to the bank no of course you wouldn't. As a parent I don't want to my kids watching celebrities getting paid and it seen as being acceptable to act in a way the man in the street couldn't. So if he wins his appeal great get back on the pitch and score goals until then go use whatever status he has left to some good. However don't expect to carry on as if nothing has happened.
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off topic, but the op originally posted a joke (a bad one perhaps), the clue was in the spelling ... seems a bit daft to have a heated debate over a second rate footballer with a criminal record
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And got no credit for it, made me chuckle.
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true, maybe everyone saw it and thought it was shoite
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Marychain. It says nothing of the sort you illiterate tool.
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marychain1 08 Jan 15 12:20 Joined: 05 Apr 05 | Topic/replies: 24,395 | Blogger: marychain1's blog
If you understood the case you would see that the verdict WAS sound. Just because you have no understanding of the law, doesn't mean the judge and jury does. Just because I have no understanding of the law......... Doesn't mean the judge and jury does. Now that suggests they have NO understanding of the law either! ( Doesn't mean the judge and jury have an understanding of the law!) Got it yet???? Simpleton. |
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one of the reasons given in the local press were that staff at the club have received threats will are unfit for purpose police force do anything about that ?
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I didn't notice the joke, it's quite a good one!
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I'm not really sure why one player was found guilty and the other wasn't but just out of interest, if you got a call during the early hours from a mate to come to a hotel room and there was a girl there so out of it that you could do anything you liked to her, does that mean it's OK to do so?
Anyone answering yes, by the same taken must also be saying if you see a drunk laying on a park bench that it's perfectly acceptable behaviour to empty his pockets too. |
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Double post alert but apparently the deal's off now and he has also made this statement:
"Upon legal advice, I was told not to discuss the events in question. This silence has been misinterpreted as arrogance and I would like to state that this could not be further from the truth. "I do remain limited at present by what I can say due to the ongoing referral to the Criminal Cases Review Commission and whilst I continue to maintain my innocence, I wish to make it clear that I wholeheartedly apologise for the effects that night in Rhyl has had on many people, not least the woman concerned. "Finally, it has been claimed that those using social media in an abusive and vindictive way towards this woman are supporters of mine. I wish to make it clear that these people are not my supporters and I condemn their actions entirely and will continue to do so.” |
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His words or what his advisers have advised him to say?
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Was very anti Ched Evans until i read some facts about the case, and saw the CCTV of the girl entering the hotel.
Though he clearly is no angel and tbh seems a pretty horrible character, there are definitely a few questions that need to be answered particularly the deleted Facebook comments and deleted tweets from the young girl to her circle of friends. He definitely take advantage of circumstances but whether it constitutes rape is another matter. |
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Oh of course jamesdean, I'm just reproducing them here though.
What it all boils down to is that if a bloke gets a call from a mate to say come to a hotel room because he has a girl there and when the bloke turns up and sees she is totally out of it, some blokes will take advantage and some won't but the ones who do will plead their innocence and claim it's not rape because she didn't object. Others will argue she didn't because she was in no state to and using the same logic it's unlikely she consented either. I think some less intelligent blokes think there's only one form of rape and that's when a woman is sober and is overpowered in a public place and dragged somewhere out of the way and violently sexually assaulted by someone she doesn't know and that was the earliest time they became aware of the bloke involved. There are also maybe some blokes who feel they would have done what Evans did in his situation and maybe even already have and feel they can't judge him as a rapist or it will also mean they must be too. No doubt those same people would take a totally differing view if the situation involved their mother, wife, girlfriend, daughter or even granddaughter and maybe even Ched Evans is included in that. |
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ive heard hes put in for a job, coaching doncaster belles
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Found guilty by a jury. That is not proof of guilt.Anyone who thinks it is has to be naive in the extreme. The word of a jilted drunken female who lied at more than one stage suggests the verdict may not be safe. It's happened before and will again.
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Commercial realities win again as I always knew they would. The club would have gone bust in 12 months if they had signed him.
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A joke conviction......the trollop was looking for a good seeing to.....and got it.....when she did she cried rape....the dirty mink should get 25 years in jail herself.....for ruining a good mans life.....
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Of course being found guilty by a jury doesn't necessarily mean he was but nor does a victim liar mean he wasn't either.
As for total brain dead idiots like paulie numbnuts, please tell me he has been allowed to pass on his seed......anyone would think he has previously done the same as Evans going by the obvious bitterness in his views. Oh and that reminds me, must catch up on a few The Walking Dead episodes online tonight. |
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Ima.....or John O Hara....whatever you call yourself thesesdays ya piece of Shiite.....I have ya blocked with years and I cannot read what rubbish you write.....well it was rubbish when I hadn't you blocked.....I assume its still the same....
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LOL...no pauline numbnuts, I think you will find it's 1.01 that I was spot on about you.
And I'm calling myself Sean Scanlon these days, as I have been from day one and it's only thick as fcuk idiots like you who haven't yet cottoned on that I'm not John O'Hara. Oh and by the way, how's Nick Williams doing for jockeys these days? ![]() |
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'A joke conviction......the trollop was looking for a good seeing to.....and got it.....when she did she cried rape....the dirty mink should get 25 years in jail herself.....for ruining a good mans life '.....
The language you use and your total lack of any kind of humanity tells us everything ! You well nuts are the biggest ''toby'' on the forum ! |
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Totally off topic i've noticed most of the biggest tools on here seem to like their .............................button.
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It gives them something to do with their hands whilst trying to think of what to type next.
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Drives me mad when they say he shouldn't play football again.
So people are saying if he was a plumber and raped the same woman it's ok to go back plumbing. They both do a job,commit the same crime but mmmm. Dirty Den killed a bloke but he went back into acting in the biggest soap on TV. Think a lot of people got double standards.whether he is innocent or guilty he as served his time. |
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well nuts seems a very embittered individual..... plenty on here know why don't they Robo ! ?...
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It's the time of year that bookies are offering special event odds for the coming year. Just found a couple on Bet365 :
Odds on a man landing on the surface of the sun 2015 50/1 Odds on Paulie miserynuts having sex with a female in 2015* 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/1 * ones having to be inflated do not count as part of this event |
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Ps i've had a tenner on the sun one, reckon it's a possibility.
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EVILROYSLADE - God you are a moron. No wonder the country is in such mess with idiots like you wandering around the place. The jury was satisfied that there was enough PROOF OF GUILT to find him guilty. Unless you were on that jury you cannot possibly know what this PROOF OF GUILT was. You fecking imbecile!
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Sex change and Arsenal Ladies is the only option at the moment
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It's never Gunner happen !
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Cicero. You know nothing you fool. Jury verdicts are NOT proof of guilt. It is their opinion. Just the same as if you were a juror. God help the defendant.You arsewipe. You are the imbecile.
A jury convicted Stefan Kiszko, Timothy Evans, The Birmingham and Guildford lot. You would still have them all in jail you pathetic nonce. |
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Just to add, you would not be so abusive to my face. That is guaranteed.You probably still sleep with your mother you suckling piglet. Thick as pigshit and fat on mummys milk.
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