The Young Master

If I owned the horse it would be taken away from the present trainer who has been incompetent imo.

whens it go koi

Not interested in that..its history..anyway, why take it away from a trainer that knows the horse inside out.

It Would have got the penalty anyway, but won with the proverbial in hand, the penalty wont stop it tomorrow..

3.00 ASCOT

thanks

koikeeper
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Not interested in that..its history..anyway, why take it away from a trainer that knows the horse inside out.

^ Because he cost the owner a big prize (when training fees are hardly cheap) furthermore the horse has gone up a stone in the rating's due to trainer error .....it is hardly surpriseing that you Koi who does not pay the bills is not interested in that !

What i don't understand is how it can be upped in weights when the race was void on his part.Either he keeps the race and weights go up or he is disqualified and remains on same mark.Its unfair to raise him and disq him at same time.

Do you think the horse will win tomorrow MadVlad ?

Like I said, the horse would have got the penalty anyway... taking the horse to another trainer is a bit extreme because of an oversite...if the BHA had done their job the horse would not have been allowed to run.. happens regularly with hunters with the amount of prize money they have won in rules races... ie too much to qualify for a hunter...the bha seem to find those.

Its just one of those things,, Mulholland will want to put things right tomorrow..

koikeeper
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Like I said, the horse would have got the penalty anyway... taking the horse to another trainer is a bit extreme because of an oversite

^ Is that not what you pay the trainer for who pays his secetary to ensure the relevant horse meets the requirements of said race ?

Its just one of those things,, Mulholland will want to put things right tomorrow..

mmmmm

Alrite if your a eccentric owner who money is no object I suppose.

Jesus, you are like a dog with a bone...

All I am interested in as a punter is the race tomorrow.... do I think it will win with the penalty...Yes...

effectively this horse has been clobbered twice.
Ran in a race it couldn't win and gone up 14lbs
in the ratings.Surely this should still be running
off 130?

Is this a 'without Houblon Des Obeaux' market?

no lol

Ah, The old SGB chase!  for the old timers!

3/1 get on

I hope it wins for connections.

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koikeeper
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Like I said, the horse would have got the penalty anyway... taking the horse to another trainer is a bit extreme because of an oversite

^ Is that not what you pay the trainer for who pays his secetary to ensure the relevant horse meets the requirements of said race ?


^ dug with a bone is irrelevant your post above was my point irrespective wheather you think it will win tomorrows race !

ps if I was the owner I would think it was a shoe in for tomorrow if it had not picked up a penalty with no financial reward !

I started the thread with a question about wether the horse would win tomorrow... thats all

Did not want to get into an argument about what happened last time..

koikeeper

Can't back him at that price in such a competitive race.

Merry Xmas.

TBF saxon, it was a very competitive race last time and it routed them, another step up the ladder here, but I think it will take it in its stride..

Having followed the horse, maybe I am a bit biased, but it does look to be the improver in this line up....

ps I love springers

Me too lol... a few pics of her  when we were away ..

http://community.betfair.com/koikeeper/go/gallery/view?gallery_id=1&type=photo&num=12&subdir=koikeeper&pref_tab=photos

she's a cracker,ma wee boy would be interested in her lol.

shes too old now, just gone 7, still like a pup though.

My boy is 3 and my first dog,love him like a child lol

koi........not good enough surely

Cardiff, how good is it?... its improving at a rate of knots, up 14LB but carrying a feather weight, has to go very close for me.

like koi ive been a huge fan of this horse for a long while ive had some of my biggest bets on it and some of my biggest wins .i have friends who have connection with the stable and they are going to the races today.as yet i havnt spoken to them but its likely i shall later .Before we speak i must say the horse winning last time was to my uneducated eyes and im not taking into account weight or any other factor the most impressive winner of the year . Of course my bet on it coloured my view . The bit about not being qualified is to me totally irrelavent it won me a substntial amount of cash ,of course if i had punted the second i might feel slighty different .... i have backed it already and if i get a positive word later i can assure y i shall again ... if i dont i might lay off some of my present bet ,,, but i think its a decent animal

koi........wouldnt be laying it but i think it needs to improve which is not impossible

koi.........it would be a boring game if we all agreed.....one of us will be right......one other thing would worry me is his hurdles form.........he wasnt very good

Hurdles and fences are totally different, i have seen many a horse improve no end for a fence, this looks another.

Agree its all about opinions, a race to look forward to.

yes i agree there about hurdles and fences......i do like BG as a jockey though.......what do you think of the bottom horse koi........he looks a monkey

I think Polisky needs holding up, maybe as late as they can... seems to put the brakes on more often than not, couldnt back it with stolen money.

wd koi

Gold Cup horse

A proper improving horse..

How far would he have Won The Hennessy

Never touched a twig. Most impressive.

easy

wd
GL

wow a proper horse with proper pilot ... thats one of the biggest bets ive ever had ...well done koi pleased y kept the faith ...

oioioi....in koi.....i trust

simon holt says he jumps left and his price more than doubles thank you very much.

Gloria victus II

wd koi Christmas paid for

WD Koi

From selling hurdles to top class chasing, living the dream.

A bit like hunt ball..

W.D Koi just hope the trainer is not tempted to run the horse in the gold cup this season after all it is only a young horse

Can see it in the gold cup maybe 2016, not this up and coming festival, too early for it imo..

well done koi never seen the post looks like it can jump for fun and they ain't rushing it just yet

Should go the Gloria Victus route - Racing Post Chase (or whatever they call it these days) at Kempton in February (probably off top weight) and if he wins that go for the Gold Cup or Ryanair.

Great result to see this win today , what a top horse.

Just a well handicapped horse probably 155 tops OR so no Gold cup winner imo

Gold Cup horse haha

Houblon would have beaten it giving it nearly 2 stone had Coleman positioned him better throughout the race

Coleman had a shocker imo

Can this run in rsa at chelt?

Glossy, you seem a tad peeved, no one is saying its a Gold cup horse at the moment, but who knows in the future maybe 2016/17... the horse is improving at a rate of knots and is still a youngster.

Houblon was on the outside most of the way  ALONG with The Young master....
Houblon is an out and out stayer who lacks a bit of pace, was caught a bit flat footed when they quickened..it also hit a few...
No matter how it was ridden yesterday, it would still not have beaten The young Master as it just didnt have the pace to go with it...

Koikeeper consistently the best poster here,well done.

wildmanfromborneo • December 21, 2014 8:40 AM GMT
Koikeeper consistently the best poster here,well done.

Oi, don't forget I put a winner up in 2013!