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Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 12:54 PM GMT

Nov 21, 2014 -- 10:55AM, big aitch wrote:


Sam, do you study form or study the betting market?I used to study form in depth, and used to back win and place, then made fair money laying horses, then a few years ago the horses didn't seem to run to their form in everyday races, particularly AW tracks, so it has been very up and down.I tend to mostly lay and back the field at various prices IR. and again have good and bad weeks, the winners always seem to be Betfair Do a bit in the football markets, but as I have no interest in football tend to stick to unders/overs


I swing trade and scalp horse prices using software. It sounds like what you're doing is simply gambling?

Report mememe November 21, 2014 1:44 PM GMT
Protradersam
I think you misunderstood my post to you earlier today.  It's not about believing you - I just wondered what your point is by posting on here and irritating forumites?

I post on here for:

1. general light relief and mild amusement;

2. occasionally to ask for info (to which I have always had sensible replies from other forumites (well nearly always));

3. very occasionally, if there is an appropriate topic, to publicise my laying web-site (for which I have received no abuse, well not yet - the web-site is www. only joking! don't shout).

So why are you bothering?  If I were you I'd just go and make money.
Report holywell November 21, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
mememe,

Maybe that's why he's posting on here, to make money, is he trying to sell his product ?
Report big aitch November 21, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
Sam, I think you will find that everyone is gambling on here, if there is a risk you will lose money it is a gamble, you are risking money with every profit you make, so you must be classed as a gambler as well.
Report geoff m November 21, 2014 2:19 PM GMT
Sam why no reply to Geds question?
Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 3:36 PM GMT

Nov 21, 2014 -- 1:44PM, mememe wrote:


ProtradersamI think you misunderstood my post to you earlier today.  It's not about believing you - I just wondered what your point is by posting on here and irritating forumites?I post on here for:1. general light relief and mild amusement;2. occasionally to ask for info (to which I have always had sensible replies from other forumites (well nearly always));3. very occasionally, if there is an appropriate topic, to publicise my laying web-site (for which I have received no abuse, well not yet - the web-site is www. only joking! don't shout).So why are you bothering?  If I were you I'd just go and make money.


Believe me, it was not me who started with the childishness. If I had not INSTANTLY been met with criticism, I would have taken a much more helpful approach but unfortunately it seemed as though everyone made their minds up about me before giving even providing me with a say

Report bannahan November 21, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
OP..


You could always FOOK RIGHT OFF......imo
Report pablo-fanque November 21, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
sam , you stated 1000 winning bets/trades in a row .

that is nigh on impossible
Report saddo November 21, 2014 3:40 PM GMT
I agree with bannaman imo.
Report Deltâ November 21, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
i agree with duncan and ged
Report Cork Langer November 21, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
If you fail to see or understand why people are suspicious or critical then you are naive if nothing else, if you are doing well, fair dues, but take the hint and keep it to yourself and enjoy what you are making, as no one here is going to pat you on the back, gamblers do not appreciate being told how to spend their own money or accumulate wealth as generally that is not what they are here for.
Report duncan idaho November 21, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
the guy is some loser who has been on here before under another name and has now learnt how to doctor p&l statements...and for that reason, i'm out!
Report geoff m November 21, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
I agree with bann/sad/pablo/delta et al
Sam your starting to make Big Mart look believable.
Sam why no reply to Geds question?
Report bannahan November 21, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
You have to say please geoff and put daisys around your question otherwise he gets all narly
Report geoff m November 21, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
The amazing thing other than 1000 successfull trades in a row is Sam has no idea why hes ruffled a few feathers.
May have been to Uni but once hes served his time @ the Uni of life he may have a better comprehension.
Report elise November 21, 2014 3:57 PM GMT
i think his p&l is correct, i'd imagine his portal page and lifetime might show a loss hence he doesn't want to post

if he feels he's now cracked it he's probably just full of himself, as i said on his other thread yest, edges come and go, so make the most of it

when he's seen several years of trading change he'll get it, right now he thinks he has all the answers
Report Darlo Bantam November 21, 2014 4:00 PM GMT
Agree there elise. Not just edges. It's how you react to a few bad trades/bets that can make you, not 1000 winning trades.
Report elise November 21, 2014 4:03 PM GMT
i'll have a look back at my excel a sec, see how many weeks longest i went without making a loss
Report zipper November 21, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
sam  Bit of advice   you will only get grief on here  ..why they  don't like winners   that's banna and the gang  the boo boys we all known who they are ...
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 4:10 PM GMT
1000 successful trades on the bounce zipper

think about that
Report bannahan November 21, 2014 4:16 PM GMT
WE LOVE YOU ZIP YOU ARE THE BEST EVER WE LURVE YOU Love
Report bannahan November 21, 2014 4:16 PM GMT
Zip only counts to 4
Report zipper November 21, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
Striding  1000  trades   .. its possible ....if you know what your doing    in THE CITY on the Stock Market  .. it happens every day  with the TOP  Dealers   .. that why they are paid  fortunes
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
1000 in a row is highly highly unlikely

6 hours of activity was posted on here

no response to calls for a 3 month figure

i'm sorry but i can understand the pessimisim

people are getting fed up with the BS , some very good posters on here have expressed the same view so no good you claiming any bullying, a lot of these would never post on such a thread.
Report Facts November 21, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
Single dealer, making a profit on each of a 1000 consecutive trades ? 

Utter nonsense. As is the OP 's claim.
Report Deltâ November 21, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
it must be deemed Bull, for Facts to return Plain
Report Facts November 21, 2014 4:47 PM GMT
Yep, selective appearances only these days.Happy
Report zipper November 21, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
Facts,,,,   take it you have never been a Dealer .. never talk about things you no nothing about
Report elise November 21, 2014 4:58 PM GMT
we're talking trades not drugs zip
Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 5:01 PM GMT
Will be posting today's P&L after trading for 45 minutes shortly. At this point these updates are just to piss the haters off, it brings me joy
Report pablo-fanque November 21, 2014 5:04 PM GMT
nice one sam, while you are at it , post your PC portal screenshot

cheers
Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 5:05 PM GMT
I appreciate the persistence, pabby but probably best to give up now chief
Report pablo-fanque November 21, 2014 5:12 PM GMT
I appreciate the persistence, pabby but probably best to give up now chief

ohh the irony sam
Report maelduin November 21, 2014 5:14 PM GMT
We appreciate your resolve Sam, but probably best to give up now chief.

1000 successful trades in a row = ROTFLMAO!!!
Report freddiewilliams November 21, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
zip said on ere yesterday....it was impossible...today he says its possible......have a nother jack daniels and ice.....and send elizabeth the secretary home.....shes done enough dictation today
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
zips usually pished in the evening hence the 4pm curfew
Report Dr Gonzo November 21, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
OP is mfordy (NAP)
Report zipper November 21, 2014 5:40 PM GMT
strid / fred   re piss...ed  your so wrong
but whats possible  it goes something like this ,,,,if you believe   in your methods  it possible...
if you don't believe  in your methods   its impossible   ... that's why guys like you have been no were  and going no were    .. and you can take that to the bank ...good night
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
1.) you obviously have no sense of humour and your reaction suggest to me i may have hit a nerve.

2.) the day i worry about what insignificant contributers to this forum like yourself have to say is the day i pack it in.

you know from previous debates and discussions i am not some greenhorn that is going to put up with the mounting BS being banded around and i will always try and back up my points with evidence.
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
you must still think the fecking tooth fairy and santa exist if you believe 1000 succesfsul trades on the spin is remotely likely Crazy
Report freddiewilliams November 21, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
put ure head on the pillow...colin u ole codger......its nearly 2 hours after ure bedtime
Report Andrew in Sweden November 21, 2014 6:09 PM GMT
ProTraderSam92    21 Nov 14 17:01 
Will be posting today's P&L after trading for 45 minutes shortly. At this point these updates are just to piss the haters off, it brings me joy


Laugh come back and post your P/L in 45 days
Report duncan idaho November 21, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
OP is mfordy (NAP)


i said the same earlier, Dr Gonzo...mfordy/windsor boy...there's just something about the tone...i thought the absence of said forumites was too good to last  Cry
Report Shanelee1966 November 21, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
1000 on the bounce Shocked who said well stockbrokers do it? No they can`t.
Report big aitch November 21, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
I tried to be polite to the pompous little pr1ck and his reply was,

I swing trade and scalp horse prices using software. It sounds like what you're doing is simply gambling?

If he has lost and won what is he doing if it isn't gambling? What a nob
Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 7:12 PM GMT

Nov 21, 2014 -- 7:06PM, big aitch wrote:


I tried to be polite to the pompous little pr1ck and his reply was,I swing trade and scalp horse prices using software. It sounds like what you're doing is simply gambling?If he has lost and won what is he doing if it isn't gambling? What a nob


Oi you little f*cker, if you can't fathom the difference between punting and trading you are a lost cause. I made £820 in 2 hours today, how did you do, little guy?

Report Thin and Crispy November 21, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
Until you can post a minimum of 3 months P/L don't bother trying to convince anybody of anything.
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:14 PM GMT
Sam you da maaaan

These clowns can't fathom it, they are jealous little people, enjoy the pot noodles tonight peeps, whilst Sam eats his 200 quid meal.
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
I'm coming up with a new way of winding the Job Centre staff up, no suit wearing clown is going to beat the Burger Man.

That's the difference between you little donks and me and sam, me and sam don't strive to be donks, we are free spirited.

Keep it up Sam ma man, you da man.

1 Sam
2 Zip
3 Burger Man
4 Big Mart

The above names are not donks, we are excellent people
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:18 PM GMT
he's not new

above is correct, he's a pr*ck
Report Thin and Crispy November 21, 2014 7:18 PM GMT
I bought a scratch card today. I won £500, so I'm now a Pro Gambler.
Report big aitch November 21, 2014 7:20 PM GMT
Sam, you are old enough to be my Grandson, so don't call me a little f*cker you plank.

You don't know the difference between punting and gambling, they always say employ a teenager while they know everything, I think we could stretch it to an immature 22 year old.

I don't doubt you have won a lot today as you will show when you post up the p&l you said you would a while ago
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:21 PM GMT
could be tbag given fartburger has arrived
Report freddiewilliams November 21, 2014 7:24 PM GMT
yourinthewill was a cracker sam....if only everyrace was like that one
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
Tbag was taken away from this forum by people like you Elise, a bully you are, a bully who then has the audacity to call me one simply because I don't take orders of suit wearers, I stand up for everyone else out there who is against suit wearers, I'm a voice and you don't like that.

Keep up the petty insults elise, keep on insulting me being "jobless" and being a "jobless shirking waste of space".. I stand up for my own morals pal, I ain't no donk, I don't lick suit wearers ar ses out.
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
if you can show me where i've called you a bully i will leave the forum, go ahead

however, you shouldn't have much trouble finding me calling you a thick ****
Report Dr Gonzo November 21, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
I stand up for everyone else out there who is against suit wearers

Just out of interest, how exactly do you do this standing up for everyone else?
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:38 PM GMT
he's like the wolfy smith of job club, then pops back to mum for tea
Report big aitch November 21, 2014 7:40 PM GMT
can you get him committed Doctor?
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:45 PM GMT
This is what speaking your mind does, it brings out the weak minded people Sam, it brings out the people who are too scared to believe the truth, they are too weak to stand up and be counted, WHY?!?!... Because they are scared of being to ssed aside by society, all of society have to think and act a certain way, if they don't they are ridiculed, its a sad place we live in but when I go 6 feet under, I go under having stayed true to myself, the ants and other bugs will be feasting on a pure dead body, not some su ck out sell out son of a bitch.

Suit wearing loving to ssers
Report stridingedge November 21, 2014 7:47 PM GMT
stayed true to yourself ROFL + LMFAO horseburger

you defend every bullsh1tting fantasist going Cry
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 7:47 PM GMT
Your post about Lydia Hislop a while back should how true you are to yourself you chidish pr1ck
Report Dr Gonzo November 21, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
Can I presume the answer to my question is "f*ck all", then?
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
The usual gang up from the forums bully boys. you see this behaviour in a school classroom/playground, they don't want to be the one being bullied, so join in with the rest of the circus, weak minded people is what they are, not got an ounce of courage the lot of them.
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
ive had enough of his tiresome rants about the jsa etc, time he got banned
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:52 PM GMT
elise - you know I've got you down to a tee, its why you want me banned, your a circus bully
Report elise November 21, 2014 7:55 PM GMT
nope, i just think you're an idiot who doesn't have the intelligence to realise you are the problem not society
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 7:58 PM GMT
I'm a genius, if society doesn't want a genius then sod it.

I see they've openend up another thread sla gging you off Sam, this is what they do ffs, they resort to petty insults, its all very sad, but... what do you expect from a bunch of cowards behind a computer screen.
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:00 PM GMT
And saying she was gagging for ut and calling her a bitch was the sign of a real man,

ffs has tgere ever been someone so deluded as you
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
And I forgot she makes me horny thread

fook off ya bellend
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 21, 2014 8:02 PM GMT
Me ^ConfusedHappy
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:02 PM GMT
I take you all on, go fetch koikeeper, banna, fetch them all, I don't mind taking the whole world on, the whole world is against me, I enjoy it
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:02 PM GMT
The t1t that is HB

im on it and he is getting it
Report elise November 21, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
just remind me, who signs on and has been sanctioned?
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
Careful elise thd truth hurts him, his only retort is the bully card,
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
They abused their power, someone gets a bit of power and it goes to their head, its sad, but that's the corporate world for you, they resort to abusing their power to beat you.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 21, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
Fook me william long time since of seen you like this.

ChargeeeeeeeeeeLove
Report Dr Gonzo November 21, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
I'm a genius, if society doesn't want a genius then sod it.

If you are such a genius, why aren't you doing something to benefit society with it, instead of wasting your life embarrassing yourself on this forum iyo?
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
He totally gets on my t1ts, a poor excuse for a man, not one you would want in the trenches dickie
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
Because I isn't easily bought like you Dr.
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
Huge chip on his shoulder DG,  the world owes him,
Report elise November 21, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
what will you do when you can't live with your mum wolfy?
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
I wouldn't join a war, I wouldn't fight for those suit wearing to ssers at Westminster
Report elise November 21, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
i take it you can't afford a suit then ?
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
I wouldn't be seen dead in suit, suits are the choice of clothing for tos sers and backstabbing bastards
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 21, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
Am off for a pint play niceDevil
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
Easily bought and you lot know it, its why I get abuse. Truth hurts
Report the dealer November 21, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
You gave to think he is not quite right, his life is passing him by, his acheivements in life zero.
Report elise November 21, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
do you ever feel that you exaggerate and generalise your views at all?
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
My achivements wont be zero though, I wont be signing on forever, I am learning at a rate of nots my friend Wink, moneymaker wont have anything on me when I'm done, and I'd have done it alone, without help, without friends, and it will be more the sweeter Happy
Report HorseBurger1989 November 21, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
I will have gone against the grain to do it, and it will be fun sticking it up to the tos sers
Report elise November 21, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
yep you have real principles, just wondering how those principles stand up to being unemployable and taking handouts

you really are the forum hero lol
Report gutfeeling November 21, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
he's like the wolfy smith of job club, then pops back to mum for tea

Post of the day imo Laugh
Report duncan idaho November 21, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
quelle surprise..windsor boy has posted on other threads today after not being heard of for months...coincidence?Tongue Out
Report ProTraderSam92 November 21, 2014 11:25 PM GMT

Nov 21, 2014 -- 7:45PM, HorseBurger1989 wrote:


This is what speaking your mind does, it brings out the weak minded people Sam, it brings out the people who are too scared to believe the truth, they are too weak to stand up and be counted, WHY?!?!... Because they are scared of being to ssed aside by society, all of society have to think and act a certain way, if they don't they are ridiculed, its a sad place we live in but when I go 6 feet under, I go under having stayed true to myself, the ants and other bugs will be feasting on a pure dead body, not some su ck out sell out son of a bitch. Suit wearing loving to ssers


Leave them to serve their Bourgeoisie owners and be glad you are not one of them

Report saddo November 21, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
Lol, your only ally is a racist imbecile, well done.
Report dukeofpuke November 22, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
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1.
something that actually exists; reality; truth:
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2.
something known to exist or to have happened:
"Space travel is now a fact."

3.
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something said to be true or supposed to have happened:
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Report dukeofpuke November 22, 2014 3:02 AM GMT
a 4 letter word
Report Koo.... November 22, 2014 10:04 AM GMT
this isnt really upto tim_uk standard
Report Andrew in Sweden November 22, 2014 10:54 AM GMT
It's not up to any standard, just a couple of clueless guessers having a wind-up
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