Tabor was not "best pleased" to put it mildly.
However,the "Team" are far too clever to make public criticism of a truly awful ride.
I expect JOB(who is clearly struggling with his weight) to be replaced at the end of the Season.

Swap the riders and Australia wins by a length or two. And you would be looking at a horse close to the credentials of Sea The Stars.

And before the `Sea The Stars would beat Australia out of sight` comments arrive, lets just remember that Trading Leather, Mukhadram and Al Kazeem would be 5/6/7L behind but all knocking on just around the 118 mark.

Sea The Stars was beating the likes of Rip Van Winkle, Mastercraftsman, Fame and Glory. Kingston Hill looks like a Fame And Glory type to me, so i think the form of Australia is still close to Sea The Stars at the same stage in their careers if we believe JOB cost Australia at least 2L in the Irish.

A_T

You mean show similar form as beating Youmzain, Cavalryman, Conduit by a couple of lengths? Yes he was in a pocket and won well, but i would fancy Australia to beat those horses in similar fashion.

STS was a great going into the Arc ,had won everything and needed to win to prove beyond all doubt ,there is no STS in this years field .

STS won the arc from a bad draw after sweating up badly ,he also nearly got caught in a pocket .

Before the Arc dont think  STS had  sweated and although he pulled a bit he settled in his 2k and Derby so the Arc win was very impressive after a long season .

2k, derby ,eclipse,international , irish champion and arc ....no STS in this years race .

Always wondered how far STS could have won the arc but i did not appreciate the state the horse was in ,his class carried him through ,this is what separates the good from the great and thats  horses and trainers.

was chuffed for MK as it was close to being a disaster and us punters would not have swallowed the sweated up ballux 

Dear God,there are some clueless morons on here

I was referring to the OP's opinion that Australia was a 5/6 chance
Due to a ride of monumental incompetence he fluked his Lay.
Then idiots tried to say the ride made no difference to the result
Will they do for starters?

I never said he was better than Australia AG ,i said there was no STS in the race this year,let the ratings sort  that out BUT i think STS is better fwiw

as in a horse who had already  stamped his authority and was in the race with everything to lose ,winning the Arc stamped him as a great imo .

and winning after sweating and taking a fierce hold also said a lot about the trainer and jockey .

APO ran a herd against STS in the derby ,they all had a go from the front and back .....dont forget taht

he beat RVW off there as well ,anyhoss who can beat 6 of bally-D,s in the Derby is worth a second look

APO had  half the field of 12 against STS in derby

Sonko

It did have a clear run. It was the racing line that was all over the place.

STS had almost the perfect 3yo season. He beat every horse who might have been considered a rival - nothing could get within a length of him over a mile, 10 or 12 - he never "touched off" any horse he won comfortably every time.

Australia's one of the best Derby winners of recent years - but he's not in Sea The Stars' league and will need to do a fair bit more to be considered so.

Galileo had the assistance of Kinane when he got beaten at 4/11 in the Irish Champion.

Does that prove Kinane was no better than JOB?

It proves hotpots get beat in the Irish Champion Stakes.

The Irish Champion always throws up something amazing and this year's race was no different. Joseph didn't ride a bumbling incompetent race, Moore pulled off something amazing on the Grey Gatsby.

Australia isn't even the best 3yo this year - let alone of the same calibre as Sea The Stars.

Australia has it by 1lb over Kingman A_T on official ratings does he not?

Galileo won more races over 10f than Australia has.

The Grey Gatsby is a Dante winner and Classic winner over 10f. I'd say that makes him a specialist 10f Group 1 champion. Australia was pipped on the line so he must also have actually run a great race.

Yes you could possibly say that hippie, but the problem with the comparison is that

a) Galileo had not previously shown any dominance over 10f against Fantastic Light( only over 12f )
b) Australia had shown dominance over The Great Gatsby over 10f in the International Stakes at York.

Did anyone accuse Kinane for poor judgement in defeat? i can`t remember, but i doubt it. Fantastic Light was prolific at around the 10f distance with a rating of 130. The price was all together wrong, but people expected(or hoped) Galileo to be as dominant over 10f as he was at 12f.

However saying this Frankie did take it up 2f out on Fantastic Light when you would have expected the horse with more stamina to be stretching them from the front at that stage.

Hindsight is a great thing, but i think it proved over 10f Galileo was compromised by being ridden the same way as when racing over 12f.

He finished with a OR of 130.
With 6 Group 1 victories.

Hardly a reinvention hippie.

He was very good over 12f but no match for Montjeu or Galileo.

Yet over 10/11f he won 6 G1 races from the age of 4. Nothing beat him, Kalanisi couldn`t get within 2L.

He was the best 10f horse around. A Champion.