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By:
differentdrum
When: 18 Aug 14 21:38
Love clowns like Steadman to explain what exactly they mean by 'punter friendly handicaps'.

Bookmakers know if they get a few results in the condition races the handicaps will take care of themselves.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 21:49
not sure neesom is that good based on records i kept of his RP tipping a few years ago
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 21:58
Presenters are not there to tip winners (lucky for them).
The day I ever look to one to help me find a winner will be a first.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 22:05
if you are going to rate a pundit its easily done by recording their selections,hth
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 22:11
If you need a "pundit" to help you there is no hope for you.
This will help youHappy
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 22:16
racingstar i was replying to the pinhooker regarding how good neesom is as a tipster, you seem to have make a few assumptions to suit your cause
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 22:19
I have no cause,rider.
Sorry if I offended you.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 22:20
no cause! lol, ok racingstar
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 22:28
If you are referring to the choice between RUK and the shambles that are ATR I certainly have a "view" which I am happy to debate,rider.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 22:31
that argument has done the rounds since long before you joined this forum
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 22:32
but no that wasnt 'the cause' i was laughing at
By:
paul the b
When: 18 Aug 14 22:38
Why do we need so many of them for a start?
It would seem that racing has gone the same way as most other sports......just because they played it tv producers believe this is a recipe to make a marvellous presenter for some inexplicable reason.( Just because they can talk a bit does not make them give good in- depth reasoning ).
This is fately flawed from the start, as they will not criticise their mates for fear of falling out with them...ie Mick Fitz. Therefore the viewer is constantly irritated by them for not giving an impartial and balanced argument for poor rides etc etc.
The whole racing game is totally incestuous and it has to be said, until this mould is broken this same long standing argument will roll on and on forever.
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 22:42
There are infinitely less chuffer lickers on RUK,Paul.
The day you ever hear Fitz criticise a "hideous ride" by a top jockey will never dawn.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 18 Aug 14 23:21
Lots of losers given in a convincing voice of authority
just to keep the bookmakers happyExcited
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 23:31
"Chuffer lickers" - an apt and amusing turn of phrase but a most unappealing vista.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 19 Aug 14 09:35
Rider. Is there any single RUK. or ATR racing pundit who, from statistical evidence, falls into the "profitable" category?
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Aug 14 09:44
They are so busy running up and down the country and booking in and out
of hotels they have little time to study form and little time to socialize
Most rely on what trainers and jockey's tell them in fleeting conversations.
they can't possibly win on the nags...
By:
DUNERUNNER
When: 19 Aug 14 09:54
On a specialist racing channel are there any need for presenters?

Although a few viewers may need some "help" with their selections, the vast majority will have their own "view".

Why not:

Horses in paddock.
Going down to the start.
Betting / exchange show.
Race.
Reply.
Head on.
Winners enclosure.

Do we really need more?
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 19 Aug 14 09:57
Dune. In a word, no.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 19 Aug 14 10:05
Really they crave to be better at picking winners than the general public
but I know one personally and he often ignores my advice when I tell him my
fancies for big races based on really superb form lines and instead picks one
with little chance because he has talked to a trainer.He never gets mentioned
on any threads on here but is a really nice Guy if you know him.
By:
Ramruma
When: 19 Aug 14 10:55
@Dunerunner -- Do we really need more?

Try watching a day's racing on mute.

No-one will follow the pundits' tips blind but it is good to have them discussing the race and they may give me a piece of information I'd been unaware of, or make me look at known information in a new light.

Ironically, it is when watching racing alongside other people that I'd most like the pundits to shut up.
By:
Rider
When: 19 Aug 14 11:15

Aug 19, 2014 -- 9:35AM, The Pinhooker wrote:


Rider. Is there any single RUK. or ATR racing pundit who, from statistical evidence, falls into the "profitable" category?


when I kept records of all the RP spotlight tipsters neesom was no better than mid div, just to put his punditry in context, a few did show a profit and the ROI% went up when adding a bit of extra work myself

By:
Rider
When: 19 Aug 14 11:18
getting statistics on ruk waffle would be near impossible, atr i havent watched in ages
By:
mandarin
When: 19 Aug 14 11:25
I'd like more cleavage
By:
Virgin
When: 19 Aug 14 11:29
exactly Love
By:
parispike
When: 19 Aug 14 11:34
Why not:

Horses in paddock.
Going down to the start.
Betting / exchange show.
Race.
Reply.
Head on.
Winners enclosure.

Do we really need more
?

A replay would be preferable to a reply Mischief but broadly that's all I want.
By:
Rider
When: 19 Aug 14 11:45
after many years of tearing my hair out over not showing horses to post i'm pretty convinced this is policy
By:
Clerkmore
When: 19 Aug 14 13:47
If you wish to know what is not required, switch to ATR now!
By:
Clerkmore
When: 19 Aug 14 13:48
I mean in the studio, by the way.
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