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parispike
16 Aug 14 14:06
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on a specialist channel I mean.

1. Ability to be able to say "We're over to xxxxxxxx now for the 4.30. Here's the betting show.
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I can't think of anything else.

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By:
nellie1970
When: 16 Aug 14 14:10
an opinion and ask the difficult questions when required
By:
theres only one best tonic
When: 16 Aug 14 14:14
ability to say what an emotional moment this is as fergal returns on his first winner in britain for ten years
By:
loper
When: 16 Aug 14 14:24
1 continued..................and YOUR favourite is.......

Its NOT my phuucking favourite, ffs!

2) We owe YOU the result of the last race.

PHuuck off! You owe me phuck all.
By:
nellie1970
When: 16 Aug 14 14:30
to be of a different colour than white
By:
loper
When: 16 Aug 14 14:35
4. Not to be patronising.

This would appear to be an elusive quality.
By:
differentdrum
When: 16 Aug 14 20:41
1. Don't upset your fellow presenter.
2. Pretend that your fellow presenter is amusing.
3. Pretend that you are watching the best card ever even if it consists of five handicaps and a seller.
4. Have an exhaustive list of excuses why a horse ran badly that never involve criticising either jockey or trainer.
5. Be ready to drop in regular comments about breeding and pace angles.
6. Pretend to be interested in viewer's emails.
7. But most all to be of no use to the punter whatsoever.
By:
chelsea girl
When: 16 Aug 14 21:00
Sounds like an ex Irish jumps jockey now on CH4

Shirley not.Mischief
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 16 Aug 14 21:06
Shocked
By:
unbiased
When: 17 Aug 14 17:01
Not to CONTINUALLY talk in a stupid voice,and gabble his sentences,like S Boyce.Dire presenter!!!
By:
Cork Langer
When: 17 Aug 14 17:07
Be quite happy with no presenter, just the pictures would suffice, even more so if the time delay was shortened for us all
By:
Virgin
When: 17 Aug 14 17:10
1. (.)(.)

anything else is a bonus
By:
seaview
When: 17 Aug 14 18:25
Suffer from verbal diarrhoea syndrome.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 18 Aug 14 08:57
To be having to hold down a dozen further jobs within racing in order to pay for the professional punting
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 10:43
Although I put this up as a jokey thread it's actually quite a serious matter.

I'm talking about specialist channels, especially in the case of RUK where a subscription has to be paid ffs. We have a situation where

- most viewers don't respect or take any notice of the views of (almost all)  pundits

- these pundits and presenters are paid a healthy whack

- our subscriptions have to pay for them

- most of the presenters/pundits are also on the payroll of bookmakers who won't take a bet from anyone who shows the slightest evidence of a brain cell or two

- the fawning over b/m reps is odious in the extreme
By:
millhouse
When: 18 Aug 14 10:52
An inanimate carbon rod would be a better option in virtually all circumstances, imho...
By:
duncan idaho
When: 18 Aug 14 11:09
nellie1970
16 Aug 14 14:30

to be of a different colour than white


Yeah, i'm really struggling to think of any white racing presenters left in this crazy PC-sport Crazy

*****
By:
Ramruma
When: 18 Aug 14 11:25
@parispike -- these pundits and presenters are paid a healthy whack

I don't suppose they are destitute but I'd be surprised if most of the ATR/RUK types are on more than two or three hundred a day, and maybe not even that.
By:
differentdrum
When: 18 Aug 14 15:43
Before we get the violins out how many have just one source of income? I suspect just about zero.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 18 Aug 14 15:50
It's well paid compared with many jobs in life. But appearing on television engenders a profound sense of insecurity - just like any other branch of the entertainment industry.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 16:20
seeing as most of them are attention seekers who love the camera to tell us their oh so important opinion then maybe they should have this factored into their fee and take a cut
By:
duncan idaho
When: 18 Aug 14 16:22
people who avoid camera and keep opinions to themselves not ideal for tv punditry gig, rider, you nugget
By:
adamski
When: 18 Aug 14 16:29
parispike's 10.43 post is spot on.

Steadman to Shinners earlier "Plenty of punter friendly big field handicaps at York"

Lots of these pundits keep coming up with great each way bets to nothing with an odds on fav in the field. Where do they get their each way bets on?

Most of them can't bet much.

2 or 3 hundred a day is pretty good pay to me, certainly a lot more than they're worth.
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 16:29
Laugh
By:
knot in wood
When: 18 Aug 14 16:29
i wonder what would be the outcome if you offered:

1-paddock shots,going down and race with 1 presenter in studio.

2-same as presently-pundits,bookies reps etc.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 16:30
actually after i wrote that i wish i could have had 1.01 the apologist would suddenly appear, lol , i should have said their oh so important sit on the fence opinions as all they do is waffle

but despite the attempted smoke screen the point remains they are attention seeking losers who  need the camera partly for money and partly to make up their much needed quota for the day
By:
themover
When: 18 Aug 14 16:38

Aug 17, 2014 -- 5:10PM, Virgin wrote:


1. (.)(.)anything else is a bonus


+1

By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 16:38
knot in wood, yes, miss out the middle man (the gravytrain) and split the cost saving between the viewer and the tracks meaning more money goes back into racing, but unfortunately we dont have the choice, so what does the apologist have to say about that?
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 16:40
at what, racingstar?
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 16:45
That was at Duncan's post,paris.
By:
Rider
When: 18 Aug 14 16:46
sure it wasnt the side effects of your medication
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 16:54
Ok, racingstar
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 16:55
knot in wood 18 Aug 14 16:29 Joined: 05 Nov 08 | Topic/replies: 4,316 | Blogger: knot in wood's blog
i wonder what would be the outcome if you offered:

1-paddock shots,going down and race with 1 presenter in studio.

2-same as presently-pundits,bookies reps etc.

I have no doubt as to the outcome!
By:
knot in wood
When: 18 Aug 14 17:06
not so sure parispike,imagine some people like the pundits etc.
By:
racingstar
When: 18 Aug 14 17:09
RUK want the verminous Reps as much as the rest of us.
However,in the real World,they are financially obliged to let the lying Rodents come on daily to spout their utter nonsense.
Would you prefer it was £40 per month without them (I would).
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 18 Aug 14 17:12
Knot. Maybe some people do like pundits. But look what's happened to C4 Racing viewing figures since they have filled the screen with non-stop talking heads.
By:
knot in wood
When: 18 Aug 14 17:16
i agree pinhooker,most of them put me in a coma.
By:
parispike
When: 18 Aug 14 18:59
There probably is a role for some punditry but it needs to be aligned to the audience profile.

Some spotty 25 year old oik who pontificates as if he knows the game inside out whereas in fact he/she is learning the ropes ain't going to provide that...

I value the view (but might disagree with it on occasion) of

Neesom
Fremantle

and that's about it. Given the number of pundits here there and everywhere that's pretty pathetic for specialist channels
By:
duffy
When: 18 Aug 14 19:12
Always nauseating stuff when shinners is on, I swear he fancies himself as some sort of smart ar5e comic...him and bell were on the other day wishing each other a happy holiday as they both go off to malta.....I urged so much at that, that I tore my stomach lining right off.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 18 Aug 14 19:26
Neesom(NH) and Fremantle are head and shoulders above the others because they have a genuine interest and have done their time on the racecourse.

I get the impression that some presenters learn their lines by studying various websites before turning up in the studio.
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