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07 Aug 14
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Dear oh dear. A disgusting ride
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What on earth was that?
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What on earth was that?
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Bet your live someone did!
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A disgusting man............... Soon the better he foo k s of f
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MID-Race 'in-running' prices ...
BEFORE the late Charge. 8.00 £125 8.20 £93 8.40 £24 8.60 £18 8.80 £10 9.00 £104 9.20 £6 9.40 £2 9.80 £22 10.00 £1,085 10.50 £11 11.00 £71 11.50 £151 12.00 £6 13.00 £129 14.00 £20 15.50 £2 16.00 £107 16.50 £10 17.00 £46 18.00 £53 19.00 £0 19.50 £1 20.00 £411 21.00 £88 22.00 £19 24.00 £134 25.00 £6 26.00 £127 27.00 £14 28.00 £175 29.00 £11 30.00 £27 32.00 £481 34.00 £1 38.00 £4 40.00 £55 44.00 £4 46.00 £20 48.00 £16 50.00 £12 55.00 £25 60.00 £10 65.00 £3 70.00 £7 80.00 £9 90.00 £1 95.00 £1 100.00 £11 |
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To be fair he could have given up the ghost 2 out the horse was going up and own. Why did they leave the head gear off? shirly would have won with them on.
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Hilarious stuff. A 5 page reply on why it was a great ride to follow no doubt.
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Matt you're obviously reading this after your comments on ATR
Surely it is your job to question it, you certainly would if it was a young apprentice, why not Fallon? |
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the writing was on the wall a long way out yet fallon waited until the winner was gone before going for the whip strange
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Bit smelly that I got the impression that Fallon was play acting half the time a few of those cracks looked like air shots, when the horse started to run on Fallon sat still and then seemed to push again all very strange but if you lose trust in a jockey these things always look suspicious.
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Even Lynch would heave been proud of that...
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Oh ffs behave, this place gets more and more ridiculous every day.
 Just a little clue here but a race doesn't just mean the final 100 yards or so and the horse never went a yard on the surface from the start and Fallon did well to persevere for as long as he did and get it as close as he did, because many others would have given up coming off the final bend and he's practically being condemned for actually trying. Maybe he should have just coasted home in his own time off the bend, been beaten out of sight and then nobody would bat an eyelid.....Actually it's Fallon we are talking about here so scrub that last part as someone somehow will have found a way of making it his fault regardless. |
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loads of dodgy goings on today that just the worst if Matt spoke the truth he be sacked but he knows it stinks
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He is a fook ing sc u m b ag, always was. A great jockey when he wants too, but his devious ways ruins that.
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Embarrassing Matt. You'd find the time if it was a smaller name
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5 wide for as much as he could, then Fallon was looking for the distance of the leaders turning in, and only went for the horse just as it popped off the screen, interesting. Most likely the pension plan was secured there!! Definitely his last season id say.
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Agree with that king kev from the toon, but you can bet your bottom dollar if it was a youngster he'd be all over it like a tramp on a fish supper
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Can`t comment anymore , FAL lOVER has joined in.
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ima you are talking total and utter nonsense
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Clearly a suspect ride.
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Fallon to train next year with Lynch and Ahern as his stable jockeys?
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I wish someone could have flagged up the plan having laid it in running.
Wasn't pleasant viewing. |
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I suppose Fallon is an easy target with his history of alleged corruption, adultery, drinking and drugs. Seems a nice guy when he's interviewed. I hope he writes a no holes barred book when he retires so we get to find out the truth and the fabrications.
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what are you lot suggesting went on? they laid it? they backed it? it was poor but the horse was shot then everything in front of it stopped and it got a second wind
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I'm glad Betfair's forum exists though as if I'm ever feeling a bit down it's great value for a laugh from clueless posters like easygold and if he thinks that ride was dodgy then that's good enough to bold, underline and increase the font size up a dozen notches that it was anything but.
Are you aware of the effect of surface kickback at Southwell Chonaic or do you think it's a good idea to race in behind runner's slipstreams and get the full brunt of it into your horse's face? It also makes no difference going 5 wide when racing in a straight line and he tucked inside on the bends and wasn't going 5 wide then or at various other stages of the race. If people take the blinkers off (no pun intended) they will see that before today the horse was still a maiden after 5 runs, didn't run as a 2YO so was clearly backward or had some physical problem, its career trips in those 5 runs have been 7f, 7f, 7f, 10f and 12f, they've already resorted to cheek pieces in only its 4th start and blinkers in it's 5th (no headgear on today and it shown straight from the off) and shown its best form with 2nds in its last two starts (BF last time) on Good ground and Good to Firm ground. So now today it's going 1m6f for the first time, trying the surface for the first time which is notoriously slow and probably suits soft ground runners better and as already mentioned it had no headgear on today and just for good measure is draw widest of all in stall 7 from 7 runners, so what exactly are people expecting, Fallon to blast out from the off and set out to make all with so many unknown factors involved? But yeah anyway, in the week that Fergal Lynch gets his licence back and so this kind of thing is red hot in the news, Fallon deliberately gets a horse beaten like that. Anyone want to suggest just out of interest was the trainer in on it too by the way or an innocent party? Why even book Fallon either way for that matter? |
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Got to be honest that was half a length away from everyone saying what a fantastic ride it was.
He's got himself 4 days for overuse so I think there'd have been easier ways to have non jigged. |
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There is nothing illegal about trying to get maximum odds on your horse by backing it mid-race after giving it a mountain to climb. Effectively giving the others a 10 or 20-length start.
The plan didn't work out but it's not the first time this has been done and it won't be the last. The horse was trying to win but wasn't asked a question until the straight. Fallon was over confident. |
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would'nt touch him, or any horses he's riding, with a 20 foot barge pole.
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Marcce, very true, But some of us have a long memory of young Fallon. I was one of the mugs that bet against Top Cees when it hosed up and backed it when it fell in a hole.The Lads on here all knew Betfair Eddy was at it but it took the BHA years to catch up with him so we are not all idiots.
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A very true post - georgebakerfanclub
But you should have added Mother Kelly's son, too .... - along with Fellon's best pal - the one with the Shotgun. |
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I hate to say this but for once I agree with Ima
 The horse looks a dodgepot and a not very good one at that, if you're betting odds on at Southwell good luck Fallon maybe should have got off and carried the horse??? |
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TRD.Racing 07 Aug 14 20:28
ima you are talking total and utter nonsense. Yeah of course I am and why bother taking me to task specifically and putting me in my place over any of that so called nonsense when you can just post a meaningless and totally worthless generic comment instead? I wonder why that is eh? Well let me see if I can help you here if what I posted that was apparently nonsense. Just a little clue here but a race doesn't just mean the final 100 yards Obviously true as horses can get outpaced early on and then stay on at the finish over a distance when others up front are tiring and it can make it look like the jockey gave it too much to do. the horse never went a yard on the surface from the start Again true as Fallon was getting after the horse from very early on and it ran in snatches. Fallon did well to persevere for as long as he did and get it as close as he did, because many others would have given up coming off the final bend and he's practically being condemned for actually trying. True once again as he looked at stages during the race as if he wouldn't even make the frame let alone go close to winning and others in the race actually did give up early and stop riding. Maybe he should have just coasted home in his own time off the bend, been beaten out of sight and then nobody would bat an eyelid.....Actually it's Fallon we are talking about here so scrub that last part as someone somehow will have found a way of making it his fault regardless. OK maybe that first part could be considered nonsense going by this place but I think I provided a caveat just in case. Something else to take into consideration too is Johnny Murtagh won the previous race with his 5lb claimer on it and yet chose to book Fallon for Bwindi and there's probably a very good reason for that as Fallon has that busy riding style from early on and this horse is clearly quirky and needs plenty of stoking up. It's also very rare for Fallon to get a whip ban too as he's usually the first to start pushing and one of the last to go for the whip and that should be enough for anyone with an open mind and without an agenda to see things genuinely for how they are. Oh and btw, which jockey won this race anyway and is he still not riding well this season? |
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I happen to agree with you ima but fear your flogging a dead horse
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horse looked like and ran like a pig,off the bridle early and maybe did not like the kick back,
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Wouldnt have happened on any other course. How many times have you seen one going from cantering to going up and down on the one spot, or one being tailed off and running on at the death. For what its worth I think he really thought he was well beat but the ones in front stopped and his mount eventually decided to run on. Nothing more in my opinion.
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ima your race reading skills really are laughable. If you think what you have written is what happened I will leave you to it
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Ahhhhh a Fav gets beat thread
 Nothing gets a thread going like a Fav getting beat  |
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Do you people really bet at that shathole?
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