Richard Hughes on Beacon

thats goodwood

My tip is don't back shorties and let it go, back it when the money comes, watch it get backed in, green up and get out.

Nothing wrong with the ride

good old dickie h always comes too late

That tip is free lads, the genius is giving it away today.

Nothing wrong with the ride  ,how much u lay it for ?

Comical ride imo

was on the best horse and lost...only the jockey to blame imho

to be fair
that was poor
even jock would like that again
as for easygold you have some front posting that

These things happen but why don`t C4 just admit Hughes made a bollocks.

The horse got checked in its run by the 2nd and then had to stop-start and pull around the other two and was just bad luck in running but that's race riding. If the 2nd stayed straight it wouldn't have been a problem but no doubt according to some shrewdies on here it's Hughes's fault for er "putting" his horse in a place to be be checked.

Presumably merely having your horse on the course itself can lead to that unless people want jockeys to be psychic too?

got boxed twice.  should have taken him out wider earlier.  typical Hughes trying to get too cute

doesn't seem that they even noticed themightymac. outpaced apparently

Why don't they interview Losing Jockeys ?

on the best horse so keep it out of trouble would be my advice

I agree with Easygold. You have to expect trouble with a huge field like that. Getting a clean run through all those runners is vitually impossible.....especially on a tight track like Gooodwood. I mean, what a crap ride the winner was given.

Lol slipstreaming his beaten stable mate for ten stides....clever Dick.

Can you believe the idiocy of a few on here trying to justify Hughes ride on Beacon....what a load of complete and utter numpties.

won its last race with a clear run in the final 1-2 furlongs.  why did he think he needed to keep him covered throughout the whole race.  clown

If you get to understand...... pace and tracks, and taking form from one track to another, split decisions at 40mph. U blame the jockey,

The horse was just not speedie enough to take the gap, Sandown vs Goodwood, there is ur answer. Opinions, no one can change them.

As yes, I have a problem with Hughes not trying for the place........ this is a total different scenario.

Winners done it well no complaints ,but if that's the Best Hughes can do ,he should be fxcked off out of it ....

Some people just like arguing Basil. It's sad

No ima he should have been in the clear well before, as he was sitting holding on to his horse behind his beaten stable mate. 
Had he switched earlier as he should have late in the race with ground to make up he wouldnt have been beaten.  Brainless ride
cocky or stupid I'm not sure!

I think your right starfish....eejits on here just like defending the impossible, no doubt the same people defend the various extremist muslim groups who are hacking peoples heads off all round the world.

According to C4 it was all over after a furlong ,fxck me they must get the fxcking lot in running

Going between horses at any course can always go t@its up,at Goodwood it's almost a certainty it will go t@its up. He should have just switched out wide. The horse needs 6f so any hampering and being stopped in it's run was always going to prove fatal

brockville-huge field
there were 8 runners
c..k

Winner cruised it. Best horse won.

Finished like a train when it was pulled out didn't it? Can see why people are sure he'd have won.

Jul 29, 2014 -- 2:49PM, Akak wrote:

Winner cruised it. Best horse won.

May or may not have won, debatable. That however, is not the point.

The problem with the likes of Hughes and Spencer is that they are NEVER happy just winning on a good horse they have to try and look clever, its an ego trip, Beacon head and shoulders the best horse in the race and he gets it beat, owners must be livid.

i just think jock messed up overconfident
as for winner only won by 1/2 a length
so result is questionable

Nothing went right for Hughes and I think he was on the best horse in the race, though that is only my opinion.
You can't finish like a train in a 5f sprint if you are hampered twice in the final furlong, so that comment was fatuous or ignorant.
Maybe we can debate that too?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with that formboy but it's easy for us with the benefit of hindsight once we know how things pan out but jockeys don't have that luxury.

The point I was making was not what he could have done but what he did do and I didn't think he did anything wrong and would have ridden that race plenty of times before and come through the gap when it hasn't closed on him and wasn't checked in his run and it was that alone that cost him the race. Had the 2nd stayed straight it wouldn't even be an issue but I don't really want my jockey riding his race worrying about what might or might not happen with another horse.

Bad luck in running via not being psychic as I said.

Congratulations Rewired your post wins.........another braincell.

huge field 8 runners
you posted that
did you even watch race
HUGE

BROCKS POST
I agree with Easygold. You have to expect trouble with a huge field like that. Getting a clean run through all those runners is vitually impossible.....especially on a tight track like Gooodwood. I mean, what a crap ride the winner was given.BlushConfused

Lol, sorry I only seen the last half furlong....what happened?

Keep digging lads.....p/iss poor ride, end of story.

let's hope he gets lucky on Toormore...of course if he does then he'll be the best jockey in the world again

8 runners, straight 5 furlongs, and Hughes finds more trouble than a Christian in Mosil....eejit.

You can't finish like a train in a 5f sprint if you are hampered twice in the final furlong, so that comment was fatuous or ignorant.
Maybe we can debate that too?

Some people are saying he was clearly the best horse in the race. The clear best horse in the race didn't have the pace to get into a position unlike the winner and when he did get room he hardly quickened up in the style of a horse who had a lot in hand over the rest of them.

I'm guessing brockville was being ironic in that post rewired.

Those saying Hughes should have switched to the outside earlier are obviously saying so with the benefit of hindsight but let's just say he did and the 2nd drifted the opposite way and bumped him or carried him off a true line then I wonder what people would have been saying then?

My money's on that he should have stayed where he was!

blew it on Toormore as well

Went too early their, hope you're all happy

at least he kept it out of trouble...just the timing to sort out now

im not sure anything would have beaten this one
traveled really well

Two odds on pokes beaten in the last 2 races at Glorious Goodwood, the common denominator is...........You got it, Richard VVanker Hughes, both very poor rides.

Thank you Ima, granted its taken 7431 posts but you've finally talked some sense on a Jockey slating thread....well done

My god , u guy`s having a clue............. Toormore, is not the same horse as last year.......

brock maybe if you posted an actual comment on the race
instead of trying to be ultra sarcastic
maybe people would take you serious
maybe....

IMO hughes made the crucial mistake at the start of the race, he got swamped by the other runners and was behind a wall of horses,
race was over the winner never stopped form start to finish, should of been more positive and tracked the winner form the start,
that horse broke the fastest and was the one to track, he chose to hold his horse back instead and for me that was the crucial mistake
he made in the race.

No problem brockville.

Not sure Hughes was at fault on Toormore either and was just beaten by the better horse on the day and nothing to do with  not being the same horse as last year and I seem to remember that being said by someone about Treve too until it turned out she wasn't right on the day and on another day the winner wouldn't have got a run and a luck with the splits and then we would have seen plenty on here blaming Kirby for that too.

7f is a bit of a hybrid distance and you never really know if it will be the milers or sprinters coming out best and Toormore hasn't run at the trip since his last 2YO start and for those saying Hughes went too soon, what would they have been saying if he sat waiting until late and then as a miler got done for speed by a sprinter?

We are all tactical geniuses after the event.

Rewired.

Maybe there are to many people taking themselves to seriously
maybe...

lol....

Track suited winner if they bet 4/1 and odds on the fav on speed tracks you'd be backing the second fav all day long!!

To be honest I'm not too sure the straight 5f course they raced up from the stalls positioned where they were made the track an issue, compared to the uphill/downhill and camber parts of the course when they have to cope with when over longer trips and taking the bend.

These faster 5fs only suit certain horses,the hannon horse would find trouble there everytime as just can't go that early pace so would always come unstuck at least once or twice making the 4/1 the bet all the time,if it had been ascot probably would've won a length.

Do you bet in running ima_mazed?

Occasionally Colonel Trautman but more often than not over longer trips where I either spot one I think is going well and the likely winner or spot one early that I think it about to struggle and come under pressure.

And just to keep everyone happy when saying I always bring Fallon into a thread without fail, I've done well over the years backing him in running when he's been one of the first to start scrubbing alone but then built up momentum late on. I've obviously got it wrong at times too but when he starts niggling away early his price can drift to silly figures, so you can still afford to lose a fair few as long as you get a decent one every now and again.

I got him at 76.0 I think from memory in the 2000gns.

Did anyone else hear Hughes admit his bad ride on Beacon on Ch4 today? Fair play to him when he makes a mistake he's big enough to admit it, not like most top jocks or Ima

Of course he would admit messing the race up on Beacon, because that's exactly what he did, he would have told the trainer/connections he messed up as soon as he got in the paddock. Jockeys cant make mistakes like that without explaining themselves. Its only the fecking eejits on here who cant tell a good ride from a bad one.

Ima is a clueless nobody, as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race, some people on here should be hung drawn and quartered for writing such nonsense.

I wonder how many winners you have ridden,Basil.
The smart money is on FA

Ive seen cleverer things being flushed down my loo, Im a fox not a jockey. Boom Boom

I wish I had  Hughes' mobile I could have rang him and told him several experts on here said he rode a perfectly adequate race

slowerthanjohn     31 Jul 14 19:30 
Did anyone else hear Hughes admit his bad ride on Beacon on Ch4 today? Fair play to him when he makes a mistake he's big enough to admit it, not like most top jocks or Ima.

Any chance of a verbatim reproduction of what he actually said? Plus what am I supposed to be admitting I'm wrong about?

basilbrush     31 Jul 14 20:25 
Ima is a clueless nobody, as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race, some people on here should be hung drawn and quartered for writing such nonsense.

I can assure you that I'd lose you and find you again on most subjects but the fact you had to add in "as are the other few who couldn't see that Hughes rode a bad race" shows I'm not alone in taking an alternative view (even though I actually didn't say either way if it was a good or bad ride) and a bet you would struggle to accurately reproduce and interpret what I did actually say anyway.

The only place you'd lose and find anyone is the arrogance stakes you basically said he was unlucky and didn't ride a bad race? Hughes didn't agree end of

Race 2 - 2:30pm THE bet365 MOLECOMB STAKES (CLASS 1) (Group 3)
The Stewards held an enquiry under Rule (B)11.6 into possible interference approaching the furlong marker. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race they found that FAST ACT (IRE), placed second, ridden by Jamie Spencer, had interfered with BEACON, placed third, ridden by Richard Hughes. They found the interference was accidental and had not improved FAST ACT (IRE)’s placing. They ordered the placings to remain unaltered.


There appeared to be a gap there initially, and Hughes was entitled to go for it, but Spencer's mount drifted left and cut him off at the pass, so to speak. I think Hughes was entitled to try and race in straight line, rather than yank his mount to the outer at the earliest possible opportunity. I appreciate it made for painful viewing for anyone who backed Beacon, but imo Hughes was unlucky rather than being at fault, on this occasion.

But Hughes has admitted on C4 that he made a mess of riding it !

Facts you are wasting your time some people are so pig headed and superior they will not listen even when the man in question admits he rode a poor race! What can you do? I had no financial interest in the race just watched it and Hughes did ride a poor race and like I said he was big enough to admit. Some people on here have the attitude that they are right even when they are wrong

Ima will be here soon to explain why Richard Hughes was wrong imo