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29 Apr 14 17:07
Date Joined: 25 Jan 02
| Topic/replies: 834 | Blogger: henke's blog
I see there is a free to air ATR on 7E that is the exact same content as sky ATR but 4 secs in front

how can that be
the excuse  when they slowed it down a few years ago was that it was because of the satellite they were using
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Report dustybin April 29, 2014 5:08 PM BST
Its a scandal imo
Report tips April 29, 2014 5:10 PM BST
whats 7E?
Report dustybin April 29, 2014 5:10 PM BST
so they CAN do it henke?
Ill bet they let slip putting it up unencryped
Report henke April 29, 2014 5:14 PM BST
Eutelsat 7A (7.0°E)   

Frequency: 11192 - Pol: V - SR: 3255 -
Report bilbobaggins April 29, 2014 5:17 PM BST
That is disgusting - I wish somebody in the racing media would kick up a stink about this.
Report tips April 29, 2014 5:18 PM BST
what a pity they cant do this on atr make life so much easier Shocked
Report dustybin April 29, 2014 5:19 PM BST
so its got the ATR graphics on it......thats odd
Report henke April 29, 2014 5:19 PM BST
they can Devil
Report starfish and coffee April 29, 2014 5:23 PM BST
Not only can they show it they have DELIBERATELY went out of their way to slow it down then
Report kd109 April 29, 2014 5:26 PM BST
Can you tune this in on a sky box?
Report tips April 29, 2014 5:27 PM BST
Report TRD.Racing April 29, 2014 5:29 PM BST
Everyone knows that ATR have slowed the pics down on purpose. Like I have said for years they are a disgrace and pure filth
Report henke April 29, 2014 5:30 PM BST
you would need a dish pointed at 7E or motorised to move to 7E

sky dish is fixed pointed at 28.2E
Report tips April 29, 2014 5:35 PM BST
Report dustybin April 29, 2014 5:37 PM BST
All That's Rancid
Report thirty-three April 29, 2014 10:44 PM BST
And your sky box can't be set to the symbol rate ( 3255 ).
Report Kriskin April 29, 2014 11:04 PM BST
They're a rancid organisation.  The sooner they lose the rights to most tracks the better.
Report salmon spray April 29, 2014 11:05 PM BST
Why have ATR slowed the pics down ?
Report racingstar April 29, 2014 11:38 PM BST
The ATR Pics are no slower today than normal.
They are 7.0 seconds behind "Live".
Report salmon spray April 29, 2014 11:46 PM BST
I meant why would they in the first place.
They live on advertising and if people call them rancid then advertisers would be put off surely     Confused
Report dustybin April 30, 2014 2:54 AM BST
Because they are a bookie channel
Remember ATR wouldn't even acknowledge exchanges for years, was it around 2006 where they changed tact and started mentioning them?
IR isn't associated with bookies but with exchanges so why would bookies want you having opaquely disguised subscription pics to use IR?
It certainly ain't the tech since that proves it was their end product on 7e.
Without anybody getting the truth from them all that can be devised is that they dish up delays as standard to the British customer.....and their sponsors sell loans at ridiculous rates following the last race that you just lost it on.
Report dustybin April 30, 2014 2:56 AM BST
But that's enterprise innit so it's all ok
Report Black_and_Tans1920-1922 April 30, 2014 7:10 AM BST
Matt Williams is on the case.He's waiting for a meeting to finish.Then we will have the full story why ATR slowed up.
Report racingstar April 30, 2014 12:34 PM BST
For the benefit of the utterly stupid,the ATR Delay is entirely by their design.
When I had SIS the gap between them and ATR was 1.7 seconds.
In 2011 the gap increased to 2.2 seconds.
The latest increase in "Delay" increased it to 4.2 seconds and has been in place for some time.
Compare ATR (7.0 seconds behind live) with RUK who have reduced their delay to being 1.0 second behind live.
Amazingly,you still get cretins on here bleating about the monthly fee for RUK.
Report dustybin April 30, 2014 1:26 PM BST
The irony was that there was an ruk feed as well as ATR
They were both the same speed

The question here is, should ATR/sis be allowed to farm rights to nearly half of British racing, when they are an amalgamation of bookies that profit from keeping the poor losing, selling on sponsors odious loans and advertise both their product as free (when it's part of a subscription package) and their pictures as 'live' when they clearly start out as that then become 'recorded'?
Since we are talking about a vehicle associated with betting, that's is idiots in my book.

Compare to ruk who ostensibly are a tv channel that covers racing, they supply more to the tracks and have a vesting interest not in bookies winning but in their clients (the customer) being able to pay a subscription.

No wonga adverts on RUK
Report dustybin April 30, 2014 1:27 PM BST
*insidious not idiots
Report troy71 April 30, 2014 1:40 PM BST
hi ,,can anyone help,, was wondering when ascot moves to ruk from atr?, ...and atr is murder, never bet on atr races!! in running, pure conn!!!
Report racingstar April 30, 2014 3:46 PM BST
Royal Ascot,Troy.
Report TRD.Racing April 30, 2014 4:00 PM BST
The fact that the delay on ATR is just swept under the carpet is a total disgrace.

This delay is there on purpose. They should not be allowed to promote our sport with their rancid channel
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