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"Jockeys stage mutiny after start inquiry"


By Lee Mottershead 7:16PM 5 APR 2014

"THE most extraordinary scenes linked to Saturday's Crabbie's Grand National took place not
on the racecourse but behind closed doors as 39 of the 40 riders staged a mass revolt by
collectively refusing to leave the weighing room to hear the outcome of a stewards' inquiry
into farcical scenes at the start.

All riders with the exception of Brendan Powell, whose mount Battle Group planted himself
at the start, now face being punished by the BHA after not a single jockey obeyed the stewards'
instructions to hear the result of their deliberations.

A BHA spokesman said only one rider or a representative of the weighing room was required to
be present for the reading of the inquiry's findings but none were willing to co-operate.

The case will now be heard at the BHA's London headquarters where a panel will not only make
public the suspensions dished out to the 39 jockeys for their actions at the start but
additionally decide how to deal with their act of rebellion.

The inquiry had been called to determine why all but one of the riders attempted to form a
line before the Grand National's official 4.15 start time had been reached. Minutes later
an official false start was recorded after the tape was broken.

The racecourse inquiry had attempted to investigate whether the riders had lined up before
being invited to do so and subsequently disobeyed the starter's instructions, additionally
putting the safety of one of the starting staff at risk."

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By:
mange
When: 05 Apr 14 20:03
Look at me b0ll0cks..................
By:
onlooker
When: 05 Apr 14 20:41
I  will never forget the image of Starter Keith Brown - with his Mackintosh firmly belted up beneath his arm-pits CryGrin - in Esha Ness's 'National that never was year.

It was like something out of a Monty Python sketch -

- and showed up officialdom for what  it is.

Thought we had moved on, a little, from those days ....

- But, apparently not.Sad
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Photo - in this link...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2304222/The-Grand-National-1993-20-years-on.html
By:
dewey
When: 05 Apr 14 20:47
I remember that too onlooker - talk about bringing disrespect to the sport! It was made to look a joke that day.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 Apr 14 20:55
can't ban them all or can they??
By:
roggrain
When: 05 Apr 14 20:55
Brilliant!  The way races are started on the jumps is a joke. So the stewards blame 39 jockeys!!!

Good on the jocks for refusing to cowtow to these useless pr@tts.

I hope the suspensions the BHA is threatening results in a jockeys' strike. It's about time someone took on the nincompoops that run the sport.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 Apr 14 20:55
#FREETHE39
By:
onlooker
When: 05 Apr 14 21:00
So - NOW - after what almost everybody has agreed was an 'acceptable Grand National'....

[b[The BHA are going to bring the race into the Public Eye, again[/b] -
- and no doubt the NATIONAL NEWS - when they, presumably, announce that they have both admonished, and Suspended, 39 Grand National Jockeys.

JOE PUBLIC - the NATIONAL Newspapers - the BBC, et al - who will, 'LOVE IT' - will ONLY see this in ONE LIGHT.....

Yet another SLUR on the GRAND NATIONAL

Talk about 'SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT'.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 Apr 14 21:11
I wonder if any of the 39 will bottle it and plea bargain...no ban for testifying that AP, RJ, BG were the ring leaders and bullied the rest :o
By:
breadnbutter
When: 05 Apr 14 21:11
who is the scab ?
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 05 Apr 14 21:15
The BHA throwing their weight around for no useful purpose whatsoever. A complete farce.

I wouldn't mind if we had some consistency - but compare to Cheltenham, where they were essentially encouraged to have a running start.
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 Apr 14 21:18
I thought Powell WAS trying to form a line. Only Battle Group obeyed the starter imo.
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 05 Apr 14 21:18
The worlds gawn mad
By:
breadnbutter
When: 05 Apr 14 21:21
we need stalls
By:
Busvaldo
When: 05 Apr 14 21:23
'Posturing' they call it in the vernacular.
By:
homefortea
When: 05 Apr 14 21:27
Funnily enough in a similar stand off 250 miles South in a place called Canary Wharf 39 alleged Journalists would not leave the building after the alleged Editor was told to produce a paper for the punters and not for the sponsors...
There was one alleged Tipster that left the building because he had made a profit...

Police have brought in Special Investigators to find out his identity...

They may have to bring in those that worked on Operation Yewtree to work out who he was....
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 Apr 14 21:45
The leader of the 39.....AP McCoy

:(
By:
salmon spray
When: 05 Apr 14 21:47
The GN normally goes off at least 10 mins late these days during which time the odds on nearly all the runners contracts quite noticeably giving a very healthy overround on the SP. Had somebody boobed by getting them down to the start on time this year ?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 21:51
So the stewards were holding an enquiry into why there was a false start (which I presume they're required to when such an eventuality occurs), they've asked for at least 1 jockey to go to the stewards' room to give the jockeys' version of events, but the jokeys decided to play silly buggers and now we have a 'story'.

I'm not understanding the 'sympathy vote' for the jockeys here. The stewards were their jobs, and we don't know for sure the jokeys were going to be banned!
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 21:52
*The stewards were doing their jobs
By:
Vubiant
When: 05 Apr 14 21:55
Stewards 1 ; Jockeys 0.
(Riders og)
By:
roggrain
When: 05 Apr 14 21:56
George, the jockeys didn't refuse to talk to the stewards, tey refused to go and listen to the stewards' decision.
By:
Busvaldo
When: 05 Apr 14 21:58
^is the correct answer.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 05 Apr 14 22:00
can u fit 39  in the stewards room
By:
Wood Lane
When: 05 Apr 14 22:00
load them into starting stalls for this four and a half mile stayers hurdle
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:02
Soz, my mistake, just trying to establish the facts here Grin

But presumably, they didn't know for sure they were going to be banned, so why didn't one of them just go along and find out!?
By:
norwichfan
When: 05 Apr 14 22:02
thats not what happened George B, the jockeys did attend the first enquiry, but the enquiry was held over until after the amateur race, the jockeys did not like the way the enquiry was going so they all decided not to return to the enquiry.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:07
The Stewards held an enquiry following a report from the Starter that Sam Twiston-Davies, the rider of TIDAL BAY (IRE), Mr S Waley-Cohen, the rider of LONG RUN (FR), Andrew Tinkler, the rider of HUNT BALL (IRE), Barry Geraghty, the rider of TRIOLO D’ALENE (FR), Noel Fehily, the rider of ROCKY CREEK (IRE), Brian O’Connell, the rider of QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR), Mark Walsh, the rider of COLBERT STATION (IRE), Wayne Hutchinson, the rider of WALKON (FR), Richard Johnson, the rider of BALTHAZAR KING (IRE), Jack Doyle, the rider of WAYWARD PRINCE, Ryan Mania, the rider of MR MOONSHINE (IRE), Nick Schofield, the rider of TEAFORTHREE (IRE), Henry Brooke, the rider of ACROSS THE BAY (IRE), A P McCoy, the rider of DOUBLE SEVEN (IRE), A E Lynch, the rider of BUCKERS BRIDGE (IRE), Davy Russell, the rider of LION NA BEARNAI (IRE), Paul Townend, the rider of PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR), Paul Carberry, the rider of MONBEG DUDE (IRE), Peter Buchanan, the rider of BIG SHU (IRE), Brian Harding, the rider of BURTON PORT (IRE), Denis O’Regan, the rider of OUR FATHER (IRE), Jamie Moore, the rider of MOUNTAINOUS (IRE), Aidan Coleman, the rider of THE RAINBOW HUNTER, Brian Hughes, the rider of VINTAGE STAR (IRE), Tom O’Brien, the rider of CHANCE DU ROY (FR), Ryan Mahon, the rider of HAWKES POINT, Wilson Renwick, the rider of KRUZHLININ (GER), Leighton Aspell, the rider of PINEAU DE RE (FR), Michael Byrne, the rider of GOLAN WAY, Richie McLernon, the rider of TWIRLING MAGNET (IRE), Katie Walsh, the rider of VESPER BELL (IRE), Tom Scudamore, the rider of THE PACKAGE, Davy Condon, the rider of RAZ DE MAREE (FR), Jake Greenall, the rider of ROSE OF THE MOON (IRE), David Bass, the rider of SHAKALAKABOOMBOOM (IRE), Paul Moloney, the rider of ALVARADO (IRE), Robert Colgan, the rider of LAST TIME D’ALBAIN (FR), Adam Wedge, the rider of ONE IN A MILAN (IRE) AND Conor O’Farrell, the rider of SWING BILL (FR) had lined up despite being advised by the Assistant Starter, who was positioned in front of the field, that it was not yet race time and then proceeded towards the start.

When these riders moved forward towards the start they knocked down the Assistant Starter, thereby comprising the welfare of an Official. After taking initial evidence from the riders and the Starting Team, the Stewards adjourned the Enquiry to consider the matter. In attempting to re-convene the Enquiry after the last race, the riders, who had not been given permission to leave the course, refused to attend the Enquiry. The Stewards have referred the matter to the British Horseracing Authority.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:08
...had lined up despite being advised by the Assistant Starter, who was positioned in front of the field, that it was not yet race time and then proceeded towards the start.

When these riders moved forward towards the start they knocked down the Assistant Starter, thereby comprising the welfare of an Official
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:10
So trying to start before the off time and knocking down an official in the process.

Nothing to see here, move along...
By:
roggrain
When: 05 Apr 14 22:17
Surely with crowd noise,the jostle of 40 horses etc, it's quite possible that most of the jockeys would not have heard the starter's assistant and would have pushed forward from behind.

And those in front who did couldn't do much about it. It's all very well for the stewards and others to blame them but no jockey is going to deliberately disobey the starter because they know what the outcome will be.
By:
dewey
When: 05 Apr 14 22:22
Remind me - when was this race first run?
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 05 Apr 14 22:27
surely the assistant starter needs a psychiatric evaluation?! who the hell stands up in front of 40 horses shout and screaming?
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 05 Apr 14 22:31
Isn't the point of the starter having a microphone so that he can give clear instructions to the riders, with such a big field and the crowd noise?

Why exactly do we need anyone standing in front of the horses giving instructions?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:35
Oh I see, so they couldn't hear him but thought they'd run him over anyway!? Laugh
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:37
Btw, has anyone got a link to the televisual evidence of this unfortunate assistant starter having 39 horses charging at him?
By:
Vubiant
When: 05 Apr 14 22:39
The Charge of the Fright Brigade ?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Apr 14 22:40
"Get out the way ya daft c'nt"? Laugh
By:
onlooker
When: 05 Apr 14 22:41
Just been on Youtube - GEORGE

The Start and race are on - But ONLY from the Proper Start.

Somewhat annoyingly - The False Start from 2 years ago is on  -

- along with the Double False Start Void race in 1993.
By:
dewey
When: 05 Apr 14 22:42
Crazy
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