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totally disagree was given a great ride . if you looked at most off the stables runners the last few days they ain't been finishing thier races , the horse has been off for over a year ffs if you want too start too look at the ride abourd rev what a plonker holding this horse up , really feel the horse was not fully tuned up for this , as i said before stable really put punters away , so much success being ridden positvely yet they hold it way off the pace , none jogger defo 
pre race comments just before the off we dont want this race too leave its mark for march , be as well saying its out for a fecken run the day
pre race comments just before the off we dont want this race too leave its mark for march , be as well saying its out for a fecken run the day
totally disagree was given a great ride . if you looked at most off the stables runners the last few days they ain't been finishing thier races , the horse has been off for over a year ffs
Thats why I thought it was a strange ride mart..went for home far too early on bad ground...had he taken a "pull" and waited a bit longer then BB would have won imo.
Thats why I thought it was a strange ride mart..went for home far too early on bad ground...had he taken a "pull" and waited a bit longer then BB would have won imo.
Koi morning.
Whats this thingy thats making dogs ill???
My labby was sick last night he never has been before??
Something going about aint there??
Whats this thingy thats making dogs ill???
My labby was sick last night he never has been before??
Something going about aint there??
Totally agree koi - the best way to get the horse beat was to ride it as he did.
Paul Nicholls said after the race that he had told Sam to be positive so don't blame the jockey. As the race worked out, what was he supposed to do when the other 2 pacemakers fell away, take a pull and wait for the main dangers to keep him company? as others have said, the hill and soft ground found him out this time as it has so many in the past.
No idea grimmy, all I know is that when they have an upset stomach they eat grass....
Tar . . . . alabama rot is the bastard. . . .not here yet tho thank fook.
Paul Nicholls said after the race that he had told Sam to be positive so don't blame the jockey. As the race worked out, what was he supposed to do when the other 2 pacemakers fell away, take a pull and wait for the main dangers to keep him company? as others have said, the hill and soft ground found him out this time as it has so many in the past.
Has always worked in the past.....if Ruby had rode BB it would have won, he knows the horse inside out..STD does not.
Come the world hurdle, it will be more or less guaranteed that BB will be "waited with" to some extent.
Has always worked in the past.....if Ruby had rode BB it would have won, he knows the horse inside out..STD does not.
Come the world hurdle, it will be more or less guaranteed that BB will be "waited with" to some extent.
trouble in the nicolls camp since ruby left,a stewart didnt want jacobs on B B,shot himself in the foot with that one,if u look at the rpr,for this month,p nicolls,horses r given a minus,on marks they usually run to.is it the jockeys ,or is it the stable form.?the ruby factor has gone.
before racing jonathan neesom said the ground was soft all the way round,but the straight was bottomless.
look at the 2m hurdle following the cleeve,in to the straight there was 2/3l covering the whole field,come to the line the majority were tailed off.
the straight was bottomless.
on first viewing i thought std had done little wrong,but now i agree with the chaps above.
he went to early and bottomed the horse,and i think the jockey and connections know it.
horse ran a cracker.
look at the 2m hurdle following the cleeve,in to the straight there was 2/3l covering the whole field,come to the line the majority were tailed off.
the straight was bottomless.
on first viewing i thought std had done little wrong,but now i agree with the chaps above.
he went to early and bottomed the horse,and i think the jockey and connections know it.
horse ran a cracker.
Koi, Ruby would probably have waited back alongside McCoy but Sam was told to do what he did and with 3 horses going clear, it was a no win situation. Two of them were going to stop a long way out. It looked a great ride to me until the last 100 yards. You could argue that the winner would have dotted up if he had been allowed a bigger lead. Nobody seems to criticize AP for sitting so far back and getting beat a head.
I never thought that so many on here were fans of the way Jamie Spencer rides?. 
Sam rode Big Bucks just as he normally is, taking it up 3 out. There was no flat spot so he was probably travelling better than most of us thought. Taking a pull and waiting to take it up at the last would have been going against the `ride a positive race` instructions from connections.
Anyone who backed BB has to look in the mirror if they are now moaning about the ride. What was the odds Big Bucks would have been ridden to normal instructions?
1/5 perhaps? Did they want to blow away the cobwebs? yup. Is the World Hurdle the target again? yup. BB was 6/5 for a reason, that reason is that he more than likely would need the race. Your money is not the concern of the connections as long as horse and rider try to win the race by the riding the horse as normal, which he did.
Anyone who backed BB has to look in the mirror if they are now moaning about the ride. What was the odds Big Bucks would have been ridden to normal instructions?
1/5 perhaps? Did they want to blow away the cobwebs? yup. Is the World Hurdle the target again? yup. BB was 6/5 for a reason, that reason is that he more than likely would need the race. Your money is not the concern of the connections as long as horse and rider try to win the race by the riding the horse as normal, which he did.
STD is a young lad and unlike Big Bucks plenty of improvement still to come !
I believe he rode to orders, and obviously hasn't got Ruby's ''in built clock'' to judge the pace of the race, and understand the vagaries of both horse and track re: going ! Many times did Ruby do his own thing and not ride to Nicholls instructions whilst still attaining the right result !
Be interesting to know if he walked the course..... and was aware of the bottomless ground from the last obstacle ?.....
I believe he rode to orders, and obviously hasn't got Ruby's ''in built clock'' to judge the pace of the race, and understand the vagaries of both horse and track re: going ! Many times did Ruby do his own thing and not ride to Nicholls instructions whilst still attaining the right result !
Be interesting to know if he walked the course..... and was aware of the bottomless ground from the last obstacle ?.....
I took the e.w on Fishers Cross yesterday and thought I was unlucky not to collect in full.
Fishers is the horse to take out of the race, it has a future.
With regards the ride, did not think that sam did much wrong I am just a bit confused as to why he is suddenly thought of as the next champion jockey.
No doubt in my mind that Ruby left Nichols because most of the stars in the yard were at the wrong end of their careers and replacements were not obvious.
With regards to heavy ground racing I never like to see horses held up because unless the front runners come back you are dead.
Fishers was held up because his health and jumping had been an issue but had that not been the case I think it would have won easily.
Forget Big Bucks he will never beat Fishers Cross.
The king is dead long live the king.
Fishers is the horse to take out of the race, it has a future.
With regards the ride, did not think that sam did much wrong I am just a bit confused as to why he is suddenly thought of as the next champion jockey.
No doubt in my mind that Ruby left Nichols because most of the stars in the yard were at the wrong end of their careers and replacements were not obvious.
With regards to heavy ground racing I never like to see horses held up because unless the front runners come back you are dead.
Fishers was held up because his health and jumping had been an issue but had that not been the case I think it would have won easily.
Forget Big Bucks he will never beat Fishers Cross.
The king is dead long live the king.
Moondan if you are taking the form literally then you are saying Fishers Cross was unlucky not or badly ridden to beat Knockara Beau the 145 rated 11 year old. Hardly King worthy.
I can not take the form literally.
I can not take the form literally.
He may have kicked for home because of his poor tactical ride on Double Ross,who is an out and out stayer, but was held up to long, and then beaten for speed.
Angel.
I dont think the going suited any horse and yes it was a muddled affair but Fishers form had been a big concern for the stable as was all the stables runners.
My money will say Fishers will not be beaten again this year or next for that matter and I think its sometimes forgotten that he is by far the most serious threat that big bucks has n had to face in about 5 years.
Thanks to Big Bucks we may start to see these long distance races become more competitive instead of the 5-6 runner affairs which has been the norm.
And thank the racing Gods for that because its been pretty boring and over hyped up until now.
Hope to hear from you at the German open this week, cannot support the shootout in any way.
I dont think the going suited any horse and yes it was a muddled affair but Fishers form had been a big concern for the stable as was all the stables runners.
My money will say Fishers will not be beaten again this year or next for that matter and I think its sometimes forgotten that he is by far the most serious threat that big bucks has n had to face in about 5 years.
Thanks to Big Bucks we may start to see these long distance races become more competitive instead of the 5-6 runner affairs which has been the norm.
And thank the racing Gods for that because its been pretty boring and over hyped up until now.
Hope to hear from you at the German open this week, cannot support the shootout in any way.
Nanny,
Spot on, the lad has much to prove and he will be lucky to ever be in the same class as the jockey who left his dads stable when Sam was getting some choice rides because blood is thicker than water.
Brennan wasn't it?
Spot on, the lad has much to prove and he will be lucky to ever be in the same class as the jockey who left his dads stable when Sam was getting some choice rides because blood is thicker than water.
Brennan wasn't it?
the criticism of STD is ridiculous.
rode the horse exactly as it is is always ridden, looked all over the winner but is not the horse he was in 2012. A 70 per cent Big Bucks should have laughed at that field imo.
the excuses re being off the racecourse have been made and are valid.
we will see come world hurdle day who is right, of course it also depends who his rivals are on the day
i remember See You Then being off the track for an age when he won his last CH, won his one prep race and then the CH.
rode the horse exactly as it is is always ridden, looked all over the winner but is not the horse he was in 2012. A 70 per cent Big Bucks should have laughed at that field imo.
the excuses re being off the racecourse have been made and are valid.
we will see come world hurdle day who is right, of course it also depends who his rivals are on the day
i remember See You Then being off the track for an age when he won his last CH, won his one prep race and then the CH.
My money will say Fishers will not be beaten again this year or next for that matter and I think its sometimes forgotten that he is by far the most serious threat that big bucks has had to face in about 5 years.
I think Annie Power may have a say in this
I think Annie Power may have a say in this
andrew,
Yes will go along with that.
It will be great to see these races with a competitive edge, its been pretty boring for years.
Yes will go along with that.
It will be great to see these races with a competitive edge, its been pretty boring for years.
koikeeper spot on imo. as soon as std kicked for home a mile out i knew straight away would be difficult for bb to win. surley std has watched recording of bb wins in the past. as far as i can remember hes never been ridden as forcefully as this and from my limited experience of racehorses, horses coming back from a tendon injury scare would want an easy race first time back and bb was given a hard race due to forcing the issue a mile from home.
commentator actually says
"the pretenders are massing behind Big Bucks"
"the pretenders are massing behind Big Bucks"
Those who are trying to use jockey instructions to defend the ride do you really think that when Nicholls said 'ride him positive' he meant take the lead 6f out?
Do you also think what Nicholls says to the press is the same as what he says in private?
Do you also think what Nicholls says to the press is the same as what he says in private?
i see very little difference to his world hurdle win and a number of others, to the ride the horse got yesterday.
If it was held up, at the back, it rarely is in other races, and Big Bucks lost because he was out of his ground i take it everyone would be saying that STD looked after the horse?
If it was held up, at the back, it rarely is in other races, and Big Bucks lost because he was out of his ground i take it everyone would be saying that STD looked after the horse?
Do you also think what Nicholls says to the press is the same as what he says in private?
Spot on!
Spot on!
If STD could ride the race again do you think he would ride an identical race, somehow I think not.....all about opinions though
Sam never really got after Big Bucks. He was waiting in front down the hill and going to the last was going every bit as well as he was in all his other winning runs. The difference was 13 months off and the heavy going up the hill.
The way I see it..He wanted the horse to have a good blow....no good a slow run tatical affair....once the eventual winner dropped away he took himself to the front.........he looked the best horse in the race then & got beat through lack of fitness................fink it will win at Chelt
He lost the race so the Nicholls team would obviously would have tried something different.
It is pure speculation however, based on how Big Bucks performed, that he would have won with different tactics, bearing in
mind Big Bucks normally wins ridden the way he was yesterday imo.
It is pure speculation however, based on how Big Bucks performed, that he would have won with different tactics, bearing in
mind Big Bucks normally wins ridden the way he was yesterday imo.
Mange, i think he will win the World Hurdle as well, providing Annie Power does not turn up.
STD was chosen to ride the horse for 2 reasons - he is highly rated in the weighing room (Geraghty said as much earlier this season) and he normally gives horses positive rides - this is the way that he has been brought up. You don't see many of his dad's ridden patiently.
Turning in yesterday, I thought BB was going to win. If he had been given a more patient ride, he might have done. More likely that a combination of the ground and lack of race fitness would have done for him anyway.
Turning in yesterday, I thought BB was going to win. If he had been given a more patient ride, he might have done. More likely that a combination of the ground and lack of race fitness would have done for him anyway.
Really? How many of his races has he lead 6f out in? I suspect hardly any. Most of the time he would have been asked to pick up the leader on the run to the last or even after.
Walsh wouldn't have been interested in getting any 'big jumps' out of the horse until he really asked him to race. All about conserving his energy.
Walsh wouldn't have been interested in getting any 'big jumps' out of the horse until he really asked him to race. All about conserving his energy.
History says Annie Champ Hdl............the longer 1 comes later on................top of the ground is a question may be...........
far too many people talking through their pocket here , the only time this horse was beaten over a trip apart from when he unseated , was when he was held up , fantastic ride , if he had finished with a flourish , the very same empty pocket knockers wd be screaming why did he give it so much to do , the facts are their in black and white , the horse has had an injury ffs its been off for over 400 days , some off the track yest was desperate , too be beaten les than a length was a fantastic training feat ! easy too way blame when you lost money , i thought the horse was dif gravey but i always check the betting , and when they stated offering 6/4 early price and offering 3/1 if it won by 5 lengths i thought mm, just watch race , as a nuetral , saying if superman had been on he wd have won lol forgette these aint machines as someone who works at an equine centre how hard it is too get a horse back after a tendon injury , the comments on here are laughable , someone even said cant rem him been ridden so prominently ? what planet is he from stay off that d-ope ! another fact is the stables runners have not been finishing their races , eh noone noticed they have went off the boil da ! too many pocket talking posters 
Newbury Result
01 Dec 2012
« 2:00 » Sportingbet Long Distance Hurdle Grade 2 .
(Class 1) (4yo+) (3m110y) 3m½f Soft 12 hdles
£19,932.50, £7,479.50, £3,745.00, £1,865.50
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« 1 Big Buck's (FR) 1/12F 9 11-8 Paul Nicholls 174 * * »
R Walsh
Disputed lead until strode ahead on bridle after 3 out, canter
« 2 9 Reve De Sivola (FR) 33/1 7 11-0 Nick Williams 143 * * »
Daryl Jacob
Raced in 4th, jumped slowly 6th, ridden approaching 3 out, stayed on under pressure to take modest 2nd with 1f to run (op 25-1)
« 3 2½ Fox Appeal (IRE) 12/1 5 11-0 Emma Lavelle 148 * * »
Dougie Costello
Chased leading duo, mistake and ridden 3 out, switched right to stands' rail next and mistake, took remote 2nd approaching last, dropped to modest 3rd with 1f to run
« 4 15 Five Dream (FR) 33/1 8 11-0 Paul Nicholls 147 * * »
Ryan Mahon
Disputed lead until after 3 out, soon lost touch with winner, weakened into 4th approaching last (op 25-1)
4 ran TIME 6m 17.45s (slow by 30.45s) Total SP 106%
1st OWNER: The Stewart Family BRED: Henri Poulat TRAINER: Paul Nicholls
2nd OWNER: Paul Duffy Diamond Partnership
3rd OWNER: Fox Inn Syndicate 3
TOTE WIN £1.10; Ex £3.60; CSF £4.08 TRIFECTA £9.20 Pool: £2022
01 Dec 2012
« 2:00 » Sportingbet Long Distance Hurdle Grade 2 .
(Class 1) (4yo+) (3m110y) 3m½f Soft 12 hdles
£19,932.50, £7,479.50, £3,745.00, £1,865.50
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« 1 Big Buck's (FR) 1/12F 9 11-8 Paul Nicholls 174 * * »
R Walsh
Disputed lead until strode ahead on bridle after 3 out, canter
« 2 9 Reve De Sivola (FR) 33/1 7 11-0 Nick Williams 143 * * »
Daryl Jacob
Raced in 4th, jumped slowly 6th, ridden approaching 3 out, stayed on under pressure to take modest 2nd with 1f to run (op 25-1)
« 3 2½ Fox Appeal (IRE) 12/1 5 11-0 Emma Lavelle 148 * * »
Dougie Costello
Chased leading duo, mistake and ridden 3 out, switched right to stands' rail next and mistake, took remote 2nd approaching last, dropped to modest 3rd with 1f to run
« 4 15 Five Dream (FR) 33/1 8 11-0 Paul Nicholls 147 * * »
Ryan Mahon
Disputed lead until after 3 out, soon lost touch with winner, weakened into 4th approaching last (op 25-1)
4 ran TIME 6m 17.45s (slow by 30.45s) Total SP 106%
1st OWNER: The Stewart Family BRED: Henri Poulat TRAINER: Paul Nicholls
2nd OWNER: Paul Duffy Diamond Partnership
3rd OWNER: Fox Inn Syndicate 3
TOTE WIN £1.10; Ex £3.60; CSF £4.08 TRIFECTA £9.20 Pool: £2022
Aintree Result
12 Apr 2012
2:00 » BGC Partners Liverpool Hurdle Grade 1 .
(Class 1) (4yo+) (3m110y) 3m½f Good To Soft 13 hdles
£56,736.00, £21,666.00, £11,076.00, £5,766.00, £3,126.00
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« 1 Big Buck's (FR) 2/9F 9 11-7 Paul Nicholls 174 * * »
R Walsh
Chased leaders, led 3 out, clear approaching last, easily (op 1-5)
« 2 9 Crack Away Jack 33/1 8 11-7 t Tom George 147 * * »
Noel Fehily
Held up, hampered 8th, headway approaching 9th, chased winner after 2 out, stayed on same pace (op 50-1)
« 3 3¼ Across The Bay (IRE) 50/1 8 11-7 b Donald McCain 140 * * »
Jason Maguire
Led to 3 out, soon ridden, weakened approaching last (op 66-1)
« 4 7 Tidal Bay (IRE) 14/1 11 11-7 Paul Nicholls 160 * * »
Nick Scholfield
Held up, pushed along when badly hampered 8th, soon tailed off, stayed on flat (op 16-1)
« 5 3¾ Poungach (FR) 12/1 6 11-7 Paul Nicholls 154 * * »
Daryl Jacob
Chased leader until ridden approaching 3 out, weakened before next (op 14-1)
« UR Smad Place (FR) 5/1 5 11-7 Alan King 161 * * »
Robert Thornton
Held up in touch, disputing close 3rd and going well when blundered and unseated rider 9th
« F Restless Harry 20/1 8 11-7 Robin Dickin 155 * * »
Charlie Poste
Prominent, close 4th when fell 8th
« BD Won In The Dark (IRE) 33/1 8 11-7 Sabrina J Harty 148 * * »
A E Lynch
Held up, brough down 8th
8 ran TIME 6m 17.20s (slow by 23.20s) Total SP 125%
1st OWNER: The Stewart Family BRED: Henri Poulat TRAINER: Paul Nicholls
2nd OWNER: Gdm Partnership
3rd OWNER: Scotch Piper Syndicate
TOTE toteswingers:1&2:£8.50, 1&3:£6.90, 2&3:£29.90 WIN £1.30 PL £1.02, £6.90, £10.70; Ex £21.40; CSF £19.97; TRICAST £238.97 TRIFECTA £271.00 Pool: £10,841.05 - 29.60 winning units.
12 Apr 2012
2:00 » BGC Partners Liverpool Hurdle Grade 1 .
(Class 1) (4yo+) (3m110y) 3m½f Good To Soft 13 hdles
£56,736.00, £21,666.00, £11,076.00, £5,766.00, £3,126.00
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« 1 Big Buck's (FR) 2/9F 9 11-7 Paul Nicholls 174 * * »
R Walsh
Chased leaders, led 3 out, clear approaching last, easily (op 1-5)
« 2 9 Crack Away Jack 33/1 8 11-7 t Tom George 147 * * »
Noel Fehily
Held up, hampered 8th, headway approaching 9th, chased winner after 2 out, stayed on same pace (op 50-1)
« 3 3¼ Across The Bay (IRE) 50/1 8 11-7 b Donald McCain 140 * * »
Jason Maguire
Led to 3 out, soon ridden, weakened approaching last (op 66-1)
« 4 7 Tidal Bay (IRE) 14/1 11 11-7 Paul Nicholls 160 * * »
Nick Scholfield
Held up, pushed along when badly hampered 8th, soon tailed off, stayed on flat (op 16-1)
« 5 3¾ Poungach (FR) 12/1 6 11-7 Paul Nicholls 154 * * »
Daryl Jacob
Chased leader until ridden approaching 3 out, weakened before next (op 14-1)
« UR Smad Place (FR) 5/1 5 11-7 Alan King 161 * * »
Robert Thornton
Held up in touch, disputing close 3rd and going well when blundered and unseated rider 9th
« F Restless Harry 20/1 8 11-7 Robin Dickin 155 * * »
Charlie Poste
Prominent, close 4th when fell 8th
« BD Won In The Dark (IRE) 33/1 8 11-7 Sabrina J Harty 148 * * »
A E Lynch
Held up, brough down 8th
8 ran TIME 6m 17.20s (slow by 23.20s) Total SP 125%
1st OWNER: The Stewart Family BRED: Henri Poulat TRAINER: Paul Nicholls
2nd OWNER: Gdm Partnership
3rd OWNER: Scotch Piper Syndicate
TOTE toteswingers:1&2:£8.50, 1&3:£6.90, 2&3:£29.90 WIN £1.30 PL £1.02, £6.90, £10.70; Ex £21.40; CSF £19.97; TRICAST £238.97 TRIFECTA £271.00 Pool: £10,841.05 - 29.60 winning units.
Differentdrum
think you need to watch Big Bucks previous runs.
think you need to watch Big Bucks previous runs.
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Cheltenham Result
13 Mar 2008
« 1:40 » Jewson Novices' Handicap Chase (Listed Race) .
(Class 1) (5yo+) (2m4f110y) 2m4½f Good To Soft 16 fences
£51,318.00, £19,251.00, £9,639.00, £4,806.00, £2,412.00, £1,206.00
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« 1 Finger Onthe Pulse (IRE) 9/1 7 10-12 T J Taaffe 135 * * »
Barry Geraghty
In touch, closed 8th, went 2nd after 9th (water), led 3 out, ridden approaching last, all out close home (op 10-1)
« 2 nk Barbers Shop 12/1 6 10-13 Nicky Henderson 136 * * »
Mick Fitzgerald
In touch, closed 8th, pressed leaders approaching 3 out, chased winner 2 out, ridden before last, edged left run-in, stayed on and gaining close home (op 10-1)
« 3 1½ Possol (FR) 25/1 5 10-6 Henry Daly 130 * * »
Mark Bradburne
In rear, hampered 5th, headway when mistake 4 out, effort before 3 out, hung left and stayed on from approaching last, went 3rd run-in, kept on well but never threatened front pair (op 20-1)
« 4 nse Fleet Street 66/1 9 10-12 Nicky Henderson 135 * * »
Andrew Tinkler
In rear, hampered 5th, pushed along approaching 11th, headway before 3 out, stayed on well after last, gaining on leaders close home
« 5 2¾ Gods Token 40/1 10 10-4extra weight4 Venetia Williams 134 * * »
Aidan Coleman7
Prominent, stumbled after 9th (water), ridden approaching 3 out, disputing 5th and held when mistake last, stayed on same pace (op 33-1)
« 6 ½ Ambobo (USA) 10/1 8 10-13 tp Martin Brassil 136 * * »
P W Flood
Midfield, headway approaching 4 out, ridden before 2 out, 3rd and about 2 lengths down when blundered last, faded run-in (op 9-1)
« 7 ¾ Big Buck's (FR) 16/1 5 11-3 Paul Nicholls 148 * * »
Nick Scholfield7
In rear, hampered 8th, blundered 10th, headway approaching 3 out, plugged on from before last, never able to trouble leaders
« 8 9 The Hairy Lemon 11/1 8 10-12 b Alan King 135 * * »
Robert Thornton
In touch with leaders from 4th, ridden approaching 2 out, weakened before last (op 20-1)
« 9 ¾ Pauillac (FR) 33/1 5 10-5 v1 David Pipe 129 * * »
Timmy Murphy
Midfield, reminder after 4th, headway 4 out, pressed leaders approaching 3 out, ridden and weakened 2 out
« 10 nk Lord Ryeford (IRE) 20/1 8 10-6 Tom George 129 * * »
Davy Russell
Chased leaders until not fluent and weakened 3 out
« 11 6 Merry Cowboy (IRE) 100/1 7 10-10 p E Sheehy 136 * * »
Ms K Walsh3
Held up, some headway approaching 3 out, ridden and no impression from before next
« 12 25 Nudge And Nurdle (IRE) 28/1 7 10-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies 134 * * »
Paddy Brennan
In rear, hampered 8th, never on terms (op 25-1)
« 13 1¼ Gold Medallist 12/1 8 10-12 Philip Hobbs 135 * * »
Richard Johnson
Witrh leader, led approaching 4th, mistake and headed 3 out, ridden before next, weakened approaching last
« 14 16 Templer (IRE) 33/1 7 10-10extra weight4 Philip Hobbs 133 * * »
Tom O'Brien
Prominent, hampered 8th, soon lost place and struggling, behind from 11th
« PU The Entomologist (IRE) 25/1 7 10-4over weight1 Charles Egerton 127 * * »
Jimmy McCarthy
Tracked leaders, hampered and lost place 8th, toiling 11th, tailed off when pulled up before 2 out (op 28-1)
« PU Arturio (FR) 14/1 5 10-13 Paul Nicholls 137 * *
Sam Thomas
Midfield early, not fluent 3rd, soon lost place and behind, never able to get on terms after, tailed off when pulled up before 2 out
« F Mr Strachan (IRE) 13/2F 7 10-11 Sue Smith 134 * * »
Jamie Moore
In touch, fell 5th (tchd 6-1)
« F Something Wells (FR) 16/1 7 10-9 Venetia Williams 132 * * »
Liam Treadwell
Led, hit 3rd, headed approaching next, disputing 4th when fell 8th (op 14-1)
« UR Dear Villez (FR) 15/2 6 11-1 Paul Nicholls 138 * * »
R Walsh
Midfield, hit 1st, hampered and unseated rider 8th (op 7-1)
« PU Boomshakalaka (IRE) 10/1 8 10-8 Nicky Henderson 131 * * »
A P McCoy
Midfield until weakened 11th, tailed off when pulled up before 3 out (op 12-1)
held up beat oh what do i see dripping down your chins pocket talkers egg egg egg
20 ran TIME 5m 10.20s (slow by 12.20s) Total SP 122%
1st OWNER: Conor Clarkson BRED: Mary Fanning McCormack TRAINER: T J Taaffe
2nd OWNER: The Queen
3rd OWNER: Neville Statham
TOTE WIN £11.30 PL £2.70, £3.60, £7.00, £17.30; Ex £125.20; CSF £98.95; TRICAST £2618.77 TRIFECTA £4634.50 Part won. Pool £6,527.55 - 0.40 winning units.
Cheltenham Result
13 Mar 2008
« 1:40 » Jewson Novices' Handicap Chase (Listed Race) .
(Class 1) (5yo+) (2m4f110y) 2m4½f Good To Soft 16 fences
£51,318.00, £19,251.00, £9,639.00, £4,806.00, £2,412.00, £1,206.00
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« 1 Finger Onthe Pulse (IRE) 9/1 7 10-12 T J Taaffe 135 * * »
Barry Geraghty
In touch, closed 8th, went 2nd after 9th (water), led 3 out, ridden approaching last, all out close home (op 10-1)
« 2 nk Barbers Shop 12/1 6 10-13 Nicky Henderson 136 * * »
Mick Fitzgerald
In touch, closed 8th, pressed leaders approaching 3 out, chased winner 2 out, ridden before last, edged left run-in, stayed on and gaining close home (op 10-1)
« 3 1½ Possol (FR) 25/1 5 10-6 Henry Daly 130 * * »
Mark Bradburne
In rear, hampered 5th, headway when mistake 4 out, effort before 3 out, hung left and stayed on from approaching last, went 3rd run-in, kept on well but never threatened front pair (op 20-1)
« 4 nse Fleet Street 66/1 9 10-12 Nicky Henderson 135 * * »
Andrew Tinkler
In rear, hampered 5th, pushed along approaching 11th, headway before 3 out, stayed on well after last, gaining on leaders close home
« 5 2¾ Gods Token 40/1 10 10-4extra weight4 Venetia Williams 134 * * »
Aidan Coleman7
Prominent, stumbled after 9th (water), ridden approaching 3 out, disputing 5th and held when mistake last, stayed on same pace (op 33-1)
« 6 ½ Ambobo (USA) 10/1 8 10-13 tp Martin Brassil 136 * * »
P W Flood
Midfield, headway approaching 4 out, ridden before 2 out, 3rd and about 2 lengths down when blundered last, faded run-in (op 9-1)
« 7 ¾ Big Buck's (FR) 16/1 5 11-3 Paul Nicholls 148 * * »
Nick Scholfield7
In rear, hampered 8th, blundered 10th, headway approaching 3 out, plugged on from before last, never able to trouble leaders
« 8 9 The Hairy Lemon 11/1 8 10-12 b Alan King 135 * * »
Robert Thornton
In touch with leaders from 4th, ridden approaching 2 out, weakened before last (op 20-1)
« 9 ¾ Pauillac (FR) 33/1 5 10-5 v1 David Pipe 129 * * »
Timmy Murphy
Midfield, reminder after 4th, headway 4 out, pressed leaders approaching 3 out, ridden and weakened 2 out
« 10 nk Lord Ryeford (IRE) 20/1 8 10-6 Tom George 129 * * »
Davy Russell
Chased leaders until not fluent and weakened 3 out
« 11 6 Merry Cowboy (IRE) 100/1 7 10-10 p E Sheehy 136 * * »
Ms K Walsh3
Held up, some headway approaching 3 out, ridden and no impression from before next
« 12 25 Nudge And Nurdle (IRE) 28/1 7 10-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies 134 * * »
Paddy Brennan
In rear, hampered 8th, never on terms (op 25-1)
« 13 1¼ Gold Medallist 12/1 8 10-12 Philip Hobbs 135 * * »
Richard Johnson
Witrh leader, led approaching 4th, mistake and headed 3 out, ridden before next, weakened approaching last
« 14 16 Templer (IRE) 33/1 7 10-10extra weight4 Philip Hobbs 133 * * »
Tom O'Brien
Prominent, hampered 8th, soon lost place and struggling, behind from 11th
« PU The Entomologist (IRE) 25/1 7 10-4over weight1 Charles Egerton 127 * * »
Jimmy McCarthy
Tracked leaders, hampered and lost place 8th, toiling 11th, tailed off when pulled up before 2 out (op 28-1)
« PU Arturio (FR) 14/1 5 10-13 Paul Nicholls 137 * *
Sam Thomas
Midfield early, not fluent 3rd, soon lost place and behind, never able to get on terms after, tailed off when pulled up before 2 out
« F Mr Strachan (IRE) 13/2F 7 10-11 Sue Smith 134 * * »
Jamie Moore
In touch, fell 5th (tchd 6-1)
« F Something Wells (FR) 16/1 7 10-9 Venetia Williams 132 * * »
Liam Treadwell
Led, hit 3rd, headed approaching next, disputing 4th when fell 8th (op 14-1)
« UR Dear Villez (FR) 15/2 6 11-1 Paul Nicholls 138 * * »
R Walsh
Midfield, hit 1st, hampered and unseated rider 8th (op 7-1)
« PU Boomshakalaka (IRE) 10/1 8 10-8 Nicky Henderson 131 * * »
A P McCoy
Midfield until weakened 11th, tailed off when pulled up before 3 out (op 12-1)
held up beat oh what do i see dripping down your chins pocket talkers egg egg egg
20 ran TIME 5m 10.20s (slow by 12.20s) Total SP 122%
1st OWNER: Conor Clarkson BRED: Mary Fanning McCormack TRAINER: T J Taaffe
2nd OWNER: The Queen
3rd OWNER: Neville Statham
TOTE WIN £11.30 PL £2.70, £3.60, £7.00, £17.30; Ex £125.20; CSF £98.95; TRICAST £2618.77 TRIFECTA £4634.50 Part won. Pool £6,527.55 - 0.40 winning units.
and no i aint a vet just worked re building an equine centre so seen loads horses comming in and re bulding them , a lot never come back fact
25Jan14 Chl 17Hy C2HcH 16K 1/10 5L, Lac Fontana 10-12 4/1C Daryl Jacob 136 8
25Jan14 Chl 24Hy C1HG2 34K 3/6 ¾L, Big Buck's 11-8 6/5F Sam Twiston-Davies 160 -15
Video 25Jan14 Don 24Sft C1HcChL 42K 3/15 9½L, Unioniste 11-7 11/4F Harry Derham 155 -9
Video 25Jan14 Don 25Sft C1NvHG2 15K 7/7 52L, Aerial 11-10 16/1 Nick Scholfield 90 -42
25Jan14 Chl 26Hy C1ChG2 56K 2/7 7L, Rocky Creek 11-5 6/4F Daryl Jacob 153 -13
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C1HcChG3 28K 6/10 28L, Cedre Bleu 10-13 tb 8/1 Daryl Jacob 121 -23
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C1HcChG3 28K 8/10 41L, Ulck Du Lin 10-7 11/1 Barry Geraghty 103 -34
Video 25Jan14 Don 17GS C2HcCh 14K PU/8 Shooters Wood 10-10 t 16/1 Nick Scholfield — —
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C2NvHcCh 15K 6/11 33L, Dark Lover 11-10 8/1 Daryl Jacob 119 -22
Video 25Jan14 Don 17GS C1NvChG2 17K 5/5 15½L, Caid Du Berlais 11-4 100/30 Nick Scholfield 141 9
25Jan14 Chl 17Hy C14yHG2 17K 3/6 15L, Vicenzo Mio 11-7 11/10F Daryl Jacob 131 -6
Video 25Jan14 Don 20GS C3HcH 5K 2/12 15L, Mcllhatton 11-4 15/2 Nick Scholfield 125 9
Video 24Jan14 Don 20GS C5MdH 2K 9/17 66L, Sergeant Thunder 11-5 3/1 Daryl Jacob — —
Video 24Jan14 Don 25GS C3HcH 5K 3/4 42L, Atlantic Roller 11-6 13/8F Daryl Jacob — —
Video 24Jan14 Don 17GS C4NvH 3K 5/18 22L, Varom 11-4 2/1F Daryl Jacob — —
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C3NvH 5K 3/7 18L, Ceasar Milan 11-2 7/2 Sam Twiston-Davies 110 -10
Video 18Jan14 Asc 17Hy C1ChG1 59K 3/7 26L, Kauto Stone 11-7 b 16/1 Sam Twiston-Davies 145 -14
Video 18Jan14 Tau 17Hy C3NvHcCh 7K 2/6 ¾L, Sound Investment 11-7 t 7/4F Ryan Mahon 130 6
Video 18Jan14 Hay 25Hy C1HcChG2 28K F/10 The Minack 11-5 12/1 Daryl Jacob — —
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C2HcCh 31K 2/7 5L, Grandioso 11-5 t 4/1J Harry Derham 155 6
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C2HcCh 31K 1/7 5L, Bury Parade 11-6 h1 11/2
one winner since 18 th jan buy some tissues too wipe that egg off your faced or call wonga loans some off these postings are hilarious !
25Jan14 Chl 24Hy C1HG2 34K 3/6 ¾L, Big Buck's 11-8 6/5F Sam Twiston-Davies 160 -15
Video 25Jan14 Don 24Sft C1HcChL 42K 3/15 9½L, Unioniste 11-7 11/4F Harry Derham 155 -9
Video 25Jan14 Don 25Sft C1NvHG2 15K 7/7 52L, Aerial 11-10 16/1 Nick Scholfield 90 -42
25Jan14 Chl 26Hy C1ChG2 56K 2/7 7L, Rocky Creek 11-5 6/4F Daryl Jacob 153 -13
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C1HcChG3 28K 6/10 28L, Cedre Bleu 10-13 tb 8/1 Daryl Jacob 121 -23
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C1HcChG3 28K 8/10 41L, Ulck Du Lin 10-7 11/1 Barry Geraghty 103 -34
Video 25Jan14 Don 17GS C2HcCh 14K PU/8 Shooters Wood 10-10 t 16/1 Nick Scholfield — —
25Jan14 Chl 21Hy C2NvHcCh 15K 6/11 33L, Dark Lover 11-10 8/1 Daryl Jacob 119 -22
Video 25Jan14 Don 17GS C1NvChG2 17K 5/5 15½L, Caid Du Berlais 11-4 100/30 Nick Scholfield 141 9
25Jan14 Chl 17Hy C14yHG2 17K 3/6 15L, Vicenzo Mio 11-7 11/10F Daryl Jacob 131 -6
Video 25Jan14 Don 20GS C3HcH 5K 2/12 15L, Mcllhatton 11-4 15/2 Nick Scholfield 125 9
Video 24Jan14 Don 20GS C5MdH 2K 9/17 66L, Sergeant Thunder 11-5 3/1 Daryl Jacob — —
Video 24Jan14 Don 25GS C3HcH 5K 3/4 42L, Atlantic Roller 11-6 13/8F Daryl Jacob — —
Video 24Jan14 Don 17GS C4NvH 3K 5/18 22L, Varom 11-4 2/1F Daryl Jacob — —
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C3NvH 5K 3/7 18L, Ceasar Milan 11-2 7/2 Sam Twiston-Davies 110 -10
Video 18Jan14 Asc 17Hy C1ChG1 59K 3/7 26L, Kauto Stone 11-7 b 16/1 Sam Twiston-Davies 145 -14
Video 18Jan14 Tau 17Hy C3NvHcCh 7K 2/6 ¾L, Sound Investment 11-7 t 7/4F Ryan Mahon 130 6
Video 18Jan14 Hay 25Hy C1HcChG2 28K F/10 The Minack 11-5 12/1 Daryl Jacob — —
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C2HcCh 31K 2/7 5L, Grandioso 11-5 t 4/1J Harry Derham 155 6
Video 18Jan14 Asc 22Hy C2HcCh 31K 1/7 5L, Bury Parade 11-6 h1 11/2
one winner since 18 th jan buy some tissues too wipe that egg off your faced or call wonga loans
some off these postings are hilarious !
differentdrum
differentdrum 26 Jan 14 10:45 Joined: 05 Oct 11 | Topic/replies: 1,867 | Blogger: differentdrum's blog
Really? How many of his races has he lead 6f out in? I suspect hardly any. Most of the time he would have been asked to pick up the leader on the run to the last or even after.
differentdrum 26 Jan 14 10:45 Joined: 05 Oct 11 | Topic/replies: 1,867 | Blogger: differentdrum's blog
Really? How many of his races has he lead 6f out in? I suspect hardly any. Most of the time he would have been asked to pick up the leader on the run to the last or even after.
18/01/14 1/5 Virak (FR) Tau 19f Hvy C3 Jack Sherwood (7) 5/1
18/01/14 2/6 Ptit Zig (FR) Hayd 16f Hvy C1 D A Jacob Evs
18/01/14 1/9 Irish Saint (FR) Asc 19f Hvy C1 N Fehily 6/1
18/01/14 1/5 Benvolio (IRE) Hayd 21f Hvy C2 D A Jacob 11/8
Also 18 th January
18/01/14 2/6 Ptit Zig (FR) Hayd 16f Hvy C1 D A Jacob Evs
18/01/14 1/9 Irish Saint (FR) Asc 19f Hvy C1 N Fehily 6/1
18/01/14 1/5 Benvolio (IRE) Hayd 21f Hvy C2 D A Jacob 11/8
Also 18 th January
eh i said in my post since the 18th inandout horses have went off the boil since then fact m8
Big Bucks WILL hose up in World Hurdle imo. Personally thought it was good(not great) comeback run and STD just got there too soon(hindsight is a wonderful thing). Apart from AP nothing will get near him. 6/4 was a gift and laying at 1/2 was also obvious thing to do (sorry about the aftertiming 
). 3/1 after the race for WH thanks very much 
Hopefully AP goes for CH or if Mrs Ricci gets her way The Mares race . GL ALL
). 3/1 after the race for WH thanks very much Hopefully AP goes for CH or if Mrs Ricci gets her way The Mares race . GL ALL
Nicholls horses usually go quiet before Festival, so wouldn't worry too much but the sooner he gets STD or imo Townend as stable jockey the better. Lac Fontana fairly finished yesterday the fekker i backed the 2nd 
Big Bucks lost the race the way it was ridden no question about it...most people know that's not the way to ride the horse.
Actually think STD got it right. BB is not a speed horse...always finds a terrific amount off the bridle. Just look at his last world hurdle win when he took up very early and broke the speed horses and non stayers on the turn back for home.
Yesterday's race was falling apart quickly...made sense to go for it so far out and give the horse what he what he really needed - a solid pre Cheltenham workout.
Nicholls even admitted b4 the race that if he had done things differently he would've gotten 1 more racecourse gallop into BB before yesterday....I suspect he thought the horse's sheer class would've pulled him through....he eluded to this on the morning line when Tom was making his case for Boston Bob and he said something like - yeah but he beat 130, 140 horses last time....that's not up there with what BB's is capable off ie 170+ performances.
Pretty similar situation to Silvinaco imo....said pre haydock the horse was bang on but then after the king George win said - I just knew if I had him spot on at Haydock he wouldn't have won today....bit of kick in the arse for punters but I'm guessing its the same with Big Bucks.
The whole team would be disappointed it....who wouldn't be? he won a zillion races over hurdles and finally lost his unbeaten tag yesterday....got to be a little shock to system....but they got what they wanted - a solid work out and its now all roads back to the Festival.
The more worrying thing about yesterdays race for me was the fact AT FISHERS CROSS couldn't even beat Knockbara Beau.....Big Bucks has excuses with his fitness but what the hell is AFC's excuse? That's even more desperate for me.
Yesterday's race was falling apart quickly...made sense to go for it so far out and give the horse what he what he really needed - a solid pre Cheltenham workout.
Nicholls even admitted b4 the race that if he had done things differently he would've gotten 1 more racecourse gallop into BB before yesterday....I suspect he thought the horse's sheer class would've pulled him through....he eluded to this on the morning line when Tom was making his case for Boston Bob and he said something like - yeah but he beat 130, 140 horses last time....that's not up there with what BB's is capable off ie 170+ performances.
Pretty similar situation to Silvinaco imo....said pre haydock the horse was bang on but then after the king George win said - I just knew if I had him spot on at Haydock he wouldn't have won today....bit of kick in the arse for punters but I'm guessing its the same with Big Bucks.
The whole team would be disappointed it....who wouldn't be? he won a zillion races over hurdles and finally lost his unbeaten tag yesterday....got to be a little shock to system....but they got what they wanted - a solid work out and its now all roads back to the Festival.
The more worrying thing about yesterdays race for me was the fact AT FISHERS CROSS couldn't even beat Knockbara Beau.....Big Bucks has excuses with his fitness but what the hell is AFC's excuse? That's even more desperate for me.
Ruby knew when to get out. That was a clue in itself.
Fishers cross has been under a cloud for months and that has been well documented.
Is Reynard being serious here.
most people know that's not the way to ride the horse.
It`s a bit late now Reynard, but Big Bucks has done rather well being ridden in a similar way. ?
most people know that's not the way to ride the horse.
It`s a bit late now Reynard, but Big Bucks has done rather well being ridden in a similar way. ?
I said on the "back or lay" post that it would run to 160...............I also said that K Beau would keep on as the others folded...
I've just cottoned on to the thread title. I remember a race many moons ago from Hong Kong I think it was. The horse was most definitely not supposed to be trying but nobody told the horse. The poor jockey spent the whole race trying to do his best Boston Strangler impression all to no avail. All the way up the straight he was casting increasingly anxious glances back towards the field which receded further and further into the distance. All seemed lost as they entered the final furlong with the jockey now needing binoculars to see his toiling rivals and then he jumped off the horse.
mange
Well done on your prediction but if you're right that has Knockara running to about 154.
Well done on your prediction but if you're right that has Knockara running to about 154.
FUNNY ............just looked at the result to compile an answer
K Beau 154
BB 160..................RPR
I thought I was good BUT
K Beau 154
BB 160..................RPR
I thought I was good BUT
I do not think his defeat was the jockeys fault...and he was trying
I suspect both BB and AFC will come on for the festival
but looking at the winner the form of the race did not inspire much confidence
I suspect both BB and AFC will come on for the festival
but looking at the winner the form of the race did not inspire much confidence
Angel..ok put it this way... RUBY would have won the race
calm down bigmart ye mug......plot and lost springs to mind... he gave it a shocker of aride.....end of!
If Sam had waited and then Big Bucks hit his flat spot between the last and 2nd last and got beat 3/4L the moaners would be up in arms about him not kicking on.
Reynard, yes Ruby would just have squeezed Big Bucks along and gone to the front between the 3rd last and 2nd last and won 1/2L all out, but Ruby knows the horse and is a better jockey than Sam. This is why BB was 6/5 and not 5/6, punters need to assess before they pile in.
Reynard, yes Ruby would just have squeezed Big Bucks along and gone to the front between the 3rd last and 2nd last and won 1/2L all out, but Ruby knows the horse and is a better jockey than Sam. This is why BB was 6/5 and not 5/6, punters need to assess before they pile in.
No idea if it would have won but I have never seen it ridden that way before, usually held up until the last hurdle. So unless he was told to do it has to go down as a ill judged ride. IMHO.
George
Have you ever seen Big Bucks ridden without being drunk?
Have you ever seen Big Bucks ridden without being drunk?
usually held up until the last hurdle
Disputed lead until strode ahead on bridle after 3 out, canter
Chased leaders, led 3 out, clear approaching last, easily (op 1-5)
Tracked leaders, went 2nd 9th, narrow lead after 3 out, urged along and quickened after 2 out, hung left before last where pressed, drifted right flat but stayed on mightily (op 4-5 tchd 10-11 in places and 8-11 in places)
Guess the name of this horse George?
Disputed lead until strode ahead on bridle after 3 out, canter
Chased leaders, led 3 out, clear approaching last, easily (op 1-5)
Tracked leaders, went 2nd 9th, narrow lead after 3 out, urged along and quickened after 2 out, hung left before last where pressed, drifted right flat but stayed on mightily (op 4-5 tchd 10-11 in places and 8-11 in places)
Guess the name of this horse George?
All valid opinions but the FACT is STD will win World Hurdle on Big Bucks
Yes^^ by taking it up 3 out again, because this is how the horse is ridden.
He was riding to instructions, give the guy a break
he was riding to instructions even if they were birarre , since when was the jockey told to be aggresive on the horse
At the start of the race Carrot is my guess, i think that`s how it works.
Ruby would av won on Our Conor...........
thats how mad it is on ere!
thats how mad it is on ere!
if me auntie had bollocks she would be my uncle,ive never heard such ****.most of ye on here have never put a head collar on a horse let alone ridden professionally,yet suddenly everyone seems to know how the horse should of been ridden.big bucks is 11 and not run for 14 months,sams been told how the horse needs to be ridden and according to paul that's what the instructions were.the horse ran his heart out and had no more to give.to blame same is waffle and pocket talk at its best.now lets hope he turns up at the festival and gives his all again and wins.if not hes been some horse for us to admire over the years
CASHINVEST
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
What was noticeable was how well BB travelled for STD, horse usually hit a flat spot under Ruby, but yesterday always travelled like the winner until it blew up in the straight.
CASHINVEST
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
Worst ride of all time - what a load of Sh1te. Has the OP never seen Fred Hutsby ride?
Rat will be asking in a min.."how many winners have you ridden"
what i meant was the horse has all ways been ridden patiently so unless it was short of work why would nicholls tell the jockey to ride it any other way
Carrot, watch the 2012 World Hurdle and then come back with your comment/retraction
yorkie he never gave it a shocking ride he gave it a great ride , if he had held it up it wd have got beaten ,you no how much energy they expend making up ground , Cheltenham as a rule of thumb does not suit hold up tactics , even on good ground , that why mr joe 90 timmy murphy , gets beat so often , they make up ground nothing left for the hill , big bucks just did not get up the hill after over 400 days off, coming back from injury against race fit rivals , the horse is always up with the van , like I said they held it up once it was well beat , lot off punters talking through pockets, trying too way blame , try Wonga loans al give you 20p go call them ! the horse was beaten by fitter rivals on the day , take your losses with dignity you got a great run , but fitness told in the end , end off chapter !
Back it in world hurdle get your money back simples.
He was riding to instructions, give the guy a break
most sensible comment on this thread
well done mightymac
Nichols did not quite know where he stood with BB, after his absence, until he got him on to the racecourse
so I doubt Sam was told to win at all costs...his target is the World Hurdle
most sensible comment on this thread
well done mightymac
Nichols did not quite know where he stood with BB, after his absence, until he got him on to the racecourse
so I doubt Sam was told to win at all costs...his target is the World Hurdle
Brave young man to take the ride, champion jockey for at least 5 years. took the opportunity when others cried off. Connections could have had Ruby on board if the horse was ready
CASHINVEST
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
looks like no-one laid in running the worst ride of all time...WALOFS
BIG BUCKS WORST RIDE OF ALL TIME
Saying as it hit 1.24 lets see how shrewd you really are..post your in running lay saying you observed the 'worst ride of all time'...
1.01 your full of shyte
looks like no-one laid in running the worst ride of all time...WALOFS
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