wise dan..

even money about a rag that has been winning mickey mouse races over in the states is ludicrous. wise dan wont know whats hit him tonight now he is put up against a real group 1 horse in olympic glory.

You are what's known in the industry as a mug punter. Happy to take your money all day long backing Olympic Glory @ 6/1 win and 6/5 place.

Will Olympic Glory be happy on this ground? Surely not

Spot on brigust1. That run behind midnight cloud better than anything Wise Dan has produced IMO

Olympic Glory that is

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even money about a rag that has been winning mickey mouse races over in the states is ludicrous. wise dan wont know whats hit him tonight now he is put up against a real group 1 horse in olympic glory.

Yeah  only Excelebration, Moonlight Cloud and Animal Kingdom behind him last year

Great horse.
My two lays in the race came 2nd and 3rd at ridiculous prices         

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brigust1 03 Nov 13 00:59 Joined: 07 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 7,247 | Blogger: brigust1's blog
Actually JMC tonight WD won a race from 3 horses who have won only a single Group 1 win between them. And that was possibly a lucky win on the Polytrack.

Why not compare it with Magician winning from a multiple Group 1 winner, a multiple Group 1 winner was 3rd and a multiple Group 1 winner was 4th.

You believe the hype if you want.


What are you on ranting on about? Just because youve lost money tonight dont start jumping down people necks!

Maybe engage your brain, read my post again and the quoted post.

Adrenalin junkie me hello.
Just going to play a round of Russian roulette.

a few embarrassed posters here

Wise Dan is a heck of a good miler round them N. American turf tracks

wd backers

probably did not show his best Olympic Glory, their tracks don't suit all horses

brigust1 03 Nov 13 01:17 Joined: 07 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 7,250 | Blogger: brigust1's blog
Firstly JMC I haven't lost tonight and secondly 'what the f u k are you talking about?'

My point is Wise Dan will get all the publicity for beating trees whereas The Magician beat a proper field.

And I think you will find in last years race he beat Animal Kingdom who had only won a claimer on turf and Obviously who hadn't won a Grade 1 eitherExcited

The really sad thing here is your actually just trying to argue for no reason, are you lonely or something??? Your writing points that have no relevance to what I wrote. What has Magician got to do with anything????
Clearly you are sore on backing Olympic Glory dont be getting anger with others for your poor decisions! If your just lonely start a thread with your "points" and stop randomly ranting

Dom he wasn't the 2nd best horse in my opinion as many will know. But the trees thing was more about this years race, If you took Olympic Glory and Wise Dan out it wasn't a Grade 1 race at all. So when OG clearly never ran his race WD is all we will hear about. Unlike The Magician where The Fugue ran her race.

I did back OG but I also backed WD as a saver actually. The rest I will leave with you. And you think I am aguing when you are highlighting everything in black and abusing people ffs. And you suggest I am lonely?

brigust1 can always get a job as an after dinner speaker with fraudy

The mile will be interesting. I have never rated Wise Dan and thought we would beat him this time but had hoped the other Hannon horse would come. Still there you are. I see nothing in the home team beating him so it looks like Olympic Glory at their prices and Wise Dan at ours. Again given the prices I will make OG my winner.

A man with a point to prove or just very lonely

Still you can post all you want your initial rant at me was deffo caused by you doing your conkers on Olympic Glory!!!!

Wise Dan is a front runner/up with the pace type and will hug the rail if drawn low and it gets out well but tonight it had a poor draw, didn't get out and could never get to the front. If you then factor in it had to come wide and seemed to take the bend awkwardly (probably due to having to do its racing far too early as a result of everything previously mentioned) then it's a testament to the horse's class that it was still able to get up and win.

The horse was in trouble due to the disadvantages it faced and that can close the margin of victory between better horses and lesser ones and it would be daft to take that run on face value.

They've not all been great shakes brigust1 but the horse can only beat what rivals it and Excelebration, Moonlight Cloud, Animal Kingdom and Olympic Glory are all very good horses as ones we know of anyway if maybe not as familiar with the US horses.

Regardless though you don't win as many as WD has unless fairly useful.

Don't be a lost soul Ebul.

I know Wise Dan has won lots of races but it is what you beat that matters in my opinion. And I think these races need to be put into context.

In Wise Dan's last 10 wins the horses that finished 2nd to him in those races have won a total of ONE Group one race between them on that particular surface throughout their careers. That must tell you just how weak these races are and the quality of the opposition against him.

It is true he has beaten potentially the 3 best European runners in the last 2 seasons including Olympic Glory, Moonlight Cloud and Excelebration. And in some ways the form adds up though Excelebration, Moonlight Cloud and Ciyscape. However some say there were excuses for the poor consistently running of these horses but if that is their true running what do you think it says about our top milers over the last 3 or 4 years?

And I'm sorry your point about Magician is silly.