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Secret CD blows lid off race-fixing (Mumbai Mirror)
Secretly-recorded conversation between two British-born jockeys allegedly pre-determining the outcome of races in Mumbai has blown the lid off the sport's biggest race-fixing racket in recent years.
In response to the anonymously recorded CD that landed on his desk in September this year, Royal Western India Turf Club chairman Khusroo Dhunjibhoy called for a meeting with the Turf Club's managing committee and the Board of Appeal as also nominated and professional stewards last Monday.
The authenticity of the CD had already been verified. The alleged conversation was recorded on Saturday, February 13, 2010, between jockeys Martin Dwyer and Paul Mulrennan. In the course of the ten-minute-long conversation — this reporter has seen the transcripts — the two men discussed the possible outcome of the Byramjee Jeejeebhoy Eclipse Stakes of India to be run the next day on Valentine's Day.
Martin Dwyer who allegedly initiated the call tried to convince his fellow jockey about the superiority of Icebreaker, one of the six contenders in the race over another horse Onassis, whichMulrennanwastoridethedayof the February 2010 race.
"She (Icebreaker ) is as good as the horse (Becket) I rode in the Derby if you compare...I am going to back the filly (Icebreaker)." He then goes on to erase Mulrennan's doubts saying, "She should win, she is a good filly mate."
While Icebreaker is owned by Zavaray Poonawalla and his family, Onassis ran under the joint ownership of Vijay Shirke, K N Dhunjibhoy and Farouq Rattonsey.
Dwyer also advises Mulrennan to keep David Allan (Icebreaker's jockey) out of the loop saying 'and leave David out of the loop, he's f****** doesn't have the brain. He is f****** terrified of Paddy (Icebreaker's trainer S Padmanabhan), he just does what is told to him (and) tries to win every race after what happened to him last year'.
Later in the conversation, Mulrennan confides in Dwyer that "Pesi Shroff doesn't even want to run this horse Onassis but the owners want to run the horse."
Dwyer replies: "That is great because your horse (Onassis) is pushing up the price (odds of Icebreaker) there. There is no way I will back that horse (Onassis) within a week, there is no way...so you do what you want, you can f****** back the horse (Onassis) if you want..... she (Icebreaker) is too good'.
Mulrennan then ends that topic saying, 'So I will try and sit..."
A senior RWITC official who was present at the meeting convened by Dhunjibhoy, told this newspaper: "We believe David Allan, who rode Icebreaker and went on to win the Eclipse Stakes, is unaware of what had transpiredbetweenDwyerandMulrennan . Mulrennan, who was astride Onassis, never makes any headway in the race before finishing fourth. These jockeys apparently worked in tandem for their own mutual benefit. We can only speculate on how many such incidents have taken place before and after the Eclipse Stakes' race," he said.
Since the race was run three years back, RWITC stewards cannot take any retrospective penal action. But the RWITC is taking these revelations seriously . "We recently decided to implement a whistle-blower policy and any vital information, like the CD, is welcome . This helps us protect the sport's integrity,"said Khushroo Dhunjibhoy.
"No incriminating evidence like this was ever found against foreign jockeys but this recording busts the myth that they don't indulge in any wrongdoing. We have learnt our lesson and will make every effort to ensure that professionals, both Indian and foreign, don't violate the integrity of the sport. Owners will now have to be extremely careful about the credentials of the foreign jockeys they want to hire."
"Personally, I was devastated when Iheard this conversation since Mulrennan was retained by us for that season," said Dhunjibhoy.
Martin Dwyer, who won the prestigious Epsom Derby in 2006, has already been indicted for malpractice by the RWITC for a separate incident.
On February 17 this year, he escaped an attack by furious punters who believed he had thrown a race while he rode the race favourite, a horse named Ice Age. He was handed a 56-day riding ban last month. However, RWITC's counterpart the British Horseracing Authority, considered Dwyer's appeal against this decision favourably, and declined to reciprocate his punishment citing procedural lacunae in RWITC's disciplinary hearing.
When we tried to get in touch with Dwyer for this story, we were told he was unavailable as he was away at the races. Mulrennan too could not be contacted as he had taken a tumble while racing and was bed-ridden with extensive injuries.
Secretly-recorded conversation between two British-born jockeys allegedly pre-determining the outcome of races in Mumbai has blown the lid off the sport's biggest race-fixing racket in recent years.
In response to the anonymously recorded CD that landed on his desk in September this year, Royal Western India Turf Club chairman Khusroo Dhunjibhoy called for a meeting with the Turf Club's managing committee and the Board of Appeal as also nominated and professional stewards last Monday.
The authenticity of the CD had already been verified. The alleged conversation was recorded on Saturday, February 13, 2010, between jockeys Martin Dwyer and Paul Mulrennan. In the course of the ten-minute-long conversation — this reporter has seen the transcripts — the two men discussed the possible outcome of the Byramjee Jeejeebhoy Eclipse Stakes of India to be run the next day on Valentine's Day.
Martin Dwyer who allegedly initiated the call tried to convince his fellow jockey about the superiority of Icebreaker, one of the six contenders in the race over another horse Onassis, whichMulrennanwastoridethedayof the February 2010 race.
"She (Icebreaker ) is as good as the horse (Becket) I rode in the Derby if you compare...I am going to back the filly (Icebreaker)." He then goes on to erase Mulrennan's doubts saying, "She should win, she is a good filly mate."
While Icebreaker is owned by Zavaray Poonawalla and his family, Onassis ran under the joint ownership of Vijay Shirke, K N Dhunjibhoy and Farouq Rattonsey.
Dwyer also advises Mulrennan to keep David Allan (Icebreaker's jockey) out of the loop saying 'and leave David out of the loop, he's f****** doesn't have the brain. He is f****** terrified of Paddy (Icebreaker's trainer S Padmanabhan), he just does what is told to him (and) tries to win every race after what happened to him last year'.
Later in the conversation, Mulrennan confides in Dwyer that "Pesi Shroff doesn't even want to run this horse Onassis but the owners want to run the horse."
Dwyer replies: "That is great because your horse (Onassis) is pushing up the price (odds of Icebreaker) there. There is no way I will back that horse (Onassis) within a week, there is no way...so you do what you want, you can f****** back the horse (Onassis) if you want..... she (Icebreaker) is too good'.
Mulrennan then ends that topic saying, 'So I will try and sit..."
A senior RWITC official who was present at the meeting convened by Dhunjibhoy, told this newspaper: "We believe David Allan, who rode Icebreaker and went on to win the Eclipse Stakes, is unaware of what had transpiredbetweenDwyerandMulrennan . Mulrennan, who was astride Onassis, never makes any headway in the race before finishing fourth. These jockeys apparently worked in tandem for their own mutual benefit. We can only speculate on how many such incidents have taken place before and after the Eclipse Stakes' race," he said.
Since the race was run three years back, RWITC stewards cannot take any retrospective penal action. But the RWITC is taking these revelations seriously . "We recently decided to implement a whistle-blower policy and any vital information, like the CD, is welcome . This helps us protect the sport's integrity,"said Khushroo Dhunjibhoy.
"No incriminating evidence like this was ever found against foreign jockeys but this recording busts the myth that they don't indulge in any wrongdoing. We have learnt our lesson and will make every effort to ensure that professionals, both Indian and foreign, don't violate the integrity of the sport. Owners will now have to be extremely careful about the credentials of the foreign jockeys they want to hire."
"Personally, I was devastated when Iheard this conversation since Mulrennan was retained by us for that season," said Dhunjibhoy.
Martin Dwyer, who won the prestigious Epsom Derby in 2006, has already been indicted for malpractice by the RWITC for a separate incident.
On February 17 this year, he escaped an attack by furious punters who believed he had thrown a race while he rode the race favourite, a horse named Ice Age. He was handed a 56-day riding ban last month. However, RWITC's counterpart the British Horseracing Authority, considered Dwyer's appeal against this decision favourably, and declined to reciprocate his punishment citing procedural lacunae in RWITC's disciplinary hearing.
When we tried to get in touch with Dwyer for this story, we were told he was unavailable as he was away at the races. Mulrennan too could not be contacted as he had taken a tumble while racing and was bed-ridden with extensive injuries.
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Perhaps one of our 'big-balled' investigative racing journalists will get a plane over to India, go directly to the HQ of the Royal Western India Turf Club, demand to hear this alleged CD, and come back and report his / her findings.
If the call content has been quoted verbatim, they have some serious question to answer.
There surely can't be any BHA statute of limitations, on organized racing corruption.
This story has most likely emerged because, O Dwyer walked away from the last episode,
so looks like they're after him. That last ride stunk, despite what the industry pro's professed
There surely can't be any BHA statute of limitations, on organized racing corruption.
This story has most likely emerged because, O Dwyer walked away from the last episode,
so looks like they're after him. That last ride stunk, despite what the industry pro's professed
Maybe someone should get the CD and upload it to YouTube, both culprits would denied it's they voice and BHA would try and close down YouTube. 
@paulmstruthers "We are aware of the article that appeared in some Indian publications. Given the potentially libellous nature of the article we are consulting lawyers."
This is still making me lol.
This is still making me lol.
"Several questions are not addressed in the report, notably how the recording came to be made and why it has not emerged until now
RWITC stewards recently found Dwyer guilty of not trying on a horse this year and banned him for 53 days, only to learn that the British Horseracing Authority refused to uphold that ban, an outcome described in the Indian press as "a major body blow to the RWITC's regulatory system"
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My initial impression - on reading this article - was that it could well be ...
'tit for tat' job - by the Indian Authorities - to (try and) justify', in some way, their original action taken against Dwyer.
- and a bit of a 'ham-fisted' one at that, too.
I may well be wrong - But equally ...
I would not be taking anything that the Indian Authorities put out as being verbatim, and kosher.
A country full of easily-emotional, erratic, irrational, and chaotic people.
RWITC stewards recently found Dwyer guilty of not trying on a horse this year and banned him for 53 days, only to learn that the British Horseracing Authority refused to uphold that ban, an outcome described in the Indian press as "a major body blow to the RWITC's regulatory system"
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My initial impression - on reading this article - was that it could well be ...
'tit for tat' job - by the Indian Authorities - to (try and) justify', in some way, their original action taken against Dwyer.
- and a bit of a 'ham-fisted' one at that, too.
I may well be wrong - But equally ...
I would not be taking anything that the Indian Authorities put out as being verbatim, and kosher.
A country full of easily-emotional, erratic, irrational, and chaotic people.
I think we will be able to detect any Indian accent if they have faked it.
"A country full of easily-emotional, erratic, irrational, and chaotic people."
What! more than Great Britain?
What! more than Great Britain?
If they have reported the existence and content of the cd, they will surely have to
release it to the public. If it is as stated, they will have to explain themselves, the BHA can't smother
this story, like the Zarooni debacle.
release it to the public. If it is as stated, they will have to explain themselves, the BHA can't smother
this story, like the Zarooni debacle.
Onlooker even if you're right its astonishing that the BHA have no plans to investigate or look for a copy of the recording considering both individuals are BHA licensees.
So if they were doing it in India why not here?.
So if they were doing it in India why not here?.
"Since the race was run three years back, RWITC stewards cannot take any retrospective penal action."
Why is there a time limit, if they are claiming to have evidence of "wrongdoing" / jockey(s) betting
Why is there a time limit, if they are claiming to have evidence of "wrongdoing" / jockey(s) betting
Sorry but I dont read the RP, but have they reported anything about these
revelations? and if not why not? apologies if they have.
revelations? and if not why not? apologies if they have.
silver....its naïve to think jockeys don't bet.........a guy who I worked with his dad owned an horse and he told me the jockey was having 500 on it....the horse ended up 2nd in a gr1 race
I think the BHA will use the time delay as an excuse also, struthers will clearly make it difficult and expensive to pursue it.
Amazing, in this instant media world we now live, our trade paper has yet to report this story.
Mr Millington's droogies slow off the mark, or........
Mr Millington's droogies slow off the mark, or........
cardiff I couldn't give two hoots if a jockey backs in a horse race out for a drink with the lads but when jockeys are backing other horses in races that they're riding in now thats a major problem.
In that case motley, us crayon pushers must keep this subject at the top.
If this CD exists and what they are claiming to have been said is true, then this is a MAJOR STORY and surely there are investigative journalists out there who want to check this out.
Does Andy Davies still work for Panarama!?
Does Andy Davies still work for Panarama!?
silver......to be fair he was telling me it was so certain to win even the jockey was backing it..this was back in 1993....though the horse won an handicap at 9/1 but ended up 2nd though well beaten in a gr1..although it was beaten by a genuine champion
They don't trust our lot and who can blame em. Jocks can more or less do as they like over here.
We will do Chelsea,
the cd will emerge, I'm sure it will, then the BHA will have to act
the cd will emerge, I'm sure it will, then the BHA will have to act
supported Dwyer 100% in the recent case where he got a ban and pleased that the BHA threw it out.
But surely the BHA have a duty to investigate one of their own licensed jockeys possibly involved in practices that are strictly forbidden in probably all horseracing jurisdictions worldwide?
If a British citizen commits a crime or felony abroad, do British police or legal system ignore it because it didn't take place here?
Fully aware that plenty of jocks must bet on the races they ride in. But knowing and suspecting are different things, and if Dwyer / Mulrennan have been caught redhanded backing another horse in a race in which they are riding, how does that inspire you to ever bet in a race in which the are involved in the future?
But surely the BHA have a duty to investigate one of their own licensed jockeys possibly involved in practices that are strictly forbidden in probably all horseracing jurisdictions worldwide?
If a British citizen commits a crime or felony abroad, do British police or legal system ignore it because it didn't take place here?
Fully aware that plenty of jocks must bet on the races they ride in. But knowing and suspecting are different things, and if Dwyer / Mulrennan have been caught redhanded backing another horse in a race in which they are riding, how does that inspire you to ever bet in a race in which the are involved in the future?
If no action is being taken by the regulatory authority under whose jurisdiction this incident falls I'll be surprised if the BHA does anything at all other than to try and smother the story as best they can
Also perhaps gives some credence to the race riding ban invoked by the Indian authorities for the incident earlier this year and taints the view of the BHA in supporting (our) jockey and his claim of innocence!!
Since the race was run three years back, RWITC stewards cannot take any retrospective penal action.
And not because we'd otherwise have to produce this CD and let lawyers hear it and allow the public to judge its authenticity. Oh no.
And not because we'd otherwise have to produce this CD and let lawyers hear it and allow the public to judge its authenticity. Oh no.
... Or whether it actually exists.
screaming, reading the transcript of the recording it certainly sounds authentic particularly the bit about David Allan its hard to believe somebodies imagination made this conversation up?
Those were exactly my thoughts, silvergreaser, until, like Colombo, I suddenly realized there was just one thing bothering me about this case ... nobody has actually seen (or heard) the evidence.
p1 of the RP today, does not print the article. They mention in the event of a successful libel action against the paper they would expect to receive substantial damages. How do the RP know the libel laws and likely damages in India??
I would not have thought either jockey would have the resources to fund a libel action in India, Mulrennan has had a lot of injuries, and Dwyer spent money defending the earlier Indian action
I would not have thought either jockey would have the resources to fund a libel action in India, Mulrennan has had a lot of injuries, and Dwyer spent money defending the earlier Indian action
They'd sue for libel in London, if they can get PJA funding.
They'd sue for libel in London, if they can get PJA funding.
What would they be suing for?, if the newspaper has a copy of the conversation then it would put up a strong defence.
I presume both Mulrennan and Dwyer will say its not my voice on the recording as a defence, but by bringing a libel action might just be a double edged sword because the mainstream media will lash onto the story and bring very unwelcome attention to horse racing and the protaganists concerned.
Personally I hope they do bring a libel action could be just what the doctor ordered from a punters perspective.
I presume both Mulrennan and Dwyer will say its not my voice on the recording as a defence, but by bringing a libel action might just be a double edged sword because the mainstream media will lash onto the story and bring very unwelcome attention to horse racing and the protaganists concerned.
Personally I hope they do bring a libel action could be just what the doctor ordered from a punters perspective.
this reporter has seen the transcripts
In other words, the Mumbai Mirror, at least when it published the article, did not have the CD and had not even heard the conversation.
In other words, the Mumbai Mirror, at least when it published the article, did not have the CD and had not even heard the conversation.
I think race fixing in the UK was pretty common 30 years ago. "one race a day" was the quote I remember from a big bookie.
A bit harder now than when the Yorkshire maffia were on the loose.
There are still plenty of none jiggers, has anyone watching the markets on here can see.
Much harder to fix a race now I would imagine with the banning of mobiles, phone records, more cameras, private investigators etc.
Still disturbing to read that they might be at it abroad.
Another two I wont be using. David Allan might get a chance though.
A bit harder now than when the Yorkshire maffia were on the loose.
There are still plenty of none jiggers, has anyone watching the markets on here can see.
Much harder to fix a race now I would imagine with the banning of mobiles, phone records, more cameras, private investigators etc.
Still disturbing to read that they might be at it abroad.
Another two I wont be using. David Allan might get a chance though.
Ramruna how can they sue in London? The English courts have no power to make the Indian Newspaper appear here and even if they awarded damages how could they enforce the award? India would give them the 2 fingers.
I doubt if the PJA have the funds to assist and even if they did I do not think they would spend it on a libel action in India seeing as Jockeys have to pay for representation at the BHA
I doubt if the PJA have the funds to assist and even if they did I do not think they would spend it on a libel action in India seeing as Jockeys have to pay for representation at the BHA
Ramruna how can they sue in London? The English courts have no power to make the Indian Newspaper appear here and even if they awarded damages how could they enforce the award? India would give them the 2 fingers.
Perfectly possible for them to sue, and gain judgement, in London. I believe we have a reciprocal agreement with India which would allow them to enforce the judgment there.
The law was tightened up a bit in this area earlier this year though.
Perfectly possible for them to sue, and gain judgement, in London. I believe we have a reciprocal agreement with India which would allow them to enforce the judgment there.
The law was tightened up a bit in this area earlier this year though.
you would have expected the jockeys to have publicly denied the allegations by now, be interesting to see if dwyer says anything at winsor today
not mentioned on atr or on the racing post website.....shamefull
Send CD to BHA, PJA: RWITC members
Usman Rangeela, Mumbai Mirror | Oct 21, 2013, 09.55 AM IST
Secret CD blows lid off race-fixing
PUNE: Following the contents of the CD being published in this newspaper on Saturday, members of the Royal Western India Turf Club (RWITC) have beseeched the stewards' body with demands that the CD should be sent to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA) and the Professional Jockeys Association (PJA) also.
"Didn't the BHA cast doubts over our (RWITC's ) regulatory system by refusing to reciprocate Martin Dwyer's 56-day riding ban," a senior club member was overheard saying after confronting a steward on Saturday.
He also mentioned about PJA vehemently arguing about Dwyer's innocence.
"You must inform both these institution of this development and immediately send them a copy audio recording and its transcript. Let's then see how they deal with these professionals," this member quipped.
The RWITC's stewards' body will have a busy schedule this weekend as their previously scheduled meeting on Friday last to pore over the transcript of the alleged conversation between two British jockeys, the recording of which was provided to them by the club's chairman Khushroo Dhunjibhoy , was deferred and posted for hearing later on Saturday.
When the stewards' body meets for the last time during this Pune season, it will consider the necessary action or steps as demanded by the situation.
At the end of Saturday's racing here, the stewards also asked the stripes to hold a detailed inquiry into the running of Padmakosa, first favourite to win the race, which suddenly stopped racing midway during the 1000-metre race. Jockey NS Parmar, who was astride Padmakosa, had to dismount the filly about 400-metres from the winning post.
Padmakosa, who reportedly bled during the race, was kept under veterinary observation after she returned from the race.
The club's senior veterinary officer and the stripes submitted their individual reports to the stewards, who subsequently directed them to initiate a thorough investigation and file their report at the earliest.
Usman Rangeela, Mumbai Mirror | Oct 21, 2013, 09.55 AM IST
Secret CD blows lid off race-fixing
PUNE: Following the contents of the CD being published in this newspaper on Saturday, members of the Royal Western India Turf Club (RWITC) have beseeched the stewards' body with demands that the CD should be sent to the British Horseracing Authority (BHA) and the Professional Jockeys Association (PJA) also.
"Didn't the BHA cast doubts over our (RWITC's ) regulatory system by refusing to reciprocate Martin Dwyer's 56-day riding ban," a senior club member was overheard saying after confronting a steward on Saturday.
He also mentioned about PJA vehemently arguing about Dwyer's innocence.
"You must inform both these institution of this development and immediately send them a copy audio recording and its transcript. Let's then see how they deal with these professionals," this member quipped.
The RWITC's stewards' body will have a busy schedule this weekend as their previously scheduled meeting on Friday last to pore over the transcript of the alleged conversation between two British jockeys, the recording of which was provided to them by the club's chairman Khushroo Dhunjibhoy , was deferred and posted for hearing later on Saturday.
When the stewards' body meets for the last time during this Pune season, it will consider the necessary action or steps as demanded by the situation.
At the end of Saturday's racing here, the stewards also asked the stripes to hold a detailed inquiry into the running of Padmakosa, first favourite to win the race, which suddenly stopped racing midway during the 1000-metre race. Jockey NS Parmar, who was astride Padmakosa, had to dismount the filly about 400-metres from the winning post.
Padmakosa, who reportedly bled during the race, was kept under veterinary observation after she returned from the race.
The club's senior veterinary officer and the stripes submitted their individual reports to the stewards, who subsequently directed them to initiate a thorough investigation and file their report at the earliest.
This story is not going to away. If the indians send the CD to the BHA they must surely investigate? Would not be surprised if one of the red top's ran this story in the coming days. Obviously The Racing Post will be silent.
Max Clifford would be proud of comrade Struthers. Once you bring the "we're consulting our lawyers" B/S into it you know they can then turn down every request for interviews.
all aboard the gravy train chooo choooo
fair play to chris cook again not for the first time the only one not scared of his own shadow
fair play to chris cook again not for the first time the only one not scared of his own shadow
can only assume that the Indian Turf Club were out to get Dwyer after receiving the CD but being told they could do nothing about it as it was too long ago? Though I find it odd that their rules have timebarred them from doing so if that is the case.
Can totally understand how they came to ban him for 2 months now, payback time.
Can totally understand how they came to ban him for 2 months now, payback time.
Every jock must feel hacked right off over this ...
the only sport in the world where the participants are 100% free of any criticism from the media. and please be aware, it is a very corrupt sport. one of the worst.
How many jockeys have a bet? I have no idea, but in their shoes I would find it pretty hard not too.
Graham Bradley got done for investing a tenner at Cartmel, but it is not something that crops up very often.
Graham Bradley got done for investing a tenner at Cartmel, but it is not something that crops up very often.
the low prize money in UK lends itself to rampant corruption. of course they bet all the time. the game is rancid.
americas leading jockey in prize money won is still riding. it was mentioned the other nite on ATR that he has won 290m USD in prize money. yes thats 290M USD...............if he gets 10%, thats 29m. now theres an incentive to behave yourself.
americas leading jockey in prize money won is still riding. it was mentioned the other nite on ATR that he has won 290m USD in prize money. yes thats 290M USD...............if he gets 10%, thats 29m. now theres an incentive to behave yourself.
Any jockey betting at present , after the high profile witch-hunts of recent years has to be seriously daft in the head.
Martin Dwyer saga threatens to damage Anglo-Indian relations (Telegraph)(J McGrath)
Jockeys take legal advice over Mumbai allegations as BHA claims flaws in way original case was heard
Relations between the once-close racing communities of India and Britain have been strained to breaking point with two reports featuring the Derby-winning jockey Martin Dwyer published in the past week.
Dwyer and fellow jockey Paul Mulrennan are taking legal advice over an article that appeared in a Mumbai newspaper on Friday alleging their involvement in wrongdoing.
Both were named, and the allegations, which are potentially damaging to their reputations and careers are understood to have all been denied by them.
The second report was an official one, the findings of the British Horseracing Authority, which set out its reasons for not reciprocating the ban imposed on Dwyer by the Royal Western India Turf Club over his riding of the filly Ice Age in a race at Mahalaxmi in Mumbai last February.
In a detailed explanation of their reasons, the disciplinary panel, chaired by Timothy Charlton QC, found that Dwyer’s case had been prejudiced by the chairman of the RWITC panel Adi Narielwala, who had requested that the tribunal members examine still photographs taken of a recording of the race.
Narielwala reportedly expressed the view to his panel that this was “a certain case of malpractice”.
In its report, the BHA’s disciplinary panel, concluded: “Though this may seem at first glance to be a purely procedural matter, it is far from a mere technicality.
“Dwyer had a basic right to an unbiased evaluation of his case.
"Nobody knows what the result would have been if all six of the board of appeal members had approached it with open minds.”
To date neither Narielwala or the RWITC are reported to have commented on the findings of the BHA report
The timing of the publication of the Mumbai newspaper allegations – claimed to be from recordings on a CD supplied by an anonymous source – as well as the BHA findings, which stretch to 36 points, are certain to inflame an already volatile situation.
Paul Struthers, the chief executive of the Professional Jockeys’ Association, again called for all jockeys contemplating a professional engagement India to be cautious.
“It is not up to me to tell members what to do, but again I advise them to be very careful, and to be aware of who they are riding for.
“There are a lot of people [in India] with their noses out of joint over what has happened recently,” he said.
Jockeys take legal advice over Mumbai allegations as BHA claims flaws in way original case was heard
Relations between the once-close racing communities of India and Britain have been strained to breaking point with two reports featuring the Derby-winning jockey Martin Dwyer published in the past week.
Dwyer and fellow jockey Paul Mulrennan are taking legal advice over an article that appeared in a Mumbai newspaper on Friday alleging their involvement in wrongdoing.
Both were named, and the allegations, which are potentially damaging to their reputations and careers are understood to have all been denied by them.
The second report was an official one, the findings of the British Horseracing Authority, which set out its reasons for not reciprocating the ban imposed on Dwyer by the Royal Western India Turf Club over his riding of the filly Ice Age in a race at Mahalaxmi in Mumbai last February.
In a detailed explanation of their reasons, the disciplinary panel, chaired by Timothy Charlton QC, found that Dwyer’s case had been prejudiced by the chairman of the RWITC panel Adi Narielwala, who had requested that the tribunal members examine still photographs taken of a recording of the race.
Narielwala reportedly expressed the view to his panel that this was “a certain case of malpractice”.
In its report, the BHA’s disciplinary panel, concluded: “Though this may seem at first glance to be a purely procedural matter, it is far from a mere technicality.
“Dwyer had a basic right to an unbiased evaluation of his case.
"Nobody knows what the result would have been if all six of the board of appeal members had approached it with open minds.”
To date neither Narielwala or the RWITC are reported to have commented on the findings of the BHA report
The timing of the publication of the Mumbai newspaper allegations – claimed to be from recordings on a CD supplied by an anonymous source – as well as the BHA findings, which stretch to 36 points, are certain to inflame an already volatile situation.
Paul Struthers, the chief executive of the Professional Jockeys’ Association, again called for all jockeys contemplating a professional engagement India to be cautious.
“It is not up to me to tell members what to do, but again I advise them to be very careful, and to be aware of who they are riding for.
“There are a lot of people [in India] with their noses out of joint over what has happened recently,” he said.
for me paul bittar is an absolute digrace to british racing , a guy bleating bout whip rules, pr bullshit to disguise the corruption that is rife in the game, this person bittar on a daily basis refuses to deal with jocks not riding out for a place and jocks stopping horses left right and centre, people on this forum knew years ago bout betfair eddie antics but the concealment kept going for ages, eddie was stopping horses regularly and nothing done, the stats is mind boggling how favs finish just outside the places regularly , its amazing how favs finish 4th instead of placing but this tuilip lets the rancid caper go on, the chooo chooo media for the last mths have painted dwyer as an angel, and not a word on atr bout this new evidence, what other sport would let this happen, unfortunately the bha with bittar at the helm are a disgrace, we have the most corrupt game now in the world, its just totally rancid the situation now
strange we got 2 Aussies who worked in Hong Kong who take no prisoners when it comes to jockeys and trainers, they arrive in Britain and they become the most cuddly kittens you could ever rare?.
dont worry lads the carpet at BHA HQ affectionately known as "rug kilimanjaro" will take care of things .
Mick Silvergreaser do you share bunkbeds? Hope you alternate . Have either of you ever put a view on what you fancy for a race beforehand ?
Do either of you gamble?
Do either of you gamble?
Why whats the problem luckyducky giving my opinion on this issue, there is possible/probable? jockey collusion at work an issue that should concern all punters.
Adrian Nicholls was hauled in by the BHA for a tweet so surely these 2 can be asked for an explanation and possibly charged with bringing the game into disrepute?
well done uk racing media for keeping the lid on this
shocking , any other sport would have this headline news
shocking , any other sport would have this headline news
totally agree hello barely a whimper out of them.
mick - you enjoy mindless rants don't you - you do realise that Paul Bittar has only been in the job a few months? Doing a good job as far as I can see.
He will be in the job 2 years in January hardly a few months?, the BHA's handling of the Godolphin steroids issue and the Sungate 9 from Newmarket would hardly inspire confidence in his leadership, lift the rug please and lets sweep it under as quick as we can, not to mention their refusal to investigate the Indian newspaper revelations.
the problem here is that the BHA have just decided not to reciprocate dwyers 56 day ban given in india (applauded by many in the media), if new evidence (a tape - which would be pretty conclusive you would think) suggests wrongdoing by dwyer (albeit an earlier incident) they are going to look more stupid than ever, so lets see just how unbiased they are going to be
Let's just see whether a CD or "tape" ever turns up for unbiased verification.
Oct 22, 2013 -- 5:16PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:
Let's just see whether a CD or "tape" ever turns up for unbiased verification.
i wonder how hard the BHA will try to get it?
I have read through the transcript a few times. The worst things that could conceivably be alleged is that one jockey wanted to bet in a race in which he didn't have a ride , well over three and a half years ago. Yes, it can be construed that there was more to it, but it is hard to believe that whoever tapped the phone didn't try to get more evidence. A few more questions come to mind - (i) why was this sat on for as long as it was before being released at a time when it would take pressure off the Indian authorities; (ii)whether the recording was edited to show the jockeys in as bad a light as possible; (iii)who carried out the phone tap and (iv)whether jockeys in India routinely have their phones tapped.
well put rydal, no one really knows the full facts but we do seem to want a scandal
Oct 22, 2013 -- 5:08PM, Rider wrote:
the problem here is that the BHA have just decided not to reciprocate dwyers 56 day ban given in india (applauded by many in the media), if new evidence (a tape - which would be pretty conclusive you would think) suggests wrongdoing by dwyer (albeit an earlier incident) they are going to look more stupid than ever, so lets see just how unbiased they are going to be
The Indian authorities made themselves look stupid by their idiotic judgement. India is a corrupt country so they probably think its ok twist the rules to "get" a jockey when they don't have any admissable evidence.
As plenty of others have said we just have selected comments from a "transcript" of a cd recorded in unexplained circumstances, so why not wait till more info comes out (as it will).
Rydal, the full transcript, or just what's in the newspaper reports?
If you've read the full transcript, what is the rest of that sentence Mulrennan is alleged to have said?
If you've read the full transcript, what is the rest of that sentence Mulrennan is alleged to have said?
On second thoughts, if you know, best keep it to yourself for now!
dave1357, i think its pretty obvious we are all waiting for more info to come out, some with more open minds than others.
Oct 22, 2013 -- 8:22PM, Rider wrote:
dave1357, i think its pretty obvious we are all waiting for more info to come out, some with more open minds than others.
good that you realise that you're not very open-minded
India is a corrupt country so they probably think its ok twist the rules to "get" a jockey when they don't have any admissable evidence.
think this sums up how closed minded you are, dave1357
now lets wait and see if the evidence stacks up rather than jumping to conclusions like a dimwit
think this sums up how closed minded you are, dave1357
now lets wait and see if the evidence stacks up rather than jumping to conclusions like a dimwit
I know this aint going to be a popular view: BUT surely Big Mac would be our best chance of investigating this
This does smell a bit funny - if somebody has been recording jockeys conversations in India then how many and whom have they recorded? If it's only this 1 then they must have struck very lucky and why sit on it for this time - if, as is much more likely, many more have been recorded then if this is the strongest recording of fixing they've got from the last 3 years then it may not amount to much more than (against the rules in India i presume?) jockeys betting.
RWIC are p!ssed at the ban being rescinded - to me the 2 cases are different and anybody that has seen the race MD got the ban for can't say it was proportionate. Do they or a journo have a library of cd's just for such an occasion? There's lots more questions that need answering and until the recording is released for others to hear and details of where it came from are known then those questions won't be answered.
RWIC are p!ssed at the ban being rescinded - to me the 2 cases are different and anybody that has seen the race MD got the ban for can't say it was proportionate. Do they or a journo have a library of cd's just for such an occasion? There's lots more questions that need answering and until the recording is released for others to hear and details of where it came from are known then those questions won't be answered.
Would love to find out the percentage of jocks who go out and try to win every race, i think the truthful number would have the likes of mick saying i told ya so unfortunately
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/others/RWITC-to-invest...
I know we are all desperate to find that horse racing is rotten to the core but does no-one think this is not rather convenient.
Why has this tape taken 3.5 years to surface?
Could there be another possible spin on this that the Indian stewards are not above reproach and this cd has been "found" to deflect attention away from them?
Why has this tape taken 3.5 years to surface?
Could there be another possible spin on this that the Indian stewards are not above reproach and this cd has been "found" to deflect attention away from them?
http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=1114069&category=0
My question to the Indian jockey club? would be why have they let dwyer keep on riding over there since they had,this information?.
Three an half years and they do make any request to the bha or our jockey club?,strange one that.Does not surprise me at same time either,just hope there a tougher stance taken in the future over these matters
Three an half years and they do make any request to the bha or our jockey club?,strange one that.Does not surprise me at same time either,just hope there a tougher stance taken in the future over these matters
are the bha any better? they seem to sweep a lot under the carpet and let people off lightly (usually blaming their rules not being strong enough), I'd guess the bha overruling their judgement has annoyed them into doing this
Everyday horses are given as easy,a lot of the time in races they can't win anyway. Every trainer will try and get a handicap mark for their horse that they think they might win off. I think most punters accept that it happens,it's all part of the handicap system.
Pulling one that could win,but won't because connections or the jockey make sure it doesn't are the cancer of the sport. Any trainer or jockey caught pulling one should be banned for life
Pulling one that could win,but won't because connections or the jockey make sure it doesn't are the cancer of the sport. Any trainer or jockey caught pulling one should be banned for life
randomtwat - they are saying they only received the recording in September, that is their get out clause (whether or not this is true I don't know).
The BHA can talk a good game but are a complete waste of space when it comes to rules and enforcing them (unless it's a punter, a small trainer, apprentice jockey etc). What has Bittar done since he has been here bar cover up doping as best as he could, and let non jiggers carry on daily with no repercussions to those involved unless it's the list above. You only have to look at how they let one of their own back into the game after a ban etc - and they wonder why the game is on its knees and not gaining any new fans.....
Where the sport will be in 20 years is anyones guess, I cannot see it ever picking up whilst this lot run it.
The BHA can talk a good game but are a complete waste of space when it comes to rules and enforcing them (unless it's a punter, a small trainer, apprentice jockey etc). What has Bittar done since he has been here bar cover up doping as best as he could, and let non jiggers carry on daily with no repercussions to those involved unless it's the list above. You only have to look at how they let one of their own back into the game after a ban etc - and they wonder why the game is on its knees and not gaining any new fans.....
Where the sport will be in 20 years is anyones guess, I cannot see it ever picking up whilst this lot run it.
Gotta feel sorry for poor martin, if lucky he maybe able to delay things again till next winter 
Why should you feel sorry for that Dwyer prat.
He was lucky to get away with it in India should have let the locals have his balls that day bent as **** he is should get banned for life useless **** anyway won't be missed
He was lucky to get away with it in India should have let the locals have his balls that day bent as **** he is should get banned for life useless **** anyway won't be missed
according to the RP both jockeys are refusing to return to india after a legal summons has been made asking them to explain themselves regarding the reported telephone conversation
It does go on, we know that, jockeys and trainers get a race sorted and all get on the agreed winner, its not just the punters but the owners i feel sorry for, they pay the bills and aren't told about it, not sure how regular that happens, but i know one occasion for sure, i was shocked what i heard, but it seemed normal to people involved
nothing ever came of this....hey but they cant ban dwyer.........he is the joker of the weighing room
Just stumbled over this again. Other than the BHA being useless can someone confirm why these two were not banned for life?
If racing is as clean as some would like to suggest why would anyone with any degree of integrity want to employ them?
If racing is as clean as some would like to suggest why would anyone with any degree of integrity want to employ them?
Mulrennan P - RUK ambassador
Mulrennan A - RTV newbie appearance today
Mulrennan A - ITV newbie on Saturday on the Opening Show
Dwyer M - RTV Friday night resident
Mulrennan A - RTV newbie appearance today
Mulrennan A - ITV newbie on Saturday on the Opening Show
Dwyer M - RTV Friday night resident
Horse racing is bent , always has been !Too many easy ways for the trainers , jockey`s and owners to make money , lol it`s not rocket science , lol
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