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19 Oct 13
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follow it up in the melbourne cup, great trial, no shame getting beaten by a horse who ran 3rd in a 6f group 1 sprint four starts back to black caviar
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So what won?
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fawkner 1st, dandino 2nd, dear demi 3rd
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Thanks megsy.
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That was how he had to ride from stall 19.Brilliant ride,great prep for the big race.
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And it was almost the same ride he gave Dunedin last year and it won. Dandino was probably the run of the race, but not quite good enough to emulate Dunedin.
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Elite racing must be thrilled
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I presume the Caulfield Cup race isn't 1 of Aussies top G1's - i mean Dandino is a decent enough G2 horse over here but nowhere near a top G1 performer (at least it hasn't been - U.S 'St Leger' winner ffs). Mind you that didn't stop the aussies that spend most of their time saying how carp Uk horse racing is tipping it up on their thread!
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 Sphycter talking out of his arse...what's new?  |
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Which part of what I have said is wrong oh sad pathetic stalker o' mine? You think Dandino is anywhere near the top over here?
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Do I need to read your posts to know they're dribble?
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They only have 73 group 1's in Oz.
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Here is how your 'brain' works There is no brain/dick/life etc etc etc (see how easy it is to play with your name, oh ha ha ha, how funny it is, how funny i am.......)
See spyker has posted......must post usual reply...no, resist.......don't read it... no, no, no...... can't help myself....Sphycnter hahahahahhahha 12yo boy again, mummy where are you...... stop hitting daddy please.....must resist....noooooo i can't i have to post the same old sheyeeeeeit..... Now how about just ignoring my posts there's a good little boy. |
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Are you sure? There's so many who do already
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Ooh that's like a dagger to my heart, how will i ever live with myself after such a clever put down as that? People ignoring me on a forum I mean does that really happen - yet you still don't stick me on ignore so you obv need to read my posts for some reason, it's good to feel wanted thanks mate.
Care to comment on a UK G2/3 performer that last won a conditions race - not even a group race - finishing 2nd (and looking like the best horse to many) in 1 of your top G1 races? |
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Ok,
I read a bit......this bit........(and looking like the best horse to many) who are the "many" you refer to? Names and phone numbers will do. and how do you quantify "best" dribble on....allllllways amusing  Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn |
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Yep usual pick and choose from tins - no don't bother commenting on any of the rest of my post which, like all the others you can't resist ignoring! You're right of course no Aussies are saying what i said and dandino isn't now the second fav for the MC, yes I'm talking bullox........
If this was the other way round and a G2/3 sprinter of yours came over here and ran as well in 1 of our G1 sprints you and the rest would be going on and on and on about it yet you have no comment? Sums you up really, goodbye - enjoy your lonely saturday night tinny........ |
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Oh i forgot - you shall be ignoring my posts so you won't even read the above..........
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Hmmm, your insightful comments really have stirred up some discussion on here haven't they?
Seems not ....being so regularly ignored must suck , eh? |
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spyker
Date Joined: 09 Oct 07 Add contact When: 19 Oct 13 09:46 I presume the Caulfield Cup race isn't 1 of Aussies top G1's - i mean Dandino is a decent enough G2 horse over here but nowhere near a top G1 performer (at least it hasn't been - U.S 'St Leger' winner ffs). Mind you that didn't stop the aussies that spend most of their time saying how carp Uk horse racing is tipping it up on their thread! as per usual spyker, you talk whilst your head is up your @rse the caulfield cup is the hardest 2400m race in australia, a true test of stamina and is a group 1 and the beauty of it is that it is a handicap which only you poms dont understand. so dont comment on something you dont understand  ohhh and i suggest you wear a belt, SPOOON keeps pulling down your trousers |
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And what you Aussies don't understand (no change there then) or are maybe just in denial and don't want to understand is what spyker is saying is that Dandino is an above average horse but wouldn't be sighted in a Gr1 here and yet can go over there and run such a big race in one of your so called Gr1s.
Dandino is a 10f and 12f winner here at a lower level but would have fallen out the back of the telly if it had run in the Champion Stakes today or the Arc the other week. |
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and like i said...its a "GROUP 1 HANDICAP " horses who aint wfa peformers get a chance at the weights, sea moon wouldnt have beaten dandino yesterday if he ran,sea moon one of your top group 1 performers makes your arguement so silly
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I know full well what a handicap is, a Gr1 handicap I have a little more trouble getting my head around as that's a contradiction in itself but since when has Sea Moon been one of the our top Gr1 performers anyway? Maybe you can tell us how many Gr1s SM has won in Europe, I'll give you a little clue here too, it's the same number of 6f races Moonlight Cloud has won......and then you reckon you make my argument look silly.
Stop trying to make out you are an expert on European racing when you are so clearly and totally clueless, as clueless as your trainers that run a stayer at a mile and then wonder why it gets n well beaten and then finishes FPTP and wins in it's last 2 starts once the penny drops and they race it at its proper distances, something that was easily predicted by many of us on here yet you were telling us your trainers would be turning our stayers into speedsters. Please stop embarrassing yourself ffs, there's no fun in it any more and is actually quite pitiful now. |
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the caulfield cup is the hardest 2400m race in australia,
No sheyt sherlock, really? So it is the hardest G1 to win and a horse like Dandino damn near wins it - even allowing for the fact it's a hcp come on look at it's form ffs? I think you have proved my point sir and i thank you ohhh and i suggest you wear a belt, SPOOON keeps pulling down your trousers Yes ,yes he does doesn't he - mind you he keeps doing it with the same post time after time after time after time after........... |
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sea moon beat Al Kazeem by 8 lens
Started favourite when 2 lens 5th to danedream, a race that had dunaden, st Nicholas abbey, Nathaniel Beat dunaden by 3 3/4 lens when dunaden was crowned worlds best stayer.and beat a fast finishing dandino a head, yeah like you say, he aint much chop fcuking w@nker remember our tracks are harder, many european horses come into their own, improve out of sight, they all cant be what we call mudlarks like frankel |
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First I want to say I love Aussie racing and watch it whenever I can. However, I do find it difficult to understand the concept of a Group 1 handicap. I understood that the pattern was designed to find the best of the breed, so how can a handicap work with that concept. Isn't it like giving unseeded players in a grand slam tennis tournament a set start?
What does it prove for pattern purposes if horse a beats horse b by a nose but horse a was receiving 10 kilos. Who is the better horse? Don't get me wrong, I am all for big valuable handicaps, just don't see how they can be called Group 1s. |
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I think the number you were searching for was 0 mugsy when I asked you how many Gr1s Sea Moon had won.
And so what if Sea Moon beat Al Kazeem, have you ever heard of a horse improving with age like Al Kazeem has (you probably have but failed to retain that info) but that would still be the same Al Kazeem that has now been beaten in the Juddmonte, Irish Champion and Arc in its last 3 starts because top Gr1 here in Europe actually take some winning. If you think Frankel was a mudlark that just show what a complete and utter bellend you are (not that it was ever in doubt anyway) and two of the horse's narrowest victories were on Soft ground where only its class allowed it to still win despite that. |
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So meg you, like most aussies on here berate people (usually Ima) for cherry picking form and crying 'nonsense' that if horse 'a' beats horse 'b' by such and such it means horse c is better than horse d yet you try desperately to do it here - hypocrisy from our antipodean buddies....... never!
On second thoughts you are right after all - dandino is clearly a a top class G1 horse on the world G1 stage, just seems to be no great shakes in the UK/Euro G1/G2's. By your own reasoning above and reading dandino's form it must mean therfore that UK/Euro middle distance G1's are therefore harder to win and better than those elsewhere. That's not my reasoning megger, it's yours - impeccable logic as always Megger, impeccable. |
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A lot of men with very small appendages IMO
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why do we have to argue over this can't we just acknowledge that UK racing is superior over staying distances?
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we know European stayers are better than ours, like our sprinters are superior.our milers over the last 12 months i believe hold no fear either, likes pierro,(now retired) all too hard,(now retired) atlantic jewel, its a dundeel ( nz )latter two best in the world along with treve
still say japanese stayers are the best in the world, but the poms wont have a bar of it. i would like to read who ima mugs top 10 stayers in the uk are ! |
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and by the way imamug and spyker....comparing group horses at WFA and group 1 at handicap you sure dont know shyt, you both go on the defensive which i find hilarious
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ima_mazed66
Date Joined: 12 Oct 09 Add contact | Send message When: 20 Oct 13 02:32 Joined: Date Joined: 12 Oct 09 | Topic/replies: 5,987 | Blogger: ima_mazed66's blog top Gr1 here in Europe actually take some winning yes we know how hard it is, we sent 3 over in the last decade for 8 group one wins 8-10f  |
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Dandino's credentials on the line today with the running of 67 rated Brockfield (horse he beat in his maiden) in the 540 at Ponte - will his form be franked and he be made clear fav for the MC after this class 4 hacp today?
Having said that in this race on this ground with this weight and at 16's it is def worth an ew bet! |
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The horse has obviously improved 10 lengths in the sunny climate of Australia
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Funnily enough i think the weather/temp is 1 of the main reasons why some Uk horses might improve over there - running style as well. Sod all to do with 'improved training' they just like the sun on their backs! Of course the usual suspects will now come on and say I'm talking carp and it must be the world beating Aussie trainers, zzzzzzzzzz!
Anyway, tata - it's p!ssing it down so I'm off out into the garden with a bar of soap for my quarterly shower....... |
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You really do love those cherries don't you megsy.
I've made all of these following points to you over and over again but plenty of your sprinters have come over and got a total spanking from ours but you want to rewrite history and pretend that never happened and then only concentrate on the Aussie winners. Almost every Aussie sprinter that has won a race here has also been well and truly beaten too and perhaps you could be kind enough to list Takeover Target's record here or do you think the horse only ever ran here the once? Care to name the 3 "Aussie" horses and their full campaigns here for those 8 Gr1 8-10f wins too? |
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Any new on the mares Dear Demi and Royal Descent,will they be running in the Melbourne Cup ?
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