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Aye. Not too bothered he says. So he okays someone to ghostwrite a long, defensive, chippy article just to show how not bothered he is.
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In all fairness, it's a disgrace.......
A disgrace that a 'so-called' top sportsman can react in such a precious way over perfectly balanced criticism of a couple of rides..... "What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". " what the f'kin hell is he on???? Does he think the racing media should be made up entirely of fawning sycophants like the ones that pollute ATR's Sunday Forum, telling jockeys how great they are & what a wonderful exibition of race riding they've given? Makes you wonder what kind of set up with the media these little nerks would be happy with........no one questioning ANYTHING they do perchance? Grow up Ryan, you're making a t!t of yourself son. |
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gone down in my estimation after not finding much wrong with jamies ride on york glory.
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I welcome Ryan Moore's piece. Either we want proper discussion of rides or we don't. If we do, then surely this must be part of it.
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Haydock Park, 5 September 2013
2.00, first race The Stewards held an enquiry to consider why Ryan Moore, the rider of SNOW SKY, fourth, had appeared to ease slightly shortly before the winning post. Having heard his evidence and viewed recordings of the race they noted his explanation that inside the final furlong the the winner, GOLD TRAIL (IRE), had drifted in front of him and he felt short of room and anticipated clipping heels. Wat does he make of that one i wonder? Smaller jock would have had the book thrown at em |
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Ramruma.....
"What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". " Where does that fit in, within a discussion of rides? |
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Ghost written sheight how much value do you give it ?
In particular for a jockey who has feck all to say at the best of times. Whats the agenda of the ghost writer iyho ? |
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agreed biscar
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agreed biscar
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"What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". "
That is truly a disgraceful remark, sickening to me in fact. |
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Horse racing is the only sport in which all participants are beyond reproach.
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Here here slippy horrable little fooker i m o.
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the ghost writer is big tone himself.
tony calvin likely being a pointed with his own views imo. |
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*bit
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Hi honey
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"Forthright"
Not in his vocabulary Fourth Right Guv |
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I ghost write it (Tony Calvin)
Happy to have a named conversation with any of you on here if you want to front up. Having been closely linked with the forum for 11+ years, I'd say that I know most of you already, and any relationships etc you may have in industry More than happy to interact with Betfair customers though so name, rank, and number and let's chat |
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That is truly a disgraceful remark, sickening to me in fact.
What's disgraceful about it? It wasn't used in relation to criticism of the rides, it was used in reference to the suggestion that the Juddmonte announcement had something to do with the perceived bad rides. |
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prism 06 Sep 13 21:40
I ghost write it (Tony Calvin) Journo ? |
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Ryan Moore is an obnoxious little twerp who thinks he is racing royalty and beyond reproach and he learned all he knows about being an little obnoxious twerp from his dad who is one of the most aggressive, rude and horrible people in racing. Keep up the good journalism GC it is refreshing to see someone telling the truth and being open and honest.
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Correct Billy!
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Racing is a game of opinions, except you're not allowed to have any opinions. Ryan needs to lighten up a bit. Jockeys, like everyone else in this sport, need to realise that without the paying punter there's be no game to participate in.
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Did you ghost write the Nicholls blog too Tony ?
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yes Biscar
I was in Barbados reporting Kautos schooling fall... |
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oops
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names, gents, and I'll answer anything. So we all know who we are and where we stand.
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I got the impression Ryan Moore and/or Tony Calvin were alluding to the fact that it's OK to give fair criticism if warranted or even if a lot of different media did so at different times and in individual circumstances, but that the suggestion was someone like John McCririck do so on a repeat loop for the sake of hearing his own voice and to try to get a name for that kind of thing and become the self-proclaimed punters pal.
Only Ryan or Tony can tell us if the were implying Graham Cunningham was going that way too. I personally felt it was a bit of an uncalled for comment either way unless you are going to name names and not just hint at it. For the record I'm more than happy to reveal who I am but I'm nobody of any great importance so it won't mean much to anyone anyway and am just an ordinary bloke with an interest in racing and quite opinionated too. ![]() |
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so how does it work prism,you write it and ryan gets paid for what?do u think he is happy that it looks like hes a right muppet?what did u think of the spencer ride?
u can get my details from ur colleagues if its so important to u |
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The last time I revealed my name (ordinary bloke) when being challenged years ago by Barry Dennis, I got yellow carded. Graham Cunningham is entitled to his opinion, as is Ryan Moore. Imagine these jockeys had to take the same level of criticism as football players, how would they handle that?
We all know that horses aren't machines, but jockeys aren't immune to opinion, debate and criticism of their rides. Ryan mentions the pundits he respects. Does he respect them because he doesn't get criticism from them, or is it coincidence? Only he could say, I guess. |
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prism has taken the gloves off it would seem.
Any takers? |
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Did the nicholls blog not read that everything went well or words to that effect when in fact the horse had fallen.The credibility of these blogs went out the window after that.
Out of interest I would be fascinated to know how these blogs work.Do you write the blogs and run them by the person?Or does the "blogger" just let you have free rein ,do they have any input ? In the hope that you are genuinely who you say you are,I appreciate your presence on the forum and your willingness to partake in some discussion. |
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Only he could say, I guess.
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I chuckled to myself when I read that G2D!
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"It didn't bother me too much, in truth, as it was pretty tame stuff and we all have our opinions"
So why have an article written about it, racing is a minority sport most people on the street aren't bothered about so why go to such lengths to defend the jockey after all its only an opinion of which there are many............ A.Customer. |
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Prism
"Having been closely linked with the forum for 11+ years, I'd say that I know most of you already, and any relationships etc you may have in industry More than happy to interact with Betfair customers though" 75 replies in 11 years doesn't give me that impression Or ghostwritting other usernames ? |
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Disappointing response.
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if you want an argument Chit Chat is that way >>>>>>>
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Ryan would do well to get Johnn's name off Barry Dennis for his next blog..
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Bit like the blogs
Read one & never again - dire Gravy trainers galore Not a scrap of relevant info that would help anyone with a bit of intelligence Most here could write or wrote them |