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barstool
06 Sep 13 19:44
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Don't take it too serious Ryan.

Just like Bob Cooper does.Love

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By:
Kingmambo
When: 06 Sep 13 19:50
Aye.  Not too bothered he says.  So he okays someone to ghostwrite a long, defensive, chippy article just to show how not bothered he is.
By:
jonjo
When: 06 Sep 13 19:51
In all fairness, it's a disgrace.......

A disgrace that a 'so-called' top sportsman can react in such a precious way over perfectly balanced criticism of a couple of rides.....

"What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". "

what the f'kin hell is he on????
Does he think the racing media should be made up entirely of fawning sycophants like the ones that pollute ATR's Sunday Forum, telling jockeys how great they are & what a wonderful exibition of race riding they've given?

Makes you wonder what kind of set up with the media these little nerks would be happy with........no one questioning ANYTHING they do perchance?

Grow up Ryan, you're making a t!t of yourself son.
By:
ashleigh
When: 06 Sep 13 19:52
gone down in my estimation after not finding much wrong with jamies ride on york glory.
By:
Ramruma
When: 06 Sep 13 19:59
I welcome Ryan Moore's piece. Either we want proper discussion of rides or we don't. If we do, then surely this must be part of it.
By:
BJG
When: 06 Sep 13 20:01
Haydock Park, 5 September 2013

2.00, first race

The Stewards held an enquiry to consider why Ryan Moore, the rider of SNOW SKY, fourth, had appeared to ease slightly shortly before the winning post. Having heard his evidence and viewed recordings of the race they noted his explanation that inside the final furlong the the winner, GOLD TRAIL (IRE), had drifted in front of him and he felt short of room and anticipated clipping heels.


Wat does he make of that one i wonder? Smaller jock would have had the book thrown at em
By:
jonjo
When: 06 Sep 13 20:02
Ramruma.....

"What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". "


Where does that fit in, within a discussion of rides?
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 06 Sep 13 20:28
Ghost written sheight how much value do you give it ?
In particular for a jockey who has feck all to say at the best of times.

Whats the agenda of the ghost writer iyho ?
By:
johnwayne
When: 06 Sep 13 20:31
agreed biscar
By:
johnwayne
When: 06 Sep 13 20:31
agreed biscar
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 06 Sep 13 20:48
"What I will say, though, is beware of people in the media who try to carve out a niche for themselves as controversial or "forthright". "

That is truly a disgraceful remark, sickening to me in fact.
By:
Wesdag
When: 06 Sep 13 20:51
Horse racing is the only sport in which all participants are beyond reproach.
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 06 Sep 13 21:27
Here here slippy horrable little fooker i m o.
By:
corbiewood
When: 06 Sep 13 21:30
the ghost writer is big tone himself.

tony calvin likely being a pointed with his own views imo.
By:
corbiewood
When: 06 Sep 13 21:30
*bit
By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 06 Sep 13 21:33
Hi honeyLove
By:
madhatters
When: 06 Sep 13 21:33
"Forthright"

Not in his vocabulary

Fourth
Right Guv
By:
prism
When: 06 Sep 13 21:40
I ghost write it (Tony Calvin)

Happy to have a named conversation with any of you on here if you want to front up.

Having been closely linked with the forum for 11+ years, I'd say that I know most of you already, and any relationships etc you may have in industry

More than happy to interact with Betfair customers though

so name, rank, and number and let's chat
By:
Marcce
When: 06 Sep 13 21:41
That is truly a disgraceful remark, sickening to me in fact.

What's disgraceful about it? It wasn't used in relation to criticism of the rides, it was used in reference to the suggestion that the Juddmonte announcement had something to do with the perceived bad rides.
By:
madhatters
When: 06 Sep 13 21:44
prism 06 Sep 13 21:40 
I ghost write it (Tony Calvin)

Journo ?
By:
HaylingBilly
When: 06 Sep 13 21:46
Ryan Moore is an obnoxious little twerp who thinks he is racing royalty and beyond reproach and he learned all he knows about being an little obnoxious twerp from his dad who is one of the most aggressive, rude and horrible people in racing. Keep up the  good journalism GC it is refreshing to see someone telling the truth and being open and honest.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 06 Sep 13 21:50
Correct Billy!
By:
johnn
When: 06 Sep 13 21:53
Racing is a game of opinions, except you're not allowed to have any opinions. Ryan needs to lighten up a bit. Jockeys, like everyone else in this sport, need to realise that without the paying punter there's be no game to participate in.
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 06 Sep 13 21:53
Did you ghost write the Nicholls blog too Tony ?
By:
Deltâ
When: 06 Sep 13 21:56
yes Biscar


I was in Barbados reporting Kautos schooling fall...
By:
Deltâ
When: 06 Sep 13 21:56
oops
By:
prism
When: 06 Sep 13 21:59
names, gents, and I'll answer anything. So we all know who we are and where we stand.
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 06 Sep 13 22:03
I got the impression Ryan Moore and/or Tony Calvin were alluding to the fact that it's OK to give fair criticism if warranted or even if a lot of different media did so at different times and in individual circumstances, but that the suggestion was someone like John McCririck do so on a repeat loop for the sake of hearing his own voice and to try to get a name for that kind of thing and become the self-proclaimed punters pal.

Only Ryan or Tony can tell us if the were implying Graham Cunningham was going that way too. I personally felt it was a bit of an uncalled for comment either way unless you are going to name names and not just hint at it. For the record I'm more than happy to reveal who I am but I'm nobody of any great importance so it won't mean much to anyone anyway and am just an ordinary bloke with an interest in racing and quite opinionated too. Happy
By:
thebeg
When: 06 Sep 13 22:07
so how does it work prism,you write it and ryan gets paid for what?do u think he is happy that it looks like hes a right muppet?what did u think of the spencer ride?
u can get my details from ur colleagues if its so important to u
By:
johnn
When: 06 Sep 13 22:09
The last time I revealed my name (ordinary bloke) when being challenged years ago by Barry Dennis, I got yellow carded. Graham Cunningham is entitled to his opinion, as is Ryan Moore. Imagine these jockeys had to take the same level of criticism as football players, how would they handle that?
We all know that horses aren't machines, but jockeys aren't immune to opinion, debate and criticism of their rides. Ryan mentions the pundits he respects. Does he respect them because he doesn't get criticism from them, or is it coincidence? Only he could say, I guess.
By:
barstool
When: 06 Sep 13 22:11
prism has taken the gloves off it would seem.

Any takers?
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 06 Sep 13 22:11
Did the nicholls blog not read that everything went well or words to that effect when in fact the horse had fallen.The  credibility of these blogs went out the window after that.

Out of interest I would be fascinated to know how these blogs work.Do you write the blogs and run them by the person?Or does the "blogger" just let you have free rein ,do they have any input ?

In the hope that you are genuinely who you say you are,I appreciate your presence on the forum and your willingness to partake in some discussion.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 06 Sep 13 22:12
Only he could say, I guess. Grin
By:
s.kenbo
When: 06 Sep 13 22:14
I chuckled to myself when I read that G2D! LaughLaughLaugh
By:
11kv
When: 06 Sep 13 22:14
"It didn't bother me too much, in truth, as it was pretty tame stuff and we all have our opinions"



So why have an article written about it, racing is a minority sport most people on the street aren't bothered about so why go to such lengths to defend the jockey after all its only an opinion of which there are many............



A.Customer.
By:
madhatters
When: 06 Sep 13 22:14
Prism
"Having been closely linked with the forum for 11+ years, I'd say that I know most of you already, and any relationships etc you may have in industry

More than happy to interact with Betfair customers though"


75 replies in 11 years doesn't give me that impression
Or ghostwritting other usernames ?
By:
prism
When: 06 Sep 13 22:16
Disappointing response.
By:
11kv
When: 06 Sep 13 22:17
if you want an argument Chit Chat is that way >>>>>>>
By:
guinness2dear
When: 06 Sep 13 22:17
Ryan would do well to get Johnn's name off Barry Dennis for his next blog..
By:
madhatters
When: 06 Sep 13 22:18
Bit like the blogs

Read one & never again - dire
Gravy trainers galore
Not a scrap of relevant info that would help anyone with a bit of intelligence
Most here could write or wrote them
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