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homefortea
30 Aug 13 20:52
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The "Bookmakers" stooge has been strangely silent recently and his alter ego the rather camp clive33 has emerged to peddle the same old lies...
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Report InAndOut August 30, 2013 9:55 PM BST
'Yield management stategy' kicking in. Cut backs are inevitable. Byebye-banks Happy He now works for CollusussssassasBets Laugh
Report xmoneyx August 30, 2013 10:11 PM BST
he's trying to build a new society
Report clive82 August 31, 2013 12:21 AM BST
Colossus deductions!
Report hello :-) August 31, 2013 12:40 AM BST
cottager thread
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 3:52 PM BST
I need to make some points here.

I alleged to the Gambling Commission that "banned banks" worked for them and was disclosing information about "The Magician" he only had access to because of his role with the commission, and his previous delaing with me around my requests to get corrupt bets void.

to date the commission has not confirmed banned banks is/was their employee but have confirmed that

1) the banned banks account at Betfair has been closed (voluntary or otherwise - they did not mention)
2) that they view very poorly their staff releasing confidential data into the public domain poorly
3) they ahve no further comment till the investigation is over
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 3:54 PM BST
One cuckoo has left the nest..
Report saddo September 2, 2013 3:54 PM BST
Hope the coont has been kicked off the GC gravy express also.
Report parispike September 2, 2013 3:56 PM BST
well well well.

Some good news
Report rcing September 2, 2013 3:59 PM BST
that's interesting magician .
i wonder if they know that the banned banks account has been closed because they have the power to find out thorugh betfair or though banks telling them .

if banned banks did work for the gambling commission , there needs to be some investigation as to why a impartial body ( that he worked for ) was so much for fobts and them not being reduced in stakes or prizes
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:10 PM BST
I'm actually shocked. Banned_banks sayed he never lied, and denied he had anything to do with the GC.

Also he sayed he had never been banned from ere..

Soooooo, there is a chance the oriGinal Banks may make an appearance???
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:11 PM BST
if I was a betting man, I would suggest Banned banks told them...

Betfair (not regulated by the GC) would not tell them that very willingly I would imagine...
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:13 PM BST
I would suggest the original banks will not re-appear
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:14 PM BST
Ta

Now can you make clive disappear?
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:16 PM BST
same person?
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:17 PM BST
Used to think that, but studied their posts for a while and would say no..
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:18 PM BST
Could of course be a work colleague though..
Report insideinfo September 2, 2013 4:18 PM BST
he was a w&nker,glad hes gone
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:22 PM BST
The commission have assured me that a memo went to all staff last week specifically indicating that they were not to release confidential data on public forums...

obvious questions is why they had to be informed of that LOL

the other obvious question is why a alleged commission employee had it in for me?
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:24 PM BST
Jealousy is a very sad trait Mr Magician..
Report rcing September 2, 2013 4:25 PM BST
did he disclose your name magician ?

he had it in for anyone that did not agree with his views
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:35 PM BST
he more or less disclosed a company that I built and as such my name... (neither mentioned directly - but enough given that many people realised)

both pieces of information he only had due to his roll at the commission, as the company is regulated by them
Report halcyon days September 2, 2013 4:36 PM BST
Shocked
Report scaredmoney September 2, 2013 4:37 PM BST
foookin hell ShockedShocked
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:37 PM BST
amazing thing was I felt like commission put me on trial and asked me to prove it...

rather than ask him to prove it was not, then in the end the collapsed and said "account closed etc etc " it wont happen again, but without actually agreeing it was him...

gave me all this right to free speech stuff...

I asked them was his right to free speach greater than my right to data prviacy form the firm that regulates me? no answer
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:38 PM BST
firm = comission
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:39 PM BST
read quickly doubt this thread will last long... 3 threads of banned banks/comission already dusted today
Report rcing September 2, 2013 4:40 PM BST
that's disgraceful . i remember reading one of the threads where you asked him if he was the original banks , just so you know , yes he was .

also , how a gambling commission employee can be so positive in there views towards fobts is disgraceful and double standards .
Report halcyon days September 2, 2013 4:40 PM BST
The Magician (101),


WELL DONE !   Must admit I'm quite Shocked  !
Report saddo September 2, 2013 4:43 PM BST
GC are one of the biggest wastes of money out there, clearly staffed by w@nkers.
Report parispike September 2, 2013 4:44 PM BST
The more I reflect on this the more troubling on several levels this is.....
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:47 PM BST
The Magician: You have had discussionS with the GC before?

I can think of one Irish sounding hoss that you were unhappy about. Maybe they hold a grudge?
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:50 PM BST
guiness

many discussions about corrupt races the Commission refused to void under section 336 and 42

they refused to use thier power even when jockeys got done for pulling up horses they had laid...
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 4:51 PM BST
Aye i thought so. And the said hoss's owners..

It's a murky world (as i'm sure you know) out there..
Report Dr Gonzo September 2, 2013 4:53 PM BST
Well this certainly seems to answer a few questions regarding BB's opinions on FOBTs and the like.
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 4:56 PM BST
was he pro FOBTs
Report john92 September 2, 2013 4:58 PM BST
He jumped into a discussion about picture delays once and his views are now surprising with hindsight.
Report Dr Gonzo September 2, 2013 4:58 PM BST
Very much so.

Suppose every new LBO opening was another helping to fund the bloated expense accounts of him and his colleagues...
Report Dr Gonzo September 2, 2013 4:58 PM BST
Very much so.

Suppose every new LBO opening was another helping to fund the bloated expense accounts of him and his colleagues...
Report parispike September 2, 2013 5:01 PM BST
His views being john92?
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 5:02 PM BST
I still find the Commission's focus on what I could prove rather than what had been allegedly released about me shocking...
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 5:06 PM BST
Pro FOBT's is a vast understatement , tbph..

A vigorous defense and obsession with related FOBT freds was very vivid..

I once asked him did he gamble - he said he did, so i asked him why he didn't contribute to gambling or other related freds, just FOBT ones...

I still await that answer...
Report parispike September 2, 2013 5:06 PM BST
I've no experience of dealing with the GC but I have had many dealings with the Heath and Safety Executive a similarly "independent" government body.

Based on that I'm not surprised Magician
Report rcing September 2, 2013 5:09 PM BST
I still find the Commission's focus on what I could prove rather than what had been allegedly released about me shocking...

possibly protecting there own
Report chelsea girl September 2, 2013 5:12 PM BST
Well Well, I have had a few 'run ins' with banks over the years regarding

FOBTS and am not shedding any tears over his departure.Plain
Report guinness2dear September 2, 2013 5:13 PM BST
And there lies the problem.

It is far from "independant"

Self regulation gets right up my nose..
Report WFT September 2, 2013 5:14 PM BST
From the GC's site.

"Our work is funded by fees, paid by the operators that we license."

You expect impartiality ?

They only exist as long as bookmakers co-exist. What's good for the goose..........
Report parispike September 2, 2013 5:15 PM BST
Self regulation is an oxymoron
Report unitedbiscuits September 2, 2013 5:18 PM BST
Shocking. He once refuted that self-exclusions from shops were more often due to FOBTs than other stuff on the menu. He said there was no evidence. And self-exclusion forms that the GC view don't state why the customer is self-excluding, so the GC can pretend to be ignorant of the cause.
Report john92 September 2, 2013 5:22 PM BST
The long and short of it that 'anyone can go to the track to bet ir' and that my opinion on measures to level the playing field counted for fk all as I am in the vast majority that could benefit from it.

It's quite sad (and telling) that someone in his alleged position would not want to see fairer and more sustainable markets. He didn't seem to grasp that prefering long term sustainability and fairness ahead of short term greed was possible.
Report parispike September 2, 2013 5:24 PM BST
I think we can conclude that BB has been well and truly outed.

Good riddance to bad rubbish
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 2, 2013 5:37 PM BST
Well as they say in the fens. . . .

"fook me!"ShockedShocked
Report millhouse September 2, 2013 5:39 PM BST
At various industry shows I have made a point of going over to the Gambling Commission stand to ask them their position when it comes to the discrimination practiced by the bookmaking industry (you can imagine how much fun that was for them), and I've always been staggered that they were resolutely interested only in standing in the bookmakers corner - one of the people I spoke to was even a former Ladbrokes 'trader'.

But then again, none of us should really be surprised. However you view their impartiality, at 9.05 on the day this 'fair and open' body was instituted, the bookmaking industry would have set to work getting into them in any way possible when it comes to invitations, junkets, hospitality and 'advantages' (if you've got a private box at the Cheltenham Festival, ask yourself who the first name on the team sheet might be when it comes to the invitations, for example)

It's hardly a shocker then, that this 'independent' body, that's supposed to be the protectors of 'fairness' when it comes to gambling, is actually really only interested in industry protectionism, and maintaining the stranglehold that the bookmakers have over this industry...
Report harold_lloyd September 2, 2013 5:45 PM BST
the sad fobt thread loving banned banks will be looking in loving the attention , but fuming that he can't gat his fix by replying to fobt threads

the silly ****
Report Dr Gonzo September 2, 2013 7:51 PM BST
Magician - as a next step, have you considered making a request to the GC under the Freedom Of Information Act, asking for any internal correspondence relating to the disclosure of confidential information on Internet forums by employees of the GC? May be enlightening.

They'll presumably use the fact a person could be identified as an excuse not to disclose the information, so request that they suitably redact it. Won't help identify the individual responsible, but will certainly shed some light on what internal discussions have occurred.
Report The Magician (101) September 2, 2013 8:19 PM BST
Gonzo

Despite the fact that to date they have completely stone walled me and defened the alleged staff member, I suspect they will be pretty transparent at the end of the investigation

lets see
Report homefortea September 2, 2013 8:30 PM BST
I hope that he is reported to the police and prosecuted and may even phone them myself..

The man was a proven liar,a freeloader and even changed his username to mine.Then he proceeded to take the rise out of punters on here on "my" behalf...

Then Betfair let him change his username back and let him proceed to post....
Report homefortea September 2, 2013 8:32 PM BST
Having consulted google I think a "defamation of character lawsuit" is on the cards...
Report nortons September 2, 2013 8:44 PM BST
I stated many moons ago he was involved with the Gambling Commission which is Birmingham based.The fact that I later found he followed Blues added to the theory.
Report guinness2dear September 3, 2013 10:31 PM BST
Hooooof
Report jed.davison September 3, 2013 10:41 PM BST
I've had many run-ins on the subject of FOBT's with banned_banks.

Imagine my surprise when it emerged, depsite his repeated denials, that he had a vested interest.

Is it too much of a leap of faith to imagine that far from acting under his own steam on here, he was in fact ordered to carry out his long-term campaign of disinformation by his employer?
Report toronto44 September 3, 2013 10:54 PM BST
With his ego I doubt no one else there knew.Thought he was too smart and devious to be found out.Unlucky for him he crossed someone much smarter in The Magician.

He once posted he was so famous,everyone would be shocked to find out who he really was.As it turned out he was just another two bit lying freeloader.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 4, 2013 7:18 AM BST
I thought he was Simon TemplerBlush
Report chelsea girl September 4, 2013 7:52 AM BST
No Dickie, Simon was a saint, just like you. Love
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 4, 2013 1:48 PM BST
Devil
Report homefortea September 4, 2013 9:05 PM BST
But who is he...

For fecks sake he was always a clueless lying moron..

I suspected that he was a Director of a well known Bookmaker but to be told that he worked for an organisation that are as worthless as they are clueless is a major letdown..

He was a Civil Servant and posted on here outside of his flexitime...

I thought better of him...
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD September 4, 2013 9:07 PM BST
To be fair so did i.Sad
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