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Statement by Godolphin re: Serious irregularities found in samples
Statement by Godolphin re: Serious irregularities found in samples
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as a non expert on these drugs ,,, i assume they build allow more repeated exersice and that buids endurance and more speed ... so a one off application wont actually help in anyway .The idea that the vets team in and around this huge organisation werent involved or complicit is implausable .Almost as implausable as the trainers defence ,,, .im pretty certain that the same medical staff would have moved in and around the whole organisation in its many places world wide .this multinational organisation prides itself for its hands on approach at all levels ,,, it must cast doubt on the whole organisation and its public face of respectability ...I await the pr gurus bland excuses and the kicking of the ball into the long grass while business will go on ... its a pity really at the beginning i was pleased to see their initial successes i think it got too big and became too greedy ,
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silvergreaser im always reluctant to taint others by association ,,, do you know if the yard y mentioned have had any thing like this happen to them ...im sure someone will tell me if its so .The stable y mentioned has lots of runners and lots of winners as well as losers ,,,some run above expectations some below with little rhyme or reason but to connect that to this shooting gallery is a huge leap /
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Just a general observation kemo, horses of his getting beat in mickey mouse races before making stratospheric improvement in form usually in much better class of race, I suppose been a qualified vet you can give them the proper feed?.
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Trainer succumbed to the pressure. Pressure of training for the largest owner in the world, pressure from the Coolmore challenge, pressure from Bin Surour.
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look i can understand where your comeing from but ive had horses and see them being trained its far from a straight forward thing ,,, you are entiled to draw your own conclusions but i would prefer to see the smoking gun ,,,, or is it the dripping needle ,,,have they been done for this ... my knowledge is limited but i tend to try to keep up with events and i cant actually remember anything .i like the couple who run the outfit have watched them work hard from very small beginning to where they are now .if they were doing similar things i would be rather more dissapointed than the godolphin thing ... though im not sure why thats the case ... incidently its a stable i hardly ever back because of your remarks about in and out runners ... i posted on here the other evening i was backing one of theirs called LIKE MARMALADE .... cos i had seen marmalade cat earlier that morning in tobermory ,,,it won ,
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Wouldn't like to be in Zarooni's shoes having to appear before BHA...he's going to require comprehensive training and coaching and it'll be a feat of memory for him to remember what he has to say.God or Allah help him if under interrogation he says the wrong thing. Anyone know if he'll have legal representatives with him at the hearing.
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Frankie will be like the cat that got the cream...innit
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Is he a British citizen ?
If not he could be deported surely. |
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Anaglogs ... i can understand where yr coming from with the face of racing mr dettorie but really does he have any room to gloat ,,,
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not sure how bha hearings work but surely his solicitor would be able to do all the talking....
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salmon spray .... now that was a horse from my youth ,,,
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1966 Champion Hurdle
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If i was F.D's advisior he would Kemo. They never stood by him in his hour in need I'm sure he has some tales to tell....at a price
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i have a feeling this was one of the ist horses i backed ,,, listened to race outside bookies far too young to go inside with the grown men ,,,, mind y bookie did let us bet ,,,life changing stuff both for good as well as bad ...
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Yes, Sankara, I vividly remember Moon Ballad that night. The phrase 'eyeballs out' has never been more appropriate. Plenty of commentators have queried why Carnival form frequently fails to translate to Europe.......does make you wonder......and I hope Al Zarooni is looked after 'cos it's hard to believe he was a loose cannon.
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If Sheikhy pulls the plug like the Aga Khan did after his disq Oaks winner, there is a massive gap in the money in British racing right from buying overpriced Kheleyfs at Tatts through to entries and jobs associated with 200 horses in training
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i think i would rather less runners less jobs than bent races ... price worth paying .i know its only one of many things wrong but its still wrong .
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It has been noticeable that Godolphin farm races in Dubai be it Zarooni or Suroor and yet they very seldom re-produce anything like that form in Britain?, who would dare test the ruling family of Dubai horses in their very own backyard?.
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not sure how bha hearings work but surely his solicitor would be able to do all the talking.... He is allowed legal representation. I think he'd be best advised to let said person do most of the talking too. |
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Sky News Now
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Anaglogs ...im starting to see you almost like in an office surrounded by multitude of screens ,computers ,tickertape outlets ,bit like the guy in space station of thunderbirds connected to the worlds pulse ,,reacting to events and in turn moulding them on here ,,, y would do well in north korea
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Been thinking about this if a human is juicing once you stop, your hormone levels crash and you have to go into PCT to go back to normal hormone production. In this cycle you lose most of your gains hence people who are caught in sprinting etc havnt entered PCT and still on their cycles. Looking at Big Browns run in the Belmont you could say the exact same thing happens to horse.
So basically Al Zarooni probably took a huge risk for not much gains. |
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Sheikh Mohammed wont be happy says James Crispe?, as if the sheikh is entirely innocent and childlike and hadn't a clue his horses were running on dope hence why they farmed races in his homeland?.
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wont be happy .... THE BLAND LEADING THE BLAND
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I too think of Anaglog as a one man Reuter service.
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Great to see the ferocious British Racing Media getting well stuck into this huge story, knocking down doors and doorstepping everyone in sight to get a reaction to this scandal.
Right? I can hardly wait for 'Get In' to start back up. Harvey and Weaver will surely be urging the stiffest possible sanctions on the miscreants. |
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"It's very unfortunate what's happened, but he's a lovely lad and he'll learn from this and hopefully come back better than ever".
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is that suarez ,dettori,or the trainer ,,, gerard
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Dean Mckeown
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Has all that DNA testing by the Food Standards Agency on Tesco mince led them to Godolphin ?
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Camelot Triple Crown bid scuppered questionably perhaps?
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"It's very unfortunate what's happened, but he's a lovely lad and he'll learn from this and hopefully come back better than ever".
shame he didnt learn from the 2 positive tests last year - how many chances do you want to give him - only Henderson gets away with things like this! |
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Leading story on Sky News now
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Interesting point about Camelot. That's the trouble with illegal drug use -once they enter the equation everything is open to suspicion and even genuine achievement is tainted.
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Thank the Lord no British Racing "Journalist" would have a first thought along the lines of sending out The Most Cringeworthy Suck-Up Message In History into the Twittersphere.
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^Thommo
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Derek Thompson @tommoracing 19h
My thoughts go out to Sheikh Mohammed who never ever would want to win anything unless it was purely on merit! Pass the sick bag please! |
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Entered in the Bet365 Maiden Stakes at Sandown on Friday. Mahmood Al Zarooni horse: Controversy
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Wonder who the whistle blower was....my guess either Teddy Grimthorpe or Aiden ...then again no mention of every other word being 'you know' so that rules Aiden out so must have been Teddy doing his impersonation of Mr Abdullah.
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They didn't need a whistleblower, they have previous
maxheadroom Joined: 11 Aug 10 Replies: 2268 22 Apr 13 19:22 from 2009 Sheikh Mohammed, one of the biggest names in horse racing globally, has been embarrassed by a doping scandal involving a horse he has ridden in endurance races in Bahrain and Dubai. The horse, Tahhan, which the Sheikh owns, was found to have two banned substances in its system after testing by the Sheikh's own staff The Disciplinary Panel of the British Horseracing Authority held an enquiry on 16 August 2012 into the analysis of the urine ordered to be taken from two horses trained by Mahmood Al Zarooni: 1. MARINER’S CROSS (IRE), at Newmarket after the colt finished first in the Swan At Lavenham Wood Ditton Stakes on 19 April 2012, and 2. LYRIC OF LIGHT, at Newmarket after the filly was unplaced in the QIPCO 1000 Guineas Stakes (British Champion Series) on 6 May 2012. The Panel also considered whether or not to take action under Rule (A)74.2 of the Rules of Racing in respect of the possible disqualification of the two horses. The samples taken from MARINER’S CROSS (IRE) and LYRIC OF LIGHT were found to contain propoxyphene, which is a prohibited substance. The analysis of the ‘B’ samples confirmed the original findings. After considering the evidence, including written statements from Mahmood Al Zarooni, the Panel was unable to establish the source of the substance, and could not therefore be satisfied that the administration of the substance was accidental. The Panel accepted an admission from Mahmood Al Zarooni that he was in breach of Rule (C)53 on both occasions and imposed a fine of £1,000 for each breach. Under Rule (A)74.2 the Panel disqualified MARINER’S CROSS (IRE), placing MUKHADRAM first, FLUCTUATE (USA) second, HILL STREET (IRE) third and BUNRAKU fourth in the Swan at Lavenham Wood Ditton Stakes. The Panel also disqualified LYRIC OF LIGHT from the QIPCO 1000 Guineas Stakes (British Champions Series). |