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A Petition by MP's to make the Max Bet £2 on Betfair
A Petition by MP's to make the Max Bet £2 on Betfair
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There was a case decades ago about Spot the Ball. Lawyers made a fortune arguing whether ANY skill was involved. Bingo and Amusement Arcades must have been exempt but presumably because the amounts involved were small. For casinos strictly speaking you had to be a member for 24 hours if I remember rightly ( though that was widely flouted ). I thought lotteries were illegal until the National lottery was introduced but for years that had a legal monopoly I believe.
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EbulGery,of course you are right and we all have to learn the hard way,
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EbulGery,of course you are right and we all have to learn the hard way,
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continued...and I go in Betting Shops many youngsters go in and pump money in they cannot afford.
At least a £2 max would slow these people down. People behind the jump must have real problems sleeping seeing the gloom and despondency and misery and poverty unfolding before their eyes. And they are party to it. |
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The point you are all missing on in terms of FOBT verses sports betting arguments is this...
AT NO POINT DOES THE BETTOR OF SPORTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BET AT A SPORTS EVENT THEN SEE THE RESULT AND HAVE HIS/HER BALANCE ADJUSTED IN THE SPACE OF 20 SECONDS, NOR IS THE GAME VIEWED AS HIS OWN PERSONAL GAME TO WHICH HE OR SHE BECOMES TRANS-FIXED AND ELF APPOINTED TO REDEEM THE LOSSES OF HIS/HER GAMING SESSION. |
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you are right Mike and these people may well have debts they have run up in raising the money for these machines
As regards skill, I think for some betting on horses is a skill, but for others it is just pot luck they have neither the intellect nor inclination to learn about what they are bettting on, it is just a bit of fun although overall I think it is fair to say some skill is ivolved Also I think punters who do have some aptitute for sports betting and put some work in.. and have control of their gambling..they may not all win, but suspect bookmakers dont make a lot out of them What the bookmakers want, is a punter with little knowledge and most importantly no control these are the mugs they make their money off just my opinion |
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Mar 17, 2013 -- 11:48AM, Big_Issue wrote:
Please explain the difference between losing £100 on here or £100 on a FOBT? The difference is about the same as spending £20 on energy drinks and £20 on a bag of crack cocaine hope that clears things up for you  |
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If I lost £3000 in a FOBT and went back with a sledgehammer and destroyed it, and got my money back,
would I be guilty of robbery, or just vandalism? |
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you get your cocaine cheap b/f...where do you get it
 oops..I know bad taste  |
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both pete
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In other words currently in the UK the playing of FOBTs on every high street are the most expensive additions
of all time and are causing more problems in economically poor areas of the country than any other form of addition. addition cost per week Coffee and tea £6 Energy drinks £20 Alchohol £50-£100 Drugs £ 50-£2000 gambling lottery-sports £50-£200 Gambling FOBTs £100-£10,000 and that amount is possible in one day currently |
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WHAT DO U THINK THE AVERAGE BET ON HERE IS 10,20,50 POUNDS OR MORE???
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About 3p due to bots imo.
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Some people do indeed spend more on Sports betting but most of these can afford it and do so on an exchange
with a better chance of a return with 100.5 % over-round. |
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bf fanatic the bookies should employ you to argue the case against fobts.
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lets put it all another way
If we assume that the average addicted FOBT player is playing at high stakes of say £100 per spin and lets say he can maintain that level of play for one hour, then the player would of staked say at 2 spins per minute £18,000 in one hour. IF he then went up to the counter and bet more than £100 on a horse race he would be referred to the manager and then H.Q. and then possibly be restricted to £40-£100 and this process would take five minutes. WHY THE DIFFERENCE AS CLEARLY THE PREVENTION OF LARGE STAKES OVER THE COUNTER IS NOT COSTING JOBS? |
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One of the most moronic threads ever put on this forum.
How anyone can say there is no difference to punting on here or on a FOBT is beyond me. You need sectioning |
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sorry £12,000 per hour staked on an FOBT at £100 a spin and 2 per minute.
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We go from £12,000/hour to deprived areas!!!
Wouldn't you just like to know if anybody has ever done that,I think not.Meanwhile it gets quoted more and more. As for all the talk about not getting on,I know somebody that had a huge cash bet on Sir Des Champs,without any problem.There will always be restrictions on uncompetitive races,but for posters to talk about it as the norm,is the same nonsense as the £12,000/hour player. |
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As for all the talk about not getting on,I know somebody that had a huge cash bet on Sir Des Champs,without any problem
Was it a FOBT player, as they seem to be the only ones not struggle to get a bet on, or was it someone who habitually loses with that bookmaker ? For someone who has over 40 accounts restricted by various bookmakers, it is the norm I'm afraid. Nobody really thinks anyone actually loses £12,000 (it's really £18,000). It's just used to make the point that one is capable of doing it, emphasising the speed of play without time to consider between plays. The same could not be said of any shrewd punter whose chance of staking £12,000 in an hour is impossible with today's bookmakers, given their restrictions. |
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Unbiased you are one sad deluded fecker.Leaving aside whether or not addictive games of chance should be allowed inside premises originally designed to cater for over the counter betting,to suggest restrictions are not the norm is plainly rubbish.
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Thanks very much for the praise,nice of you to say.Reading posts properly would be beneficial to you,as posters saying things like "nobody can get £100 bet,or nobody can get on",is as stupid as saying players can lose £12,000/hour.
Of course people can get on,depending on what,or where. The generalisations are the nonsense,putting everything into a neat compartment.For my part,I found leaving each way requests alone does help to get on. Oh,you didn't praise ,you abused and swore instead,pathetic! |
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TRD.Racing
Spot on. |
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bf fanatic the bookies should employ you to argue the case against fobts.
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When I used to be a mug punter I played these machines and I won the max payout of £500 from £13 on a single number a fair few times. I was never stopped from playing though.
When I won 2k on four separate horses on Monday I found my account shut on Monday evening. During cheltenham week as well. How is this fair? |
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Total stake - profit/loss on FOBTs
Ditto horse racing |
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When I used to be a mug punter.....
How is this fair? You'd get on in my shop. |
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Pete - the thing that really gets me is that the same shop I lost in for 15 years has now made me sp only. I used to get pretty much anything I wanted on pricewise horses. Biggest ever was 250 on attaché at 33/1. They now restrict to 5ew. Apparently u can still get larger amounts on pricewise if u are an 'a''category punter. I asked what u need to do to obtain this category and was told basically someone who loses every day on the machines.
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Jeez! They're not exactly full of tact, are they?
I was just winding you up, but the point is that you need to be more imaginative. You're like someone who thinks they want to play fair like some of the big layers from the middle of last century. You need to start outwitting them because once you're beating the percentages, you're a marked man. |
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unbiased you really are the most pathetic poster on here and I include those who spank and allegedly interfere with their Charges...
Why would I want to bet win only with a "Bookmaker" when in the races I target I can get far better odds on here... The trouble with a Democratic Society is that morons like you can post their lies hoping that there is someone out there who will believe them.. Oh and I am not interested in the myth that is "Pricewise" or the biggest poster (to lay) Hugh Taylor... |