Graham Cunningham

He'll be thrilled when he realises he's got a quarter the odds for the place.

A bit harsh Bert

Matt calling Cunningham insane. 

Was Cunningham trying to grovel to Nicholls, it looked to me that Nicholls also thought he was off his head.

when gc was asked this morning about the latest race fixing or what ever you want to call it i thought his answer

is it really worth having the aw was a very interesting thought ,

something perhaps the bha need to sit down and discuss because in the end the whole game by outsiders will appear like this stuff.

GC has some interesting views Jimnast on the long term future funding of the sport, how it is run & policed, of course, he may never be given his head & allowed to freely discuss his views properly on RUK & CH4 but I would like to see it happen, I couldnt give a sh!t what he tips, I form my own opinion, but I do think pundits/presenters have a role to play in how racing & stories from within the sport are reported & looked at. I find GC to be one of the better ones in those instances.

Good point,Jimnast.

Most of these corruption charges seem to revolve around AW racing.
Most of the vehement posts on here revolve around AW racing.

Do we need it ?

I concur with jimnast & jonjo.

And flyingbolt, whoevever he may be

old rope money for

re arrange

even from the racecourse bookmakers point of view its the aw where they get the most stick with some of these over rounds,in fact theres ill feeling been created by the fact lingfield are now paying bookmakers to turn up,until gc suggested it this morning i hadnt thought about it but i must admit i think its time we called it a day.

flyingbolt

i think the last real talking point in nh was sean fox falling of one at fontwell,i think since then theres been over 20 banned for non ziggers on the aw.

Did anyone see the recording of that fiasco from Belgium on ATR last night?

Probably the worst example of 'horseplay' you're EVER likely to see...by far the most rancid I've witnessed.

For once I'll defend Luke Harvey as he couldn't say what he really wanted to, and effectively gagged himself - his silence spoke volumes.
He summed it up well in saying he has a mortgage to pay...even the professional fence-sitters have an excuse sometimes.

More dog racing would be preferable to the AW racing.

hello jonjo hope your well.


spoke to and old pall from the past at cheltenham today quito .

another thing i saw mapletoft on tele this week slagging of a french jockey at cagnes sur mer,he will never have seen anything wrong with any of this mob we have to put up with over here.

Says it all, jimnast.

Personally I have no interest in AW.I find it boring. I don't think it's an entirely AW problem though. It's a low class racing problem.We don't need rubbish racing.A cull in fixtures of around 20% would benefit racing in the long term. Pandering to mediocrity doesn't work in any field.

flyingbolt

i gave it a go in 2001 and 2002,just wolly and southwell,and found it ok,but i missed the jumpers to much so went back to them,to an extent i trusted it back then,but from what i see and hear now anybody doing the form needs to have a word with themselfs.

A bloke asked me today why Cunningham was putting SANTUAIRE UP against Sprinter Sacre.Because he is a talking head mate.End of.

I think GC has compromised his views to get the gig on TV. Thats not to say he wont revert to being a good guy if he gets the opportunity. Hes done well to get a platform where he can do some good. He stands out on C4 as the one bloke who aint really a gravytrainer. Cut him some slack and who gives a tozz what his selections are anyway.

correct mike if your watching the morning line for tips your in need of proper help.

Yes, in good order thanks Jimnast, hope to catch up with you this season.

The All Weather racing is just to keep betting turnover going for those who have no interest in gambling on other sports. By virtue of its nature and the low quuaility of horses involved its bound to have an element of some people trying to make a fast buck. Its not unsimilar to dog racing, everyone gets their turn at some point.

As for pundits commenting adversely on bad rides its fraught with the danger of law suits.

If you cannot say 'i cannot see past Sprinter Sacre' then you really need to be doing something else.

You are just putting punters away otherwise.

look forward to it jonjo



councillor

law suits surely you can have an opinion ?

Try and tell that to the court when someone is suiing you. That is no dfence

A lot of this all weather (which I detest) is tantamount to legalised flapping. IMOH

busvaldo

rightly or wrongly he obviously could see past sprinter sacre.

saxon i had a horse that went flapping at howick,its straighter.

I was googling ownership finances when i was sposed to be working in the week and the yanks say get a decent winner of a claimer and you can cover a years fees. In this country it may well not cover a fortnight. The banded racing was a tester to see how cheap the courses could fill the cards for and surprise surprise they are paying peanuts and filling the cards.

I take it you got a shoeing today Jim!

Professional Punters do not appear on Racing Channels for a very good reason.
They do not need £300 per day extra.
Wannanbee morons like TSD crave attention and will send you in the same "Poorhouse" they inhabit.

SF you are right it is Licensed Flapping though. Also with prize money so low people have to gamble to make it pay which is wrong.

Cost to train a horse = £1200/1500 per month. A set of shoes £ 70 per month, Travelling to the races £2.50 a mile. Jockey £180 a ride Entry fees £60 per month. Then you are running for £1700 to the winner of an AW race. You may have a winner every 8 races if you are lucky.

GC dont claim to be a pro punter hes always been a journalist analyst. I think pro punters dont spend their time slating an honest fellow doing his job. I think GC knows exactly what happened to Lydia Hislop when she spoke her mind a little too frankly.

bushvaldo ?

It is very simple chaps,you will be cleaned out in the Queen Mother.

Forgot vets bills lol.  If the horse gets sick or injured then you will be burning fity pound notes by the dozen

Stand my bet then.

What a ridiculous selection

Particularly as Nicholls himself was sat a few feet away telling everyone it had virtually no chance

He should come on and apologise to viewers 

Talks as if he knows what he is on about but his conclusions prove that he knows fek all about the game

In GC's defence,he is there to try and provide an "insight" into the race.
Viewers are free to listen or ignore.

busvaldo

what is shoeing please ?

if yifter could make a case for that getting beat,he,s going to make a case for 99,9% of odds on shots to get beat

Why would anyone want his insight when he cannot tip shyte out of a bucket

Any fool can go on there and spout a lot of old bollox that can be read in the racing post

Unless he can find winners his words are just a stream of meandering pointless garbage

oh dear

I would love to see and hear some of the pillocks on here trying to do the job This place would have a field day and then find something really funny to go at. The guy can speak elquently he makes sense. He just gets it wrong sometimes. Why do we expect them always to be right no pundit or punter is else this site would not exist

Thats exactly what I said jimnast when I saw his selections today funnily enough

Glad you agree

Gets it wrong sometimes

Got any tips for tomorrow,Peter the Painter ?

Sounds as though you have the game by the bollox.

Tes

I have a subscription service

PM me and I will give you details

well he is not on  there for his looks thats for sure
have to say that selection was poor too btw

from the bits ive seen yifters selections havnt had the bookies running for cover since he started for ch 4,and todays tip reminded me of the journo who,s bottom of the posts football naps table and tips espanyol to win at the nou camp at 22 to 1

Few Pundits are worth listening to if  you are in pursuit of making money.
However,I will alwys take time out to listen to Neesom's views on Hunters and not dismiss out of hand Mellish.

I'd like to hear what a genuinely good paddock judge has to say about the readiness or otherwise of horses from seeing them up close like Gerald Delamere used to. That would be useful. I've no interest in what any pundits pick.

Think he comes across as a natural in front of the camera and seems to have a genuine passion for horseracing and betting.

very good and well informed, makes a change form the usual pundits.

roadrunner ....picking a few winners now and again would help his cause.......unlikely to happen though

Richard Hoilles and Jim MCgrath are much better form students, but G C not afraid to make a contentious point... he also speaks very well.

hd...shows a gift of the gab  is far more important than finding a few winners

portmanpark,


good evening. As stated above, if you're relying on pundits to make profits you should be doing something else !

they showed reve de sivola's last race which was awesome form, thought that was a tip in itself.
learned ap mcoy when he rides for rebecca Curtis strike rate is 47%, you do learn things,i agree
the tips are usually useless.

hd.......i disagree.......laying cunninghams tips will make you a fortune

  K

Hesaqwue Hunt.

roadrunner46 • January 26, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
they showed reve de sivola's last race which was awesome form, thought that was a tip in itself.
learned ap mcoy when he rides for rebecca Curtis strike rate is 47%, you do learn things,i agree
the tips are usually useless.

thought it was more like 30% ?

still not bad mind

After timing here obviously,backed the winner and had a spec rev fcast with the 3rd.

AP is what he is..............because he is not a bad jockey invho?

To this muppet cunningham on and get rid of mcririck is bezar . i wish mac had been there when the **** tipped up sanc. to beat the machine.

Some on here still struggling with a simple concept it seems.

As it happened he was well in hand, but there was a good chance that SS could have been extremely buzzed up, and may have failed to get home in the conditions.
Sanctuaire ruined his own race as it transpired. The way SS emptied in the Supreme (which was a long time ago yes) suggests he is not bullet proof and invincible. To date nothing has put it all together to test him out properly over fences, imv.

no, cos nothing's good enough to

I spoke to him yesterday after the first race at the back of the Best Mate enclosure.

He's a decent bloke.

One thing he does know is the form and he talks a lot of sense.....he seems a good guy to me,ok yesterdays tips were a bit crazy granted i think he was trying to be a bit to clever with sanctuaire  ... at the end of the day we are ALL GUESSERS!

hello reynerd my old pal hope your having a nice weekend

hi jimnast a good yesterday thank you ...backed at fishers cross and the new one..layed coneygree BIG...nice double whammy hope you done ok me old mucker

i had a very pleasant days sport at prestbury park yesterday,not sure i saw any festival winners re the championship races with the obvious exception,however i do think the first winner is more than useful,of out now but i am sure i will bump into you again on here,good luck reynerd.

CIDER you spouting crap nothing as put ss under pressure cos nothings as good as him muppet

gave up the fast pics

gave up tipping line

gave up in running

and would now rather sit in the studio earning a few bob,how much more evidence do you need that he isnt a good judge

Can anyone elaborate on the business when Graham offered to kick someone's ass at Chester a few years back?

I dont think he gave up the tipping line i think his clients did

no, he did...and refunded subs

Did you get every penny back duncan

duncan........are you admiting to having payed cunningham for tips......if you did you should be very ashamed of yourself

I wouldnt call them tips

never paid anyone for tips

^ what about the ''tabs?''

okay duncan , the site was showing a long losing run anayway so least he could isnt it when he realised he couldnt show a profit ,

Seem to remember his staking plan was pretty mental aswell

okay duncan , the site was showing a long losing run anayway


the site was only going for 2 months...can we please get our facts right if we are going to sl@g people off?

I was the guy he offered to meet (behind the stands or in the car park I cannot remember which) after I pointed out some simple facts about his punting pedigree. I think I also stated that IMO he we was like all other media folk trying to climb the ladder ie- avoid talking about punter related issues that would damage his career but no doubt help the punter. To be fair I think he regretted the threat and saw it as a rather stupid outburst. I offered to meet him by the way to talk about some of the points I was making, not for a punch up !. He declined to answer, realising I think by then that threats of violence had weakend his psotion of argument.

Does not surprise me at all Olias. I remember when he started his tipping service BetMaverick, which Nick Luck mocked on RUK 'had an award winning website' http://www.betmaverick.com/index.php?page=home. Whatever happened to the tipping service?
The fella could not tip himself out of bed. Just look at Sat on the boring line. He tips Sprinter Sacre after saying on the programme that 1-5 did not interest him and he wanted at least 2-5 or 4-9. Then he tipped Grand Crus (so still a level stake loss).
Tell you what GC, any time you want to go heads up with me in a tipping comp for a grand just get in touch on here, and I REALLY mean that!

To be honest I am pleased they have employed a failed tipping line provider, you really do not want a well informed puner spouting on about successful betting methods on the TV. If on the other hand he ploughed a furrow whereby he got behind many of the concerns of the common punter which incidently should be the concerns of the racing authorities as well, then I would be the first speak up for GC. Somehow I think this is unlikely. You will also notice that in the past he has come on here and given his twopennyworth, something I admire him for. Now however his silence is deafening. He has secured the prime time TV position and he is not going to jeopardise that with comments on here.

levelstakes
if you read the op you will note that this joker tipped sanctuaire not ss

How was Sanctuaire going to beat Sprinter Sacre? I mean, really....who would have had a win bet against Sprinter Sacre? As for Grands Crus....

He tipped Sanctuaire! Thats even worse. Now I know why people call that programme 'The Put Away line'. Christ, I hope he gets it right come Champion Chase day

His old site is still there , not taking new subs tho , until gravy gets low

I like GC personally but he did himself no favours on Saturday tipping Sanctuaire.

By all means look for an EW option, but as someone has already pointed out, its easy after the race.

Sanctuaire...just looks a right dog that thing

he didnt tip it ew.he recommended a £50 win

but as someone has already pointed out, its easy after the race.

no, KK, its easy when you get paid if your tips lose

exactly. all of us on here live or die by what we back or lay. fellas like GC are weighed in for just tipping a horse regardless of their levelstake tally come the ed of the year (i have no doubt someone is toting up GC's charity bets score as we speak)

Grand Crus!!!!!!!!!! Tipped up for charity by a supposed racing pundit in heavy ground over 3m1f at Cheltenham!!!!!!!!!!


And Sanctuaire as well to beat SS after what we saw at Sandown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing beats what he said about the 2009 Arc. Youmzain would have beat STS at level weights