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By:
GT-MOLE
When: 20 Jan 13 00:21
Yesterday was the first time I have watched CH4(for months) Dewey,Mick was totally out of his comfort zone.

National Hunt I have no problem with Mick,he might even have thrived with the old line up given time.

With this new shower/his old muckers.........disaster.

Chimps have been trained to use a touch screen better than that lot and Mick just does not fit in and never will if they carry on a sterile,self serving show like yesterday.Worse than the old but at least Mick would have found a niche eventually with them,once Balding shows her fat,supercilious a£$ they might as well all pack their bags.

I will offer anyone evens to any money CH4 viewing figures rise for a month and then plummet bar the "Festival" meetings.
By:
dewey
When: 20 Jan 13 00:58
And I will offer you evens to any money - that it won't make any difference.
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 20 Jan 13 01:53
Think we can safely assume that Mick Fitzgerald's  script for the program was to be a Sea The Stars fan and would have watched a re-run of the Arc prior to going on air - in fact, perhaps just a re-run of the last few furlongs as no mention was made of the task that Kinane was faced with trying to settle him in the early stages, which was one of the lasting memories of that race.

Dire production today.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 20 Jan 13 10:02
Boring boring boring. No pizzazz and they miss Franks and certainly Big Mac whether you like latter or not because he livens it up when things become tedious.
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 20 Jan 13 10:43
I think that looking at the overall response on this topic it is safe to say that the vast majority dont like the new set up! Words like " bland, boring and painful" seem to be the most used description of this dire programme. Many a reasoned argument put forward on both sides, but as we are ALL racing fans I reckon "SWITCH OFF" is definitely NOT amongst them. It is a racing programme and is there primarlily for racing fans. Therefore "switching off" is an utterly negative response. I want to see the programme back to something like it used to be. Everv since the Guest Test slot ( as I call it that period) when the programme took one almighty backward step into the abyss, it has steadily gone even lower. All this touch screen stuff?? Is that supposed to be what we all want?? I cannot speak for you but its not for me! It IS dross in my opinion , and I sincerely hope they go back to basics, AND SOON!
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 20 Jan 13 13:13
That`s a bit more measured EvilGrin
By:
johnwayne
When: 20 Jan 13 13:34
how could you make a programme from the all weather on kempton interesting? trouble is we on here are all die hard fans who know as much as those presenting and do not need the dumbing down which seems to always light the touchpaper
By:
Ramruma
When: 20 Jan 13 13:54
The Kempton aw preview ML shows the problem. For a start, the programme was cut in half.

Racing fans, many with jobs during the week, watch the Morning Line primarily for a preview of that afternoon's racing, and if Kempton is the only meeting, then the ML should cover Kempton and not turn up its collective nose because Ascot has been snowed off.

The Morning Line's model should be Football Focus. Review the past week; preview this afternoon; emphasis on the latter. Do not "bring on the dancing girls" to try to convert non-racing fans who are not watching anyway.

The afternoon programme should also ape the football. Show us what is happening; tell us what is happening. Do not assume that an audience which has tuned in to watch horseracing will be bored by the sight of horses in the paddock or going down to the start. Show us more: more camera angles; better, specialist pundits; more imaginative graphics. But remember we want to watch the racing.
By:
Facts
When: 20 Jan 13 14:51
EVILROYSLADE     20 Jan 13 10:43 
I think that looking at the overall response on this topic it is safe to say that the vast majority dont like the new set up! Words like " bland, boring and painful" seem to be the most used description of this dire programme. Many a reasoned argument put forward on both sides, but as we are ALL racing fans I reckon "SWITCH OFF" is definitely NOT amongst them. It is a racing programme and is there primarlily for racing fans. Therefore "switching off" is an utterly negative response. I want to see the programme back to something like it used to be. Everv since the Guest Test slot ( as I call it that period) when the programme took one almighty backward step into the abyss, it has steadily gone even lower. All this touch screen stuff?? Is that supposed to be what we all want?? I cannot speak for you but its not for me! It IS dross in my opinion , and I sincerely hope they go back to basics, AND SOON!



agreed
By:
posy
When: 20 Jan 13 14:55
more chance of balding being mounted by a colt than a jockey
By:
EVILROYSLADE
When: 21 Jan 13 09:43
That was Ch 4's big plan for next Saturday Posy!Devil
By:
MJK
When: 21 Jan 13 12:18
verbotene good shout re Sea The Stars. Fitzgerald still hasn't copped that the horse was purposely buried to settle it. Anyhow I'd much rather watch the old Big Match on Sat morning's now. No teamwork whatsoever on C4 racing, all trying to be clever and all out for themselves.
By:
knuckles
When: 21 Jan 13 13:27
Channel 4 missed a golden opportunity when redoing there team.
They should of employed Lydia off the racing channel imo.
By:
Facts
When: 21 Jan 13 14:14
Think she's got more sense/self respect than to join the C4 shower !
By:
artie
When: 21 Jan 13 14:42
What the team needs is someone with vast racing knowledge,plenty of presenting experience and enthusiasm, plus a good rapport with the general public.The name Thompson springs to mind.
By:
Facts
When: 21 Jan 13 14:45
^ you sad tw*t
By:
artie
When: 21 Jan 13 14:47
^Ho.Ho.Ho. Red rag to bull.Never fails.Ho.Ho.Ho.
By:
Facts
When: 21 Jan 13 15:14
^ neither do you - cretin
By:
artie
When: 21 Jan 13 15:15
Ho.Ho.Ho.He's not messing about.
By:
posy
When: 21 Jan 13 15:25
derek...you do wind us up
By:
artie
When: 21 Jan 13 15:29
Whoa big poser.
By:
scaredmoney
When: 21 Jan 13 15:35
give it a rest artie.....it gets very tiresome Sad
By:
artie
When: 21 Jan 13 15:37
Not for me.
By:
Bradford Elvis
When: 21 Jan 13 15:54
GT-MOLE.....regarding Bill Mclaren being a great unbiased commentator....I think you will find he was greatly biased against Rugby League.
By:
posy
When: 21 Jan 13 17:56
artie ...too much time on your hands ;surely you can get a gig opening an Aldi somewhere.
By:
know all
When: 21 Jan 13 18:33
from millhouse
flyingbolt, you may be naive to the way this industry works, but whether you like it or not, these programmes are designed to keep punters betting and losing - that way the racing industry, that funds itself through a share in the bookmaking industry's profits, makes more money, and C4, a commercial platform whose objective is ONLY to make a profit, continues to receive betting industry sponsorship and advertising revenue.

The broadcast exists to help its commercial partners remove the money of the people watching - it's not there to make punters' lives easier, which, I would suggest, is why it employs tractable bookmaker mouthpieces, presenters with family links to the racing industry, failed tipsters, and 'pundits' who couldn't make a profit from betting if they had until the end of the century to practice...

Millhouse you cant get something that wrong

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By:
posy
When: 21 Jan 13 19:33
know all....no wonder artie has gone quiet -83.4%..would be interested to know how he justifies his tipping line scam with results like that
By:
Facts
When: 21 Jan 13 19:42
once a week charity bets doesn't equal a profitable long term betting strategy. Need to be able to do it day in day out every day and show you can make a living out of it. That's the true test !
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Jan 13 20:47
Once a week charity bets are good enough for a once a week programme imo.
By:
Facts
When: 21 Jan 13 21:06
have missed you point the . hth !
By:
know all
When: 22 Jan 13 02:09
facts and millhouse must be one of the same

once a week charity bets doesn't equal a profitable long term betting strategy. Need to be able to do it day in day out every day and show you can make a living out of it. That's the true test !

it dont matter how you do it once a week 5 times a week a profit is a profit

Those figures are a revelation
By:
Facts
When: 22 Jan 13 08:55
no there not.  long term betting strategy. -hth !!!
By:
MJK
When: 22 Jan 13 11:48
know all some good points there. I would also add in the cretins used by the bookmakers to give punters 'tips' every day.
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