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By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 21 Sep 15 13:49
Sir Percy Sir Percy Sir Percy was my initial thought too.

I'm even wondering if he might actually become a bit commercial this year in which case I fear La Rausing might get a bit fruity with the fee.
By:
proxygene
When: 21 Sep 15 14:16
Temper that statement with the chances of me being in the right place at the right time. Cue an empty mare by Oct 1st.
By:
potentialmillionaire
When: 21 Sep 15 14:51
Ah, maybe time for a rethink Laugh
By:
Koo....
When: 22 Sep 15 14:28
My mate has his first homebred runner here at Beverley.  Hold On Magnolia, fingers crossed for a nice run.
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 22 Sep 15 15:08

Sep 22, 2015 -- 2:28PM, Koo.... wrote:


My mate has his first homebred runner here at Beverley.

By:
Somerset Sam
When: 22 Sep 15 15:09
He should be delighted by that run Koo
By:
Koo....
When: 22 Sep 15 18:11
Yeah, we keep the mares and foals all at the same place.  Convenient for me less so for him, so in a way I doubley hoped he ran well for him.  Really nice that they produced a decent runner with the first one they prepared away from their own.  Lets hope he can win before too long and that my 2yo stays sound to run later in the year.
By:
Koo....
When: 25 Sep 15 12:52
Also bought one out of a seller the other day.  Legal Art.  Looks quite nice Brian says, just hope a change of scenary means she can show us a fair bit more on the track and knock off a maiden before the end of the year
By:
Koo....
When: 04 Oct 15 20:31
Nothing sorted yet, but a quick look at some STATS and I cant really use Monsieur Bond as they are a bit slow to mature, only 5% as 2yo's in the last 5 years.  Whereas Haafhd gets a respectable 11%, therefore for the ones I dont want to travel far or spend alot, Haafdh will be number one choice.  Going up market, I have a gut feeling Dream Ahead might produce some really talented horses.  A few might be a bit headstrong from what I see at the track but talented like himself.  If he does make it to the higher echelons, then its best I take a punt now, so I will probably bite the bullet and try and send him 1 or 2 this year.  Those are just my early thoughts really.  Going to start looking at the mares in the HIT book to see if there are any stand out fillies in there that might be in my price range.

Tried to buy a Sir Percy at 40k over in Ireland so will consider using him, or I shouldn't have bid.  Lots mentioned before will be thought of long and hard such as Mount Nelson, SP, Aussie Rules Archipenko.  All get their fair share of winners on my basic stats.  Sir Percys with some dig in the ground seem a irresistible combination.  Might breed one with a very strong propensity for juice, but least you know where your likely to race.
By:
truehoncho
When: 13 Oct 15 08:15
After looking at quite a few Casamento's over the last couple of weeks I would consider getting your mare to Ireland Koo. They really are nice types and I would be suprised iof he didn't turn out ok. Also his pedigree is really nice for a cheap stallion and a filly by him could be bred with if you fancied it.
By:
Koo....
When: 13 Oct 15 20:58
I bought a nice Sir prancelot and was told by a few that many of his looked the part.  Ive only got 2 I can send over the ireland as Im not keen on sending mares in foal. 
Ive pencilled 2 in for Haafhd and cant find much fault with him in regards he gets lots of winners at a very good strike rate at 2yo and 3yo.  Takes some of the romance out of the equation, but cuts the cost as i can walk in there easily, so whats stopping me sending the entire lot ?
By:
logikal
When: 21 Dec 15 21:37
Hey koo noticed you mentioned swiss spirit earlier and you'd enquire.

What did you think when you asked, did something put you off as guess you never used him?

His foals seemed to have sold relatively well.

Haafhd looks a decent choice with the strike rate you mentioned, but I thought with his credentials he might just have thrown a top class one by now.
By:
truehoncho
When: 22 Dec 15 15:23
Hi Koo,

did you see that Casamento is now at Newmarket.
By:
Koo....
When: 23 Dec 15 12:41
I thought Id be all sorted out before now.  I did start looking but didnt finalise anything as fees hadnt all being announed.  Will look again at Casamento, my gut didnt fancy him having being stung twice with shamardals but that shouldnt affect my decisions now really.

Since the last update, Ananda Kanda 'absorbed' this years Faarh which was annoying as its a year wasted.  Certral is having a biopsy this week to make sure she wont have any problems for this year.  Everything else seems fine for this year though and just to prove it can be done my mate Dan managed a 2yo hombred winner yesterday with Hold On Magnolia.

My 2yo hombred this year has gone off her food so we'll end up racing next year.  Never even got close enough to name her but she has no major issues so hopefully she'll take her work better as she gets bigger and stronger.

Now weve a few days off from studying the form, Im hoping to have a fairly good idea where i stand with stallions.


List of mares for covering this year.

Perfect Persuasion - in foal to Lethal Force
Ananda Kanda - Lost this years cover well into Novemeber
Certral - Not in foal so hopefully a fairly early cover, need a good fertile stallion to make sure
Sorcellerie - In foal to Cityscape with a nice strong Haafhd foal
Run Fat Lass Run - In foal to Delegator
Legal Art - Want to race in foal, shows plenty more than her mark at home so surely she can win a couple. More tempted to stay local so its easier to keep her fitness levels up between covers. 
Lily Lenor - Produces big foals every year, maybe too big for the flat so shes in foal to Malinas.  Tempted to go back to middle distance flat cover though, has a more racy looking Haafdh being broken in.


The numbers soon add up, but Ive got next to no runners these days and Balty Boys pays for himself and a few of the also rans.  So its wasnt too draining on resources last year.

Thats about everything I think, I would have bought Balty Boys half sister at the sales had i remember she was going through the ring that day, but if i do look to buy any more mares I need to start working out which ones of the above are expendable.


7 mares ffs  where did that come from.
By:
truehoncho
When: 23 Dec 15 12:56
Hi Koo,

BB was one of my favorites this year. I backed him at Newmarket 1st time up at 10-1 and he paid for the whole meeting with a little left over. He looked really good and forward that day.
Well done to your mate. I put a homebred 2yo in training this year and was pretty confident it would win as a 2yo but the trainer only ran it once and gave a lot of excuses, she will be out 1st week January and will win soonish but I really wanted a 2yo winner on the mares page. He won't be getting another one.

Good luck with all you covers I will use Fast Company but after that i'm not sure. Probably Casamento and maybe even Cityscape.
By:
Young Broodmare Filly Wanted
When: 24 Dec 15 17:31
Mr Medici fits local cheap middle distance flat horse.  Made his debut as a 2 year old in Ireland in April also
By:
Koo....
When: 02 Jan 16 20:33
I wrote it all down the other day.  Was keen on Equiano, Haafhd and Cityscape.  Had one other sire written down but have lost my pad of paper.  Napping my 2yo has destroyed it
By:
truehoncho
When: 02 Jan 16 21:09
it must have been Casamento Koo. What about Lucarno, or is that just too far into the twighlight zone?
By:
truehoncho
When: 02 Jan 16 21:10
..... and Cityscape is on my list too. How about a match in 2018?
By:
truehoncho
When: 02 Jan 16 21:11
ok 2019
By:
Koo....
When: 02 Jan 16 21:23
It could have been Fast Company or Casemento.  Been trying to upload a pic of my homebred but cant work it out.  Stallion was my 70 rated Dream Win.   Quite a nice type as well.
By:
Koo....
When: 02 Jan 16 21:24
It uploaded fine to twitter, if anyone wants to go scroll through a few pages to see the now 2yo in question.
By:
Koo....
When: 02 Jan 16 21:26
https://twitter.com/KoosRacingClub/status/679632840041037824

hopefully that works.  Mare was very ordinary, a dual juvenile hurdle winnner.  I should have let him cover some of mine, but it takes long to see what they look like, you dont think its worth bothering.
By:
Koo....
When: 17 Jan 16 19:38
Will this post disappear into the abyss
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 16 19:39
unlesss it keeps getting bumped to the top it will but shouldnt be that hard to find
By:
Koo....
When: 17 Jan 16 19:42
Couldnt see the bloodstock forum, it disappeared from the new form a while but remain in classic.  Then that disappeared, a shame its gone as there were some contributions i liked to read up on and cant see people from there using the main form as threads drop down so quick in here
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 16 19:42
good luck with the home bred, looks good   Grin
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 16 19:43
there have been a few posts about it going one of the better forums
By:
onlooker
When: 17 Jan 16 20:21
I am assuming that this thread was originally on Bloodstock & Breeding Forum - given Koo's recent postings ...


Koo.... 17 Jan 16 19:38 
Will this post disappear into the abyss

Koo.... 17 Jan 16 19:42 
Couldnt see the bloodstock forum, it disappeared from the new form a while but remain in classic.  Then that disappeared, a shame its gone as there were some contributions i liked to read up on and cant see people from there using the main form as threads drop down so quick in here
-------------

How has it been brought across to Horse Racing Forum? - or ...

Have the Betfair moderators transferred it across - something which I very much doubt.
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 16 20:32
looks like koo brought it over
By:
onlooker
When: 17 Jan 16 20:42
But, how, though?

If you Cut & Paste a thread - it does NOT reproduce in the EXACT SAME FORMAT as the original, when you re-post it.

Maybe he used his 'status' to get Betfair to transfer it.
By:
the dealer
When: 17 Jan 16 20:43
ah good point
By:
onlooker
When: 18 Jan 16 14:35
Koo....

Can you enlighten us on the above postS - re: Thread transfer from Bloodstock & Breeding?
By:
Koo....
When: 18 Jan 16 14:58
if u search for the old threads they are there, i just posted a reply and waited to see where it went
By:
Deltâ
When: 18 Jan 16 15:08
I just replied to an old one on there and it just topped on B & R forum!
By:
doncaster rover
When: 19 Jan 16 12:04
Not a owner breeder but was posting on that now defunct forum about my two yearlings now 2 year olds I know some were interested in my Casamento topic ,I can now tell those that read the post that I have named the filly of which I own 25% CASTLE HILL CASSIE,T Royal applause Colt has not been named yet and has been gelded
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