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John Francome hangs up his microphone after 27 years
John Francome hangs up his microphone after 27 years
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1983 King George http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IauQQ4Z1kzY
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highly respected still.... within the game.... says enough
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my feeling about his career as a pundit is that he could have been really, really good if he had done some homework/studying
i always got the impression he turned up and winged it i do agree there are far worse, as mentioned above. |
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What made Jonnhy in two words
Fred Winter. the rest is history As a TV pundit i /we all can see why he has packing it in Jonn you were the best over the fences as your record show ..nobody can argue with records Merry Christmas to you and your friends |
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@Happy Valley -- you are probably right about Francome winging it on the day but unlike many of his critics, I think that homework would have been a bad thing. What Francome gave me was an expert view of aspects of a day's racing I cannot easily see for myself on television: conformation, demeanour, raceriding and so on. I do not need him to read the formbook because Jimbo does that (and so do I).
Still, soon Francome will be gone and we'll have Micky Fitz to tell us whether Nicky Henderson fancies his runner, and whatever else it is the man does. |
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ramrunna your obviously in the francome school of reading a race,you arnt honestly coming on this forum and saying dunguib didnt win at cheltenham because of his jumping,
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Respect as a jockey although not always a punters friend as far I remember, he could beat a fancy with an inferior horse, one of the few jockeys that could do that. My biggest wins with him were Brown Chamberlin in the Sun All and the Hennessey both backed around 7/1 as far I can remember.
As a pundit he was interesting to listen to on occasions but honestly I can't understand those that think he was a good tipster. |
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where is he going?
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Ok guys this is true RE Jockeys .......
The greatest of em all once said Jockeys make lousy tipsters Who said that ............Lester Piggot |
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xmoneyx .. if your talking about John Francome .. he a million plus in the bank guy ...were you going.
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Ok guys you want to here dull **** from ex jocks
dale gibbson jason weaver micks fiz luck harvey to name but 4 .. ok its the season of good will but they are hopeless ..... lay every thing they pick and you will be quids in |
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mill+ nice
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It goes somthing like this
The fav is a CERT .. all the Big Three Agree The TV boys come on talking about value this has a chance 28/1 thats over priced 16/1 cannot see this out of the frame 33/1 race over the cert hacks in . the TV boys dont get one of thier 3 picks in the frame move on next race .. nothing said .. get the drift |
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xmoney thanks for a honest comment
franks wrote a book cant remember the name . but that pulled him a million plus ..take nowt away he was a very good jockey |
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Comes across as arrogant and not interested in the ordinary punter
Never known him tip a winner to the great unwashed but no doubt secured the best prices for himself by putting everyone away He seems a bit shocked that he has been ejected from the gravy train Good riddance to him |
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he was n't ejected - he chose to leave.
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IMO John was one of the very few jockeys that looked a natural when he made the transition from riding to racing pundit on tv. I haven't watched Ch4 racing or heard JF since RUK became available, but I see that that they have now signed Mick Fitzgerald up as one of the pundits; that just beggars belief.
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very good tipster for his bets on the morning line the thread on here about the betting tips on the morning line shows him in profit over the long term you cant ask for much more.
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He may have been a good jockey but he talks through his quarters. Prime example came as him and Jimbo discussed Barnet Fair's galloping riderless down the track at Ascot in July. Francome expressed the view that this actually increased the likelihood of the horse winning because it was a good pipe-opener.
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John Francome-brilliant jockey-lazy presenter-average tipster-charmed life-lucky man.
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great jockey, great character, awful tipster
2 out 3 ain't bad and he'll be missed. TV racing is doomed now - Persad and Balding  |
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Whatever you thought of the old set up I will be amazed if the New one is not a disaster, a longer programme during racing with the same amount of racing shown, in other words I expect there will be loads of utter drivel in the coming months to fill in the gaps, its easy to criticise but would it not be better to s l a g of the old regime once the the new have proved their worth.
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i dont get it a lot say he is a awful tipster but the facts are he is a good profitable tipster on morning line bets, if you are talking about general comments before a race then they are not tips just observations from someone who is employed to give them
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I really liked him. He wasn't really there for his tipping so much as for the occasional quips and the stories that he was able to tell. You've got to remember that the C4 lot are there for a Joe Public that want different things from the kind of seasoned form studiers that you probably get on betfair.
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Much better than Persad anyway. Not looking forward to that. He should stick to cricket, at which he's not so bad.
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For someone so 'opinionated' he found it very difficult to form an opinion about paddock negatives despite it being his job for many years. Just another pundit making sure he does not offend his buddies rather than do the job properly.
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dreadful tipster and very ordinary presenter.needs a haircut
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Francome:
i'll be ok a week monday good on yer John,you dont need this comedy show. you can concentrate more on worthwhile things in the game,rather thah the shower of **** that is Ch 4 racing. |
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Think Francs will be sorely missed. Best thing about him was the fact he would always be looking for a value bet, an outsider, worth an interest. Think this approach is of far more value than Jim McGrath explaining why some AOB hotpot is the best bet of the day at Evens.
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Francome has his good points--but without doubt the biggest loss love him or loathe him will be big mac. More insight the tanya and that other guy put together. After all we only watch racing to bet don't we??
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nope
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well lets put it another way you,d be a fool to base a sow around people who didnt, i think you,ll be counting on one hand the number of people tuning into ch 4 this afternoon who havnt had a punt
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he is a funny guy and as someone mentioned a bit risque, was in his his company on one Chester May meeting on ladies day , he said while surveying the crowds of orange legged beauties " be too easy this, be loik clubbing seals"
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actually sad to see him go
started following racing seriously about the time he joined the show seems a decent bloke who doesn't take himself too seriously only gripe was his paddock negatives, never once put up a horse that looked unfit etc be lucky |
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What a life he's had. at the Chester meeting they all stayed at the best hotel in town, ate and drink like kings, did a few hours work on the tele and had a cracking weeks holiday, all payed for by the production company and on top of that they got paid.
Best Jockey I've ever seen, it was like watching a show jumper clearing those big fences. Love the story how he through his misses out of his house for having a affair, don't know if it was true but it did sound like something he would do. Great guy he'll be missed by all his fans. |
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In a months time we may be begging for Francome, Big Mac Thommo, Down and Catt to return.
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A natural with the women if ever i saw one. Personality women love plus money and fame. Knockout combination.
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^^^ I have the same qualities
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