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When the new Channel 4 Racing team assemble for the first time at Cheltenham on New Year’s Day, the most gaping hole will not be the seat vacated by John McCririck but the one that John Francome quietly slipped out of the moment it was announced his present employer, Highflyer, had lost the contract.


By Marcus Armytage telegraph.co.uk 22 Dec 2012

After 27 years on our televisions Francome, 60, will cover his last King George VI Chase on Boxing Day and will hang up his microphone at Newbury on Saturday.

For the second time in his life Francome, the self-deprecating man with the Midas touch, the quick wit, the dash of devilment and no shortage of opinions, has quit something at which he has been a natural.

At Chepstow in April 1985 he took jump racing by surprise when he ‘retired’ after being briefly hung-up in the saddle. At that stage he had been the most successful jump jockey in history with 1,138 winners. In life, as in riding, timing is everything and again he has left racing wanting more.

“It doesn’t seem anything like 27 years,” he said reflecting on his role as a pundit. “I worked for a great team, the people behind the scenes like the electricians, riggers as much as anyone. I don’t care whether you’re a rocket scientist or a dustman as long as you’re good company, that’s the main thing.

“You might say I’ve got out on my own terms, others will say I jumped before I was pushed! It says a lot for how lucky I’ve been to go into two jobs, one with Fred Winter and his headlad, Brian Delaney, and the same with Andrew Franklin and John Fairley [Highflyer’s executive producers].

“I’ll miss giving my six pence worth on something interesting that’s happened. You can say what people at home what to know and I’ve always been a more than a little opinionated. I’ll miss our production meetings before racing most, you could make a comedy series about them, and for me it was just like travelling to the races when I was riding, it was an extension of being in the weighing room.”

Though he has not got anything specific to do in ‘retirement’ you can rest assured the grass will never grow under his feet. Current projects include building a new barn for his tenant, the trainer Clive Cox.

“I’ve got things to do and something will crop up,” he said and you know with Francome that something will.

Poet, a good flat horse he bought and had gelded because it was too much of a character to ever become a stallion, won first time out over hurdles at Newbury earlier in the week. He still rides out and schools horses, he has bought a JCB and he has taken over as president of the Injured Jockeys Fund from the late Lord Oaksey with whom he shared the small screen for a number of years.

“I never think I’m 60,” he admitted looking not a pound heavier than he was when he retired from the saddle. “I’m sure there’ll come a time when I can’t jump something or don’t want to but I schooled a couple of yaks this morning and loved it.”

He is not a man who would own a horse for the sake of it. “I took a chance on Poet,” he explained. “I’ve no desire to have it run in my colours. The only way we could get it near a pole to start with was corner it in the indoor school and put poles all around it, then he had to walk over them to get out. All the lads said he wouldn’t jump and yet at Newbury on Wednesday he jumped like a rabbit.”

Recalling his great friend Oaksey, he said: “We only had two things in common, a love of horses and a big head size. I forgot my helmet going racing one day and went round every jockey to see if I could get their’s to fit and was getting to the point that I wasn’t going to be able to ride when I tried on John’s. I rather fear his head had more in it than mine. His head was large for storing things, mine was large because I was too big for my boots.”

In his previous incarnation his King George victories came on Wayward Lad in 1983 and Burrough Hill Lad a year later. “Wayward Lad beat Fifty Dollars More, trained by Fred Winter. Though I was disappointed for Fred I’d been jocked off by the horse’s owner Sheikh Ali Abu Khamsin so it gave me great pleasure, a bit of icing on the cake to beat him.

“Burrough Hill Lad beat Combs Ditch a short-head and until the outcome of the photo was announced I have it in my mind that Jenny Pitman was ready to bollock me, though I don’t know why. Combs Ditch was a good horse on his day.”

If Francome’s departure from television is anything like the secretly organised drinks party earlier this month to celebrate his 60th – he said he would have “preferred to have sat down and watched Countryfile” – he will want to go without fanfare. If Newbury is abandoned it would probably suit him even better.

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By:
acey deucy
When: 22 Dec 12 22:28
I will miss him Big Time,as for his Tipping LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 22 Dec 12 22:29
Can't believe he's 60...He's been around that long i would have said nearer 70
By:
acey deucy
When: 22 Dec 12 22:34
Always hated the **** for shagging Tracey Bailey......I lo*ed That Gal.Love
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 22 Dec 12 22:44
he must be 77 he looks older
By:
GT-MOLE
When: 22 Dec 12 22:49
So did Kim Acey.............tbf though he never shagged your nutter as far as I know?Mischief
By:
wolfatthedoor
When: 22 Dec 12 22:54
good head of hair for a man of 60 tbf
By:
lockup
When: 22 Dec 12 23:27
great bloke very funny and not afraid to be opionated and a bit risque will be sorely missed.
By:
Nightfly
When: 23 Dec 12 04:33
awful pundit..no loss ...at all...33/1 way too big etc..comes in behind the ambulance....terrible off you go franks
By:
Tucho
When: 23 Dec 12 04:46
you say he's terrible, but he's miles better than what's about to come our way on c4...

be careful what you wish for Cry
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 10:46
If you look at Dr Feelgood's thread you'll notice he certainly wasn't the worst tipster on C4 by any means ... As Tucho said "Be careful what you wish for"
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 23 Dec 12 10:53
should have been booted of years ago
By:
Nightfly
When: 23 Dec 12 10:55
Thankfully i dont watch C4 'love Ins' anymore  for me , the 'personalities' were bigger than the sport on the show which extends right across the media nut TML was one of the worst trend setters.  In fairness Franks would offer up a few decent selections.. but he gave every horse a chance and that it what you are NOT looking for...And very much chairman of The Jockeys Union...Being bent when he was riding (OK not all of the time ) he cannot bring himself to critcise jocks  in any way shape of or form which is patently ridiculous and undermines his credibilty as a so called pundit
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 11:03
For the most part,the Racing Media in general,are loath to "ask questions of" ANYTHING or ANYONE  in racing unless  it's an easy target.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 23 Dec 12 11:03
you dont need any pundits on t.v ,look at the horses in parade ring and going down to the start is all you need
By:
unbiased
When: 23 Dec 12 12:29
As stated before,
paddock
going to post (especially for first appearance)
shows
race
replay
  note,punditry left out!
By:
mange
When: 23 Dec 12 12:35
Sign in If youve sent him a comb for Christmas......
By:
sageform
When: 23 Dec 12 12:45
Good luck Francs. He may sometimes make some odd remarks but he is the wittiest of the bunch by a mile and was a truly great jockey.
By:
pauli
When: 23 Dec 12 12:53
I stopped watching Channel 4 racing years ago but I quite liked Francome as a pundit and he was a great jockey.
By:
Barzalona
When: 23 Dec 12 12:55
Not a piece of top racing fraternity totty he has not tapped in the last 35 years... for that alone I commend him highly.
By:
in hell
When: 23 Dec 12 12:56
Agree with Sageform
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Dec 12 12:59
have this picture in the back of my mind of the likes of taylor,segal,melish,yifter,willourghby etc pouring over the weights and measures all week before a big handicap hurdle or chase, and francome appears on a sat morning with his fav line
7lbs nothing just 1 good jump, Cry
By:
postmannick
When: 23 Dec 12 13:09
i"d rather listen to franks than 99% of the so called experts good luck johnny waterever you get into
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 13:12
It'd be great to listen to him "off" air somewhere ... I bet he's got some great tales to tell Mischief
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Dec 12 13:18
starting with the truth of his warning off, Laugh

bless him
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 23 Dec 12 13:19
Too true. I'd rather listen to Francome than any other presenter/pundit/analyst on terrestrial tv.

I truly dread the new line up on Ch4 with Balding topping the list - accompanied by the abjectly poor Persaud.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 23 Dec 12 13:20
That was to FFF about listening to him off-air too.

I'd buy Francome a drink (non-alcoholic, as he doesn't imbibe) any time - I wouldn't pass a peanut to the monstrous Balding.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 23 Dec 12 13:39
Of all the racing pundits I would want to walk the plank John Francome would have been very low on the list, shame he has gone really when the likes of that odious Persad is still around.
By:
Glossy
When: 23 Dec 12 13:53
Sad news for televised racing. Definitely a big loss.
By:
posy
When: 23 Dec 12 13:55
The grinning idiot Persad is the direst of all the presenters...i'd be prepared to put up with Artie if it meant Persad would be off the tv screen.
By:
expat
When: 23 Dec 12 13:59
There is absolutely no competition between John and Rishi; it's a no-brainer. The only 'Doubles' that Rishi should get involved with are those ones in Trinidad; delicious as they are! His racing knowledge is limited, lacks experience.
I hope that we haven't seen the last of John on TV after this month.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Dec 12 14:03
typical forum shoite anyone retiring or dying suddenly becomes the oracle,any chance of putting up any threads from 12 months ago which tell of francomes legendary status as a pundit, thanks in advance, Wink
if it helps theres plenty about him on the moaning line thread describing him as a useless chucking idiot, LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
jonnyrotten
When: 23 Dec 12 15:31
it was worth having him on even if it was just for his line "and if your in ireland and you know how to use a phone"Laugh
By:
millhouse
When: 23 Dec 12 16:01
Never sold out, always called it as he saw it, never worried about what he might lose out on personally by actually telling the truth, never cared if his own view differed to the self serving sheep in the press room.

Compare that to the bookmaker owned, integrity-lite, truth evading career freeloaders who are largely following him, and the future is only going to offer us synchronised back-slapping, mendacity and commercially driven exploitation, imho...
By:
durose13
When: 23 Dec 12 16:09
sold out leger day with joey
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Dec 12 16:11
the way you lot talk you,d think he was the eamon dunmphy of the weighing room ,a part from a pot at dettori which was an open goal please give us a list of the people he,s knobbled in the last 27 years,shouldnt take long
By:
Ramruma
When: 23 Dec 12 19:54
Somewhere on Youtube might still be the video of an Irish Cheltenham preview where Francs got into a row with Ted Walsh and the other local racing worthies when discussing that year's Irish Good Thing, Dunguib -- "He can't jump!"

Of all jockeys turned pundits, only two were good judges, only two worth listening to, and we have somehow contrived to lose them both in this hamfisted change of broadcasters: Carson and Francome.
By:
Nightfly
When: 23 Dec 12 20:17
if you wanna listen to Franks..then i dread to think what your P and L is like...lazy punter who just got by on his one liners is not what you watch
an allegedly informative racing programme for.
By:
moonaxed
When: 23 Dec 12 20:19
PMSL FRANCOMBE AND CARSONTongue Out
By:
tonkability
When: 23 Dec 12 20:32
Didn't look very well on sat morn might have been rough night,can't say I like the bloke too much quite arrogant and far too quick to doff his cap with the hoy palloy
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