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By:
duncan idaho
When: 21 Dec 12 19:03
****= r a k e b a c k  Shocked
By:
duncan idaho
When: 21 Dec 12 19:09
latest on twitter is rumour that owner and jockey arrived in copter this afternoon Crazy
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 21 Dec 12 19:30
let's have the final profit figure for the charade when it's all added up....
By:
stewarts rise
When: 21 Dec 12 20:14
The Stewards held an enquiry to consider the apparent improvement in form of the winner, BROWN PETE (IRE), ridden by William Carson and trained by Violet M. Jordan, compared with its previous run at Wolverhampton on 23 November where the gelding finished eighth, beaten by 10 lengths. They interviewed the trainer’s representative who stated that the gelding had benefitted from a change in tactics from forcing the pace last time to being held up on this occasion. Having heard his evidence they forwarded his explanation to the British Horseracing Authority so that the previous performances of BROWN PETE (IRE) could be reviewed. They ordered BROWN PETE to be routine tested.

The Stewards held an enquiry into the reasons behind the five non-runners from Violet M. Jordan’s yard. They interviewed the trainer’s representative and the rider. The trainer’s representative stated that all their seven runners were booked in to travel with Nigel Hardy Transport. However, when informed that the lorry had broken down, they were reduced to one, 2-horse, box, and had to declare five horses as non-runners. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards referred the matter to the British Horseracing Authority for further investigation.
By:
onlooker
When: 21 Dec 12 20:18
Amazing how often these Horse-Boxes "break-down."
By:
VIRTUALFAN
When: 21 Dec 12 20:20
brilliant
By:
haplessamatuer
When: 21 Dec 12 20:24
They must of been reading this thread

started by duncan idaho WELL before the race off time


all pointed out including the non runner effect
By:
haplessamatuer
When: 21 Dec 12 20:27
The non runners theme bring back Gay Future memories
By:
richgit
When: 21 Dec 12 20:42
Only just read all this "Duncan"----brilliant detective work sir !------seasons greetings ----
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 21 Dec 12 20:45
hang on, it was held up a few runs back and finished legless!Laugh
By:
BornToWin
When: 21 Dec 12 20:48
Perhaps he had a busy morning Roger, they ain't machines ewe no! Plain
By:
turnip turns
When: 21 Dec 12 21:12
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51/affiliates-****/scammed-10k-steve-arnold-aka-****mypoker-my-carbon-poker-affiliate-1076831/
By:
onlooker
When: 21 Dec 12 21:31
^ Seceond time that LINK has been posted -

BUT - It does not work ... even replacing the **** with r ake
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What does it say, then?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 21 Dec 12 21:35
onlooker, if you google the company's name, the link is easily found.
By:
onlooker
When: 21 Dec 12 22:09
Thank you.
By:
NMR
When: 22 Dec 12 01:06
Anyone who didn't see this horse wouldn't win wasn't trying hard enough. I seldom confidently bet at Wolves but had confidence in this selection.
By:
NMR
When: 22 Dec 12 01:07
*would
By:
turnip turns
When: 22 Dec 12 18:43
I know it's a ridiculous question,but was this mentioned at all by the racing media yesterday or in todays press ?Tongue Out
By:
haplessamatuer
When: 22 Dec 12 23:01
turnip The nearest was Luke Harvey saying what "a lovely lady" the trainer ?? is
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Dec 12 10:21
Report about it in the RP today - with Arnold giving his version of events, and saying they won around £130K.
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 Dec 12 10:26
Thanks George,but does anyone ask him about the broken down lorries and the late jockey change ?Devil
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Dec 12 10:43
turnip turns, apparently the 7 horse box transporter broke down en route to Jordan's yard.

'Luckily' they have a 2 horse box at the yard and Arnold opted to send Daniel Thomas (because they were trying to make him the winningmost horse of the year) and Brown Pete.

Apparently Arnold thought Royal Intruder (funnily enough, another horse who had been blasting off in front in some of its runs when last seen)could beat Big Sylv, however, with the fav out and what then looked to be an "atrocious race", Arnold opted to send Brown Pete.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Dec 12 10:51
So seemingly Carson was on Royal Intruder cos apparently Arnold thought that was their best chance of beating the Big Sylv, but once the fav was out, they opted to go with Brown Pete and Carson switched.
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 Dec 12 10:55
Thanks a lot George,much appreciated ,a lot of coincidences there Crazy
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 10:56
No wonder punters are turning away from Horse Racing
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 10:59
Gay Future was the racehorse at the centre of an attempted coup by an Irish betting syndicate in Great Britain in 1974. The plot involved a Scottish trainer named Antony Collins.The horse was entered in a race at Cartmel in Cumbria.

On the same day, two additional horses trained by Collins were entered in earlier races at other courses, but these were withdrawn shortly before the races. Syndicate members had used bookmakers away from the courses to place a large number of double and triple wagers, which involved Gay Future in combination bets with these additional horses. The last-minute withdrawals now meant that a large number of bets would roll over onto Gay Future.

As the race start time approached, syndicate accomplices at Cartmel ensured that the long odds (10 to 1) on Gay Future were not lowered by on-course punters. Gay Future won easily, but bookmakers became suspicious at the unusual betting patterns. A follow-up police investigation resulted in syndicate leaders being convicted of attempted fraud, although they received relatively small fines from a sympathetic judge.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 23 Dec 12 10:59
Paddy Power said -

"The race would have cost us over "£100,000 and I imagine we were not the only ones done on it.
"The way things fell into place, and the other horses being taken out, it looks like one they could make a movie about."
By:
turnip turns
When: 23 Dec 12 11:08
"The way things fell into place" Mischief
By:
posy
When: 23 Dec 12 12:53
Franky....the Gay Future scam wasn't just the withdrawn horses; the clever aspect of the coup was that a very mediocre horse had previously run under the false name of Gay Future so when the real GF turned up at Cartmel apples were being compared with pears !
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 13:04
Posy ...

What was the name of the horse that was involved in a 2 year old race at a Northern Track ( Catterick possibly) ... Bolted up and it turned out to be a 3 year old ?


FFF
By:
posy
When: 23 Dec 12 13:29
Can't remember,might have been Good something or other.
This is an interesting article about a scam which i'd forgotten about

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Great+Racing+Scams%3A+In+The+Money+part+2+-+Guilty+of+ringer+fraud,+but...-a081549532
By:
posy
When: 23 Dec 12 14:07
Franky  are you thinking of Flockton Grey ?
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 14:18
Thats the one ... thanks






FFF
By:
Franky Four Fingers
When: 23 Dec 12 14:20
With thanks to Google and Mr Wikipedia


Flockton Grey was the British racehorse at the centre of one of the largest betting scandals to hit British horseracing, which remains the best-known case of a corrupt trainer and owner using a ringer to race in place of another horse. Because of the use of a ringer, Flockton Grey did not actually run in the race for which he became most famous.

Flockton Grey was an undistinguished gelding, by Dragonara Palace out of Misippus. Flockton Grey was entered into his first race for two-year-olds on March 29, 1982 at Leicester Racecourse. As a debutant from an unremarkable yard, the horse was priced at 10-1. The perpetrators of the scam, owner Ken Richardson and trainer Stephen Wiles, saw an opportunity to make a quick profit and backed their horse with £20,000, spreading their money around betting shops to avoid detection. They also arranged for a far better horse, Good Hand, formerly owned by Richardson, to run in place of Flockton Grey. As a three-year-old, Good Hand was far too strong for the competition, and romped home unchallenged, to win by 20 lengths.

The margin of victory caused immediate suspicion, and bookmakers refused to pay out. A police investigation followed. Official race photographs revealed the winner had teeth too developed to be a two-year-old's. Records of the course veterinarian disclosed that the winner had a conspicuous scar on its foreleg. Investigators traced Flockton Grey to one of Wiles' yards, determining his identity by blood tests, but found no scar. The deceit uncovered, Richardson was charged with conspiracy to defraud. In June 1984, he was convicted, fined £20,000 with £25,000 in costs, and given a suspended 9-month sentence. Following his conviction, the Jockey Club "warned off" Richardson for an unprecedented period of 25 years. Wiles received a similar ban from racing. Jockey Kevin Darley was exonerated of any knowledge of the switch, and it was noted that a rider with inside knowledge could easily have held his horse back, minimising the winning margin and preventing any suspicion.

Richardson would later resurface as the chairman of Bridlington Town Football Club and later the self-styled "benefactor" of Doncaster Rovers F.C.; Bridlington Town went bankrupt during his stewardship, with fans of the club accusing Richardson of gross financial mismanagement. Similar accusations were made during his tenure at Doncaster. The tumultuous period in the club's history only ended in 1999, when Richardson was convicted of attempted arson for his role in hiring three associates to burn down Doncaster's ground to collect insurance money. He was jailed for four years and ordered to pay £75,000 in costs.
By:
turnip turns
When: 25 Dec 12 17:12
Violet Jordan ‏@VioletJordanM6
Happy Xmas folks. Owners of Brown Pete got me a new horsebox for Christmas, very kind. Said they had come into money recently, not sure how.
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 25 Dec 12 17:39
^^ nice first tweet.
By:
corbiewood
When: 25 Dec 12 17:42
its a made up account
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 25 Dec 12 17:49
This is the real account Vi Jordan‏@ViJordanRacing
By:
turnip turns
When: 25 Dec 12 18:59
ffsAngry sorry about that,should've of check itWhoops
By:
Far From Trouble
When: 25 Dec 12 20:23
Mischief
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