Brown Pete 5.50

hmmm, not fav anymoore

i go very short odds daniel thomas is a late non runner later if this wins

FASHION IS A DONKEY FFS GET OFF THE TRACK U SELFISH C7NT

tight at the top now

Stick a pin up its arse!!

fook me, how long was that delay

Make ya sick wouldn't it.

Can do what they like on the aw

they've got all their money on earlier, born unlucky...inc. at double-figure odds this morning....they'll not still be punting it now

well done lads, thanks for the tip :)

lol lol lol lol

roffle

what a game this is

weighed in, weighed in

pure filth. They win when they want.

Hope they buy Nora a McFlurry, or something, on the way home.

Good call Duncan. The twisted fecks should be strung up!

weaver and harvey are so fing stupid honestly

news of a non-runner in the 18.50....

Game is as straight as an arrow

shocking

why couldnt anyone say the worlds lump on dead cert eh

'cos was busy laying it out of spite

feck me what chance have we got

The average Class 7 runners profile is

-hasn't run for three years
-sighted on CNN hauling the Chilean miners out of a hole, on a pulley
-entered 12 times, and withdrawn on day of race, from an Exning yard

unsighted last 7 races....

Dec 21, 2012 -- 6:03PM, Daryl Revok wrote:

The average Class 7 runners profile is-hasn't run for three years-sighted on CNN hauling the Chilean miners out of a hole, on a pulley-entered 12 times, and withdrawn on day of race, from an Exning yard

Pat Phelan said they might get a Christmas box out of The Wonga Coup. Guesty prefers to have a stone up his sleeve before he buys his selection boxes...

There will be some frantic missions for xmas money over the next few days. THEY all need to eat ffs.

Nice of Winston to get in the way of the rest as Brown Pete came by.

This yard has another couple of these up their sleeves based on recent runs.

it is great to hear the in depth analysis of this from weaver and harvey

mr guest is right up there with the best........

oh sorry harvey the utter cretin did say violet is a lovely lady

hard hitting analysis :)

on Oct 18 with Carson on board it was beaten just under 4l in a 0-60 off 59. today it was off 50. they have their speech ready then. wd all those who backed it, me ont included

AW racing is as rancid as it gets,and I backed the last winner.

Pure utter filth and so many should be locked up and fed bread and water

"Will Violet Jordan or whoever actually trains this horse please come to the weighing room?"

i reckon theyve won 6 figures there. What time was the jockey change declared?

no doubt roger

about 90 minutes ago i think

Roger, think it was about 40 mins before

the stewards can"t see any wrong doings ...mind you you can"t see a lot from the bar ffs   oi stewards fecking do your jobs ffs

That was truly revolting.

And what does the 'specialist' Horse Racing channel have to say about it?

Thanks for posting Duncan, after reading your thread I put a back in and won .03 on the race, less comm !   

Top bombing imo !   

halcyon, dont spend it all in the same shop, as my gramps used to say!

I'd say this was months in the planning. Barney Curley would have been proud of that. 16/1 early doors...

DI, clear best on time with me and would have backed it anyway but after your post had more on at 4 and then traded at 1.01 when I thought it might go over the stand rail. Nice one.

Upsetting news filtering through that connections missed the 16s 

i am running a collection for them duncan

when you no today is the day any price is a good price

nae bother Felt....well done

not that the stewards give a toss but could they answer this

the other horses were declared non runners at around about midday

as far as i am aware they travel from at most 90 minutes away

must have been very very very bad traffic!

cassette jammed in horsebox stereo, VIRTUAL....nothing could be done sadly

shame

was brown pete on the side car?

ffs weaver to **** scared to even give an opinion

Pete's been at the course since Tuesday...taking NO chances

well done violet

I don't like jumping on the pundits but what an absolute **** Harvey is

perhaps santa gave him a lift on his way round

Daryl Revok     21 Dec 12 17:41 

I fully expect Luke, and the Weaver Shark, to shed a little light on this, in a few minutes
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You should have left the 'a' - out, from you posting ... making

......" Luke, and the Weaver Shark, to shed little light on this,"

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51/affiliates-****/scammed-10k-steve-arnol...

****= r a k e b a c k 

latest on twitter is rumour that owner and jockey arrived in copter this afternoon

let's have the final profit figure for the charade when it's all added up....

The Stewards held an enquiry to consider the apparent improvement in form of the winner, BROWN PETE (IRE), ridden by William Carson and trained by Violet M. Jordan, compared with its previous run at Wolverhampton on 23 November where the gelding finished eighth, beaten by 10 lengths. They interviewed the trainer’s representative who stated that the gelding had benefitted from a change in tactics from forcing the pace last time to being held up on this occasion. Having heard his evidence they forwarded his explanation to the British Horseracing Authority so that the previous performances of BROWN PETE (IRE) could be reviewed. They ordered BROWN PETE to be routine tested.

The Stewards held an enquiry into the reasons behind the five non-runners from Violet M. Jordan’s yard. They interviewed the trainer’s representative and the rider. The trainer’s representative stated that all their seven runners were booked in to travel with Nigel Hardy Transport. However, when informed that the lorry had broken down, they were reduced to one, 2-horse, box, and had to declare five horses as non-runners. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards referred the matter to the British Horseracing Authority for further investigation.

Amazing how often these Horse-Boxes "break-down."

brilliant

They must of been reading this thread

started by duncan idaho WELL before the race off time


all pointed out including the non runner effect

The non runners theme bring back Gay Future memories

Only just read all this "Duncan"----brilliant detective work sir !------seasons greetings ----

hang on, it was held up a few runs back and finished legless!

Perhaps he had a busy morning Roger, they ain't machines ewe no!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51/affiliates-****/scammed-10k-steve-arnol...

^ Seceond time that LINK has been posted -

BUT - It does not work ... even replacing the **** with r ake
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What does it say, then?

onlooker, if you google the company's name, the link is easily found.

Thank you.

Anyone who didn't see this horse wouldn't win wasn't trying hard enough. I seldom confidently bet at Wolves but had confidence in this selection.

*would

I know it's a ridiculous question,but was this mentioned at all by the racing media yesterday or in todays press ?

turnip The nearest was Luke Harvey saying what "a lovely lady" the trainer ?? is

Report about it in the RP today - with Arnold giving his version of events, and saying they won around £130K.

Thanks George,but does anyone ask him about the broken down lorries and the late jockey change ?

turnip turns, apparently the 7 horse box transporter broke down en route to Jordan's yard.

'Luckily' they have a 2 horse box at the yard and Arnold opted to send Daniel Thomas (because they were trying to make him the winningmost horse of the year) and Brown Pete.

Apparently Arnold thought Royal Intruder (funnily enough, another horse who had been blasting off in front in some of its runs when last seen)could beat Big Sylv, however, with the fav out and what then looked to be an "atrocious race", Arnold opted to send Brown Pete.

So seemingly Carson was on Royal Intruder cos apparently Arnold thought that was their best chance of beating the Big Sylv, but once the fav was out, they opted to go with Brown Pete and Carson switched.

Thanks a lot George,much appreciated ,a lot of coincidences there

No wonder punters are turning away from Horse Racing

Gay Future was the racehorse at the centre of an attempted coup by an Irish betting syndicate in Great Britain in 1974. The plot involved a Scottish trainer named Antony Collins.The horse was entered in a race at Cartmel in Cumbria.

On the same day, two additional horses trained by Collins were entered in earlier races at other courses, but these were withdrawn shortly before the races. Syndicate members had used bookmakers away from the courses to place a large number of double and triple wagers, which involved Gay Future in combination bets with these additional horses. The last-minute withdrawals now meant that a large number of bets would roll over onto Gay Future.

As the race start time approached, syndicate accomplices at Cartmel ensured that the long odds (10 to 1) on Gay Future were not lowered by on-course punters. Gay Future won easily, but bookmakers became suspicious at the unusual betting patterns. A follow-up police investigation resulted in syndicate leaders being convicted of attempted fraud, although they received relatively small fines from a sympathetic judge.

Paddy Power said -

"The race would have cost us over "£100,000 and I imagine we were not the only ones done on it.
"The way things fell into place, and the other horses being taken out, it looks like one they could make a movie about."

"The way things fell into place"

Franky....the Gay Future scam wasn't just the withdrawn horses; the clever aspect of the coup was that a very mediocre horse had previously run under the false name of Gay Future so when the real GF turned up at Cartmel apples were being compared with pears !

Posy ...

What was the name of the horse that was involved in a 2 year old race at a Northern Track ( Catterick possibly) ... Bolted up and it turned out to be a 3 year old ?


FFF

Can't remember,might have been Good something or other.
This is an interesting article about a scam which i'd forgotten about

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Great+Racing+Scams%3A+In+The+Money+part+2+-+Guilty+of+ringer+fraud,+but...-a081549532

Franky  are you thinking of Flockton Grey ?

Thats the one ... thanks






FFF

With thanks to Google and Mr Wikipedia


Flockton Grey was the British racehorse at the centre of one of the largest betting scandals to hit British horseracing, which remains the best-known case of a corrupt trainer and owner using a ringer to race in place of another horse. Because of the use of a ringer, Flockton Grey did not actually run in the race for which he became most famous.

Flockton Grey was an undistinguished gelding, by Dragonara Palace out of Misippus. Flockton Grey was entered into his first race for two-year-olds on March 29, 1982 at Leicester Racecourse. As a debutant from an unremarkable yard, the horse was priced at 10-1. The perpetrators of the scam, owner Ken Richardson and trainer Stephen Wiles, saw an opportunity to make a quick profit and backed their horse with £20,000, spreading their money around betting shops to avoid detection. They also arranged for a far better horse, Good Hand, formerly owned by Richardson, to run in place of Flockton Grey. As a three-year-old, Good Hand was far too strong for the competition, and romped home unchallenged, to win by 20 lengths.

The margin of victory caused immediate suspicion, and bookmakers refused to pay out. A police investigation followed. Official race photographs revealed the winner had teeth too developed to be a two-year-old's. Records of the course veterinarian disclosed that the winner had a conspicuous scar on its foreleg. Investigators traced Flockton Grey to one of Wiles' yards, determining his identity by blood tests, but found no scar. The deceit uncovered, Richardson was charged with conspiracy to defraud. In June 1984, he was convicted, fined £20,000 with £25,000 in costs, and given a suspended 9-month sentence. Following his conviction, the Jockey Club "warned off" Richardson for an unprecedented period of 25 years. Wiles received a similar ban from racing. Jockey Kevin Darley was exonerated of any knowledge of the switch, and it was noted that a rider with inside knowledge could easily have held his horse back, minimising the winning margin and preventing any suspicion.

Richardson would later resurface as the chairman of Bridlington Town Football Club and later the self-styled "benefactor" of Doncaster Rovers F.C.; Bridlington Town went bankrupt during his stewardship, with fans of the club accusing Richardson of gross financial mismanagement. Similar accusations were made during his tenure at Doncaster. The tumultuous period in the club's history only ended in 1999, when Richardson was convicted of attempted arson for his role in hiring three associates to burn down Doncaster's ground to collect insurance money. He was jailed for four years and ordered to pay £75,000 in costs.

Violet Jordan ‏@VioletJordanM6
Happy Xmas folks. Owners of Brown Pete got me a new horsebox for Christmas, very kind. Said they had come into money recently, not sure how.

^^ nice first tweet.

its a made up account

This is the real account Vi Jordan‏@ViJordanRacing

ffs sorry about that,should've of check it

i know fft