Barry Dennis 1/6 odds on the first two today

I'm so upset cant sleep tonite

Hardy why dont you next time offer to run book on dodgy ew races at folky ,with your money , im sure we would be enlightened how clever you are.

Nov 20, 2012 -- 6:17PM, barry dennis wrote:

why didn't you mention it to me, answer, you aint got the balls. I dont intend betting overbroke on place markets,did you also notice I was offering 200/1 horses returned 100

why would he need b alls to approach u ?

and what price were your 200 to 1 rags on here,you big brave hard man,you,ve become the laughing stock of bookmakers,

hardyisbetterthanistabraq = sorry what is his name

25/1 a place

if you dont like the e.w term  go and have a lay out for some pitches and show us all how to do it prperly.

Not easy being a bookie you know. I used to make books and take bets in the 80`s from a large workforce. I took advantage where possible. One mans 8/1 is anothers 6/1

cant be that hard at chelts a few years back barry had him,his mrs,3 on the machines and half the parish of romford running round the ring for him,and they say ex,s are killing the game,

how come posts on this thread keep been taken down ?

Answering your question,unless the law has been changed(may well have been with the gambling act)if Barry owned Folkestone he wouldn't be allowed by law to bet there.
An owner of a track can not operate at that track as a Bookmaker.As i say that was the law but it may have changed with the latest gambling act.

ALLPOINTS,HOW THEN ARE CHESTERBET AND BANGOR BET ALLOWED??OR ARE THEY CLASSED AS COMMISSION AGENTS??

Nov 20, 2012 -- 6:17PM, barry dennis wrote:


    why didn't you mention it to me, answer, you aint got the balls. I dont intend betting overbroke on place markets,did you also notice I was offering 200/1 horses returned 100


why would he need b alls to approach u ?

allpoints there are no rules anymore, people do as they please nobody does anything we all have a moan,even the umberrella rule with 3rd party names on it is not policed,its a free for all pal,sad but true.

Barry is right,

Rather than hiding behind a user name on here, and having the opportunity to approach Barry to mention the point of view, bringing it up on here is the `ball - less` approach.

Someone on here, I forget who it was asked for 1800/300 with Dennis. He got cut in half because he couldn't get rid of it on here.

I saw Tom Jenkins, The Viking, he of The John Power Organisation lay a dog to lose 50 grand at Wembley one night and he kept the price up. Only the oldtimers will remember John Power.

What are the Jenkins brothers doing now Slippy?

Gone are the days of the fearless books.

not driving taxi's as well are they. that's where most of these big hitters seem to end up

Tom went to Italy I think A.G. to pen shops but stand tobe corrected. I don't know what happened to John to be honest with you.
Hackney races on a Saturday morning with The Viking in full flow was a sight to behold.

Imagine that influence now though thinking about it, Hackney on a Saturday morning was such an institution in the shops. 8 races and Greyform.
The car park used to be full of London taxis, Pearl served the breakfasts and if a bit of her **** ash landed on the beans you didn't complain, that was just the way it was.

A dog called Tea Ration at 7/1 hit the lids, The Viking boomed "turn left" It held on.

You can't say f ag on here? Very strange censorship.

see tom in romford betting shop last week doing betfair swearing he cant get on

One thing these bookies threads teach us how small time the bookies have got,Adge on a different thread stated he stood a favourite for more than usual 1140 that seemed to me a tiny amount,another bookmaker Regit came on saying he laid a bet of 1100 to 400 and tried to have 300 back on here,the old Irish saying that the lady in the cloakroom at the Curragh would lay a bigger bet than them English lads.

you dont want to go to a dog track in ireland they bet 180per cent most times 200percent

you dont want to go to a dog track in ireland they bet 180per cent most times 200percent

True as one Irish poster memorably put it evens is the second favourite at Limerick dogs.

Spoke to a bookie in Ireland he said in a broad accent we open 2each of2 tree each of tree then we put the fav in made me chuckle

Apart from Baz not being able to afford to buy Folkestone,he is at least honest in ripping off racegoers.

said u need b alls to approach him??????what does he mean ?

3 ways to get rid of Baz,ask him for a bet he cant lay off on here,give him a bag of greasy chips,grass him up to his missus that he is still eating said chips.nap

he must think that people are scared of a telly tubby with yellow teeth

A young Al Down ilwab?

mike catt during his college days!

Fraudy during his teaching days............fooking uncanny.

http://www.thejuniorchoralcourse.co.uk/?projects=about-martyn-ford

The skill level on course bookmakers operate from is pretty low imo. At the bigger meetings BF layers more often than not are
trying to make money with only 1 to 2% in their favour, whilst the on course bookies appear to only be able to operate on %'s
a lot higher than that. Sure they need to cover expenses but the BF prices expose the poor value they offer.
If I was that way inclined I would have no problem running a book along side the on course bookies at the bigger meeting's
due to the competition being so weak (unlike BF). At the poorer meetings were the game is often far from straight I wouldn't
take on the on course bookies as they'd probably be operating from a higher skill level in a far from straight forward situation.

said u need b alls to approach him??????what does he mean ?Laugh

Barry Dennis a bookie were would you put him in these three
Stephen little ..coursing
The Viking .....greyhounds
John Banks .... horses

bookie my backside

On the soles of their respective shoes...!

why is it ripping off the punters to decide not to bet overbroke someone on an earlier thread today tipped the mumper each way . it was 16/1 to win on here but the place was odds on , does anybody realisticly think that they would expect to get on at 16/5 a place . instead of moaning at  not being allowed to rip off bookies knockers would be better employed using their brains to spot achievable value and not each way gifts .

Nobody is being forced to bet with Barry, would anybody here bet overbroke!

Zipper I used to see Stephen Little at the coursing meetings often, lovely bloke and a proper bookmaker.

1/6 , COME RACING , COME RACING

Nov 22, 2012 -- 3:53PM, hello :-) wrote:

1/6 , COME RACING , COME RACING

Stephen little is a betfair arber these days, being billy big balls isnt all its cracked up to be, anybody whose been billy big balls in the betting ring ends up billy no balls at the end of it.

if it  was 1/6 the mumper today at even 12/1 on course it was manna from heaven compared to the evens a place on here . surely even thickos can see that .

do many on course bookies take place only bets these days then.

Just have 2 on the nose these days when i am on course unless i have a firm opinion.No e/w value about generally.

barrowboy some do , adge for one but what is your point

How many races have over broke place terms ? One or two a week maybe.  119% win and 90.8% place book must still pay over the season, with a few each way steals winning now and again. Suspect a very large percentage are won by the long odds on shots.

Jesus, thats the most ill informed post on here for years.

point is if you cant bet place only on course,& you only fancy a horse to get in frame not win, then being able to back 12/1,16/1 whatever at 1/5,1/6 is not value over the exchanges.

i rest my case

so if you fancied the mumper to place today but not particularly to win  you say you are better off backing it place only on here at evens than back it on course each way at 1/6 the odds and i am told it was available to money at 10/1 on course . are you for real or taking the mickey.

I thought you had rested your case...?

i asked if you could back place only on course,if you can then great.in your opinion was the mumper a special case.

2 totally different bets  , but

£1 e/w at 10/1 1/5 the odds , if it only places reutrns £3 for a £2 outlay
£2 place only bet on here at evens returns £4 if it only places

but of course if it wins you will feel gutted ,

just saying

think hes rested his case again.

just got back from market rasen. yes i offered place only on this race and the mumper was always priced at 10/1 [ actually bet to an average of 85% on the places.] of course i was 1/5th odds.
so place only with me was 2/1 against that pitiful evens on here
i expect i was saved by the fact that business in general with a poor card was dreadful

where harry2.1 and his arguement breaks down by saying there are only a few of these races each week is that when these races do occur our turnover jumps dramatically on what we take on races with good place percentages

2/1 for place only , wow that's good adage
how much would you lay that to lose ?

KEITH,WHY NO SHOW AT THE BONDAGE CLUB ON MONDAY,I REST MY CASE AS WELL??????

rcing.
the sign on my board says liability up to 5k
if you are one of my many regular punters anything up to that but if you are an unknown one off arber very little

he doesn't like being tied down on anything , truth

i have never arbed in my life adage , but i know value when i see it.
would i have to be a long term loser to be able to have a few hundred on at 2/1 ?

since taking out my permit in 1972 not one single punter has ever been banned or even restricted from betting whatever they like with me.
i'm always amused reading those other threads

nice to hear that adage .
thank you for the reply

hello donit

this bit about been overbroke many other books seem to manage to bet to a 1/5th when others are only 1/6th,ok i realise the 1/5th books are only 100/1 when the 1/6th go 125/1 and are only 25/1 when the 1/6th are 30/1 but many books will just get on with it with around 95 in the place book,knowing soon we will have 125 plus in the 7 runner race.punters do notice whats going on more than some books realise one day there will be none left.

WISE WORDS AGAIN JIM

He needs to sort his hamppstead out, I don't trust people with rotten teeth.

Must agree with you there jimnast about there being none left.
Punters do notice.As you say when all the on-course punters have gone (to the on-course betting office,or the dreaded tote)
where they can get 1/4 odds ew.first 4 in 16 runner handicaps.etc etc.where will the on-course bookmakers go?Wont be any point in them going to the Track cos they will be betting to nobody,or at best a few £2 punters.The man that killed the golden goose looks a genius compared to some course bookies.

THETRUTHHURTS.... Keith will be along later... He's just tied up at the moment.

very good ringlets about the golden goose,you could not make it up what we are doing to ourselfs.we even have racecourse bookmakers going 1/5th 1st 2 on 8 runner races now.


what a f....n carry on

Thats one of the reasons I packed the game in.

ringlets

there doesnt seem a lot of pride left.

Spoke to one well known book,seen on TV as often as he can get his face on,about the snide each way and his comment was F*** the punters or words to that effect.Its OK when there are punters to shaft,but when they have all gone who is he gonna shaft?...himself?

Must be the same one who drools and leers at the Royal Ascot meeting ringlets?

adge
the sign on my board says liability up to 5k
if you are one of my many regular punters anything up to that but if you are an unknown one off arber very little

since taking out my permit in 1972 not one single punter has ever been banned or even restricted from betting whatever they like with me.
i'm always amused reading those other threads

well done thats shut em up

A sign saying liability up to £100k is like a verbal contract........ie not worth the paper it is written on btw.

Im onside with adge btw.

Adge is a Gentleman who lays almost every bet he is asked for.
Yes you can be on place only with him,and to a fair sized amount

I was thinking more of a miserable,dieting, ugly disgrace ringlets,adge doesnt fit that profile.

Who lives in a profile like that?

a telly tubby with yellow teeth

Just to clear something up GTM The bookie I first referred to was not a certain Mr Dennis.

Nov 23, 2012 -- 1:50AM, ringlets wrote:

Just to clear something up GTM The bookie I first referred to was not a certain Mr Dennis.

obviously

Ringlets..........he doesnt have a twin that im aware of..........I was on about Skinto btw.












































Only joking Paul.