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By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 19:15
"I got a different something for the nothing I risked shock horror."

Surely a candidate for homefortea's Panorama Special.

Can we have a moneysavingexpert.com forum, please?
By:
halcyon days
When: 18 Sep 12 19:30
^ just follow my advices unitedbiscuits, honest, no crumbs !
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 19:35
tis funny how the same old faces turn up having a go, corriewood, arsebiscuit, lazarus bookies bitches the lot of em...

soon squeal rape if someone tries to understake a pp or tries the old pencil trick
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 19:54
Do they, Fat Dodgy? How often do you try to understake or otherwise deceive the poor staff in shops? Is that what you do all day, like a ****?
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 20:47
rofl ya fecking fanny dont like it when its your £20 being nicked do ya, but when its 1000s of mug punters thats alright reap wot ya sow bitch
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 20:55
Don't worry about my £20, thanks. Do you go round the shops understaking bets, Fat Dodgy?
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 20:59
i get along very well with my bookeeper WILLIAM HILLS are a much better bet imo.

must really hurt laddies they will probably have to give all that cash back hills upstage em and get to keep the wonga....hahahahahah
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 21:10
Yes, William Hill got the jump last week-end. And they kept the money from all the arbers,

Sweet.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 21:13
u obviously failed bookie school
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 21:17
No, the ones who failed bookie school are all the bitter ingrates on this thread.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 21:20
so hills give em even money on a 2/5 shot how the hell did they keep the arbers from making cash?
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 21:25
There's no doubt that you, Fat Dodgy, crawled off to lay off your £10 liability on Camelot once you had got your bet on in William Hill - I can't imagine you doing anything else.

But it warms me to think that William Hill kept your money.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 21:32
did they though, maybe they layed half their liability off on here and i picked some of it up...
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 21:35
I can't speak for what they did, I can only speak for you, Fat Dodgy.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 22:01
what i did is common knowledge cos i give my opinion to anyone that will listen before a race, but i am still waiting on how giving even money on a 2/5v shot stopped the arbers from you?
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 18 Sep 12 22:13
You went in to William Hill and had £25 @ evs Camelot, then you laid off c £40 @ 1.5 on betfair.

I'm glad William Hill won your (and 1,000 others who did the same) money, because they took that stance when they could just have laid Camelot on the exchange (what, you think Wm Hill can't access the exchenge?) so I'm glad their bravery was rewarded.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 18 Sep 12 22:33
i already sayed they could an i already sayed it quite possible i loaded up on that but u decided to ignore that or u were too thick to understand

but i will do it again seeing as a goldfish would give u a run for yer pennies in the memory department


Fat Dodgy 18 Sep 12 21:32 Joined: 12 Dec 06 | Topic/replies: 15,286 | Blogger: Fat Dodgy's blog
did they though, maybe they layed half their liability off on here and i picked some of it up...





now bye bye little bookies bitch, rum along and i am sure daddy has a big bone for u to play with
By:
lsparry1
When: 19 Sep 12 20:33
On Chanel 4's morning line on Saturday your David Williams gave details of a 'promotion of the century'- bet up to £20 on Camelot to win the St Leger today - and if he loses 'we'll give you your money back.' His actual words were "we want everybody - all morning line viewers to participate... it is the greatest most historic no lose bet...back Camelot at 2/5 ...if he loses were giving your money back for (up to) £20 for every single punter..you don't even have to think about it theres no reason not to back Camelot..that is what we're doing"
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> I reacted by placing an online bet of £20 to win - my wife placed a bet in shop for £20
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> I have checked my account - and you have now offered a free bet. You will be well aware that this is not the same as my money back- and i want my money back- as advertised. Please note this matter has already been reported to the ASA whose rules state -5.1.3 Advertising must not omit, hide or provide in an unclear, unintelligible, ambiguous or untimely manner material information if that omission or presentation is likely to affect consumers' decisions about whether and how to buy the advertised product, unless the information is obvious from the context. If the advertisement is limited by time or space, the ASA will take into account steps that the advertiser has taken to make that information available to consumers by other means
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> You need to honour the promise of your spokesperson- David Williams- or I will proceed with taking this matter further.
> I suggest you refer this to your marketing department without delay.
>
> Leigh Parry
By:
lsparry1
When: 19 Sep 12 20:34
Dear Mr Parry,

Thank you for your e-mail regarding our recent Camelot (St.Leger) offer.

We understand that it may have been perceived from our representative's announcement on Channel 4's Morning Line, that the offer was for a cash refund as opposed to a free bet token. Our terms and conditions, as displayed on our website and promotional literature, stated that the refunds would be in the form of a free bet token up to the value of £20 for all bets placed via the internet, telephone, WAP and Odds On customers in our shops. Please refer to the link below for full terms and conditions:

http://www.ladbrokes.com/stleger/

We sincerely apologise for any miscommunication that has taken place, as we appreciate that this may have resulted in a disappointing betting experience with Ladbrokes. I can assure you that this was not our intention, as we genuinely believed this was an exciting offer.
We can confirm, however, that we will be adhering to our terms and conditions of the offer. Customers who qualified for this promotion will have received a free bet credited to their online accounts already; and for those customers that are members of our Odds On loyalty scheme that took advantage of the offer, the reward was credited to their Odds On points balance by noon on the 18th September 2012.

Once again please accept our sincerest apologies for any misunderstanding and we hope this now clarifies the situation.


Yours sincerely,

Sarah

Ladbrokes Customer Services
By:
halcyon days
When: 19 Sep 12 20:41
Perry Mason time imo.
By:
Davy Jones
When: 19 Sep 12 20:52
Has anyone phoned Watchdog?
By:
scaredmoney
When: 19 Sep 12 21:22
Once again please accept our sincerest apologies for any misunderstanding and we hope this now clarifies the situation.

Do blatant lies and deceit now constitute a "misunderstanding" ?
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 19 Sep 12 21:29
what if u stuck it on in a shop or was that not the promo?
By:
insideinfo
When: 19 Sep 12 22:27
Hi Fat Dodgy!

I see the clown that is unitedbiscuits is trying the same old trick on you that he did on me recently ie alluding that he somehow knows the bets you placed and also what you lay on Betfair trying to give the impression that he maybe has an "in" somewhere.Let me assure you that he is talking pure b0ll1X and that anything he says is pure guesswork.He actually tried telling me a list of shops that he "knew" i had visited one particular morning and what bets i had placed while i was there LMFAO.The guy is clearly off his rocker and although i detest him i also have a tinge of sympathy for him as those who feel the need to make up stories usually have a big void in their lonely little lives.
By:
GandalfTheGrey
When: 19 Sep 12 22:36
Insideinfo, Unitedbiscuits replied to a thread where the poster was looking to speak to a laddies shop manager, UB replied, so assuming he was not in his fantasy world, I would ring Laddies and also inform Betfair, that one of their "managers" is making remarks about your alleged betting patterns, see how long he lasts if he is a "manager" also would ensure a nice payout for you when you sue his ass.
By:
Swardean
When: 19 Sep 12 23:23
UnitedBiscuits I DON'T believe you work for a bookmakers and although an bookie apologist I quite enjoy your Devils Advocate approach to debate on here which is very often very biased to the punters views. 

However, sometimes it is time to concede an argument and accept that Mr Williams has made a serious error. You cannot have it both ways, free publicity without obligation of the claims made.  Ladbrokes should take it on the chin and pay up.  Hills made a great offer, came out on top and fair play to them, but they would have paid up if Camelot had won.  This Ladbrokes skerming is plain embarrassing. 

As for the statements that people taking the Hills offer are arbers, this is again rubbish.  Even though I (and many others) on the deal lost, do you really think the majority of punters sold the value they had derived to 'steal' a few quid?  I dont think so.
By:
ichamaeleo
When: 20 Sep 12 00:40
sod the refunds, take your free bets and demand the sack for that slimy piece of **** williams for his ineptitude
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 20 Sep 12 12:25
Swardean - A long time ago, for Betfair, there was a direct channel from moneysavingexpert.com to a market on this exchange that looked like it guaranteed a profit backing the field (top batsman, memory serves) and a lot of newcomers went big red when an unquoted player was introduced. In their generosity, Betfair, compensated all the losers; and that faction has always since had a vocal presence on this forum. I'm not saying that the majority arbed the Camelot offer. Some did.

  The complainants are basically up in arms because the something for nothing they grabbed turned out to be different from the something for nothing they expected. It's an unedifying spectacle. Poor Mr Williams seems to be a bumbler,
but you'd think he was wanted for war crimes.
As for the guy hoping to get me sacked - good luck with that initiative. The only thing I'm afraid of is people thinking I'm on the same side as these bitter ingrates.
By:
Fat Dodgy
When: 20 Sep 12 12:27
ingrate sfo rfecking what the horse lost and they didnt get wot they were told u utter 5th columnist
By:
elise
When: 20 Sep 12 12:37
united, sometimes  i'd agree with you that they are moaning for the sake of it, or it is sour grapes from arbers etc

persoanlly i think williams was in the wrong, wouldn't be surprised if he just took the headline message and ran in front of a camera without proper checks

however, for the typical audience of that show which is a saturday punter, maybe small bets once per week he sold them a story and to be fair it needs to be apologised for

i think (and hope) laddies would do it off their own back, mistake or not, we'll wait and see what happens saturday
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 12:42
unitedbiscuits,


good morning. High profile campaign, David Williams **** up ! As I see it Laddies have two choices;


a) Do the honourable thing, and pay out, as per David Williams promotion on the M L !


b) Demote/ dispence with D Ws services as head of their P R dept; !
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 12:42
* c o c k s
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 12:42
dispense ? *
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 12:44
.. but perhaps option ''b'' would be an admission of guilt  !
By:
elise
When: 20 Sep 12 12:47
not sure they should be sacking him for that, just think they should address the way it was promoted and clarify how they will do it in future

it wasn't a bad offer for your average saturday punter, good for gaining loyalty, but the majority of people on here would abuse it if able to, we all know that

for me it was just the way it was sold to the viewers
By:
Outpost
When: 20 Sep 12 12:52
think both options would be an admission of guilt.
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 12:58
Yes Outpost indeed. But a) is honourable and just.
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 13:01
elise,


good morning. Surely the ''face'' of L adbrokes should understanf his compamys offer on their biggest sponsorship day of the year !


After all, he is paid tens of thousands of pounds a year to do just that !
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Sep 12 13:03
And Outpost, tbf Puddy Power have a history of doing the ''honest'' thing by their customers.
By:
Davy Jones
When: 20 Sep 12 13:06
Where is Clive82?
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