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bilbobaggins
21 Aug 12 14:39
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We're back to this again - pics disappear at the crucial point of the race with 2 furlongs to go. Some crook is cleaning up here. Sort this out Betfair.
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Report Wesdag August 21, 2012 2:39 PM BST
Yep, just at it was getting interesting - as usual.
Report Wesdag August 21, 2012 2:40 PM BST
*as
Report gerard August 21, 2012 2:41 PM BST
And here.
Report crackle August 21, 2012 2:42 PM BST
This can't just be coincidence. Always at the most crucial part of the race - and no explanation!
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 2:43 PM BST
We need an explanation Betfair and it needs to stop happening.
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 2:43 PM BST
'Some crook'


exactly bilbo but who is it and why would betfair stand for this obvious skulduggery for so long ?

do they realise how it makes them look ?

unless ............
Report Wesdag August 21, 2012 2:44 PM BST
Those with the home SIS package need to get some sort of benefit so they are provided with several opportunities a day where the pictures for everyone else disapears, in my opinion.
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 2:54 PM BST
We usually get some service announcement when LV goes wrong but we NEVER get one when the pictures disappear mid race - makes you think. Where are you Betfair?
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 2:57 PM BST
I'm here bilbo.... Getting it looked at. Service announcement to follow.
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 3:08 PM BST
AND AGAIN



it's absolutely bent BCM2
Report crackle August 21, 2012 3:08 PM BST
Now that my friends is taking the p**s!
Report loper August 21, 2012 3:09 PM BST
I should be allowed to sue the phuucking pic providers for my losses, ffs!
Report colonel mossy August 21, 2012 3:10 PM BST
same thing again at the business end of the race at Yarmouth. It happening once OK **** happens but for it to happen again smacks of something dodgy going on.
Report Amanda Hugnkiss August 21, 2012 3:10 PM BST
It's not even subtle.

Bent.
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 3:10 PM BST
This is getting ridiculous (exactly the same in THAT Yarmouth race) - good to hear from you BCM2 - but this has only started happening since you have been away. It has happened probably 50 or 60 times , and almost entirely with 2 furlongs to go - that is why we are getting paranoid that this is in some way bent.
Report Wesdag August 21, 2012 3:12 PM BST
The pictures just always randomly disappear with about 2 to 3 furlongs to go. Strange that.
Report colonel mossy August 21, 2012 3:13 PM BST
It is not exclusively a betfair problem as it happened on the bet365 stream. It's some dodgy **** who works for the company who supplies the picture. I backed the winner in the last at Yarmouth but would actually like to se the f..king horse win. I don't back in running so don't know anything about that.
Report thirty-three August 21, 2012 3:13 PM BST
It's a fecking disgrace and not an accident or a "technical issue".
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 3:13 PM BST
bilbo - it starts when I am away....I stress, I was on holiday and not filming races or punting on track. Seriously, I saw that one here. Incredible. Wish I had an answer to it. It was the same on other sites too. I am going to send an email and see if I can get an answer or explanation myself, directly.
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 3:14 PM BST
none of the shenanigans that have gone on with live video have been subtle

it's obviously being tampered with and i have said so for ages

and still it goes on ...

and on...
Report thirty-three August 21, 2012 3:15 PM BST
Exactly right Clouded leopard!
Report Nashwon August 21, 2012 3:16 PM BST
Hi BCM2

Last 2 furlongs AGAIN for me at Yarmouth. I have had this at least 30 times so coincidence is a most UNLIKELY explanation. Start with the most likely reason ie fraudulent activity. Betfair should be seen to treat this as not just a annoying technical issue but as a potentially criminal issue.
Report Rollo Tomasi August 21, 2012 3:17 PM BST
Amazing scenes. When video packed in I switched to ATR and was still able to lay Blue Dune.

Where were they all?
Report colonel mossy August 21, 2012 3:21 PM BST
It will get brushed under the carpet like everything seems to the do in the UK. The company who supply the pictures must be Yodel in disguise.
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 3:23 PM BST
All I can tell you is that we asked our integrity department to look at instances where this happened (ie pictures dropped out near the finish). They found nothing to suggest there was manipulation of the markets or things being swept. That'll be done again after this. I'm not trying to defend or palm it off - as regular posters will know, I just to try to inform where I can.
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 3:26 PM BST
BCM2

I asked my integrity dept to take a look aswell (that's me btw) and i can confirm that my p + l is being manipulated by the loss of pictures.

In some cases it's downright dangerous for me.

Not playing yarmouth again today thats for sure
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 3:27 PM BST
clouded - I understand. Hopefully you appreciate I am just trying to tell you as much as I know, rather than be accused (not by you!) of ignoring it.
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 3:31 PM BST
of course we appreciate it BCM2

but for all your concern and investigation.. nothing has changed mate
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 3:32 PM BST
I know. Makes me a look a bit of a ..............
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 3:41 PM BST
it doesn't

don't think that


it just seems that someone wields more power unfortunately
Report Nashwon August 21, 2012 3:45 PM BST
Hi BCM2

Thanks for your recent messages!

Just a thought..for workaday UK racing when is the highest number of bets placed in running? (Number of bets not stake amount). 

Cheers
Nash
Report Betfair Community Manager 2 August 21, 2012 3:50 PM BST
Nash - that really varies. Depends on how many races, type of race, number of meetings, strength of the field etc etc. There isn't really a discernible pattern.
Report Nashwon August 21, 2012 3:55 PM BST
Hi BCM2

Ok thanks I was just grasping at straws.

Looks like there is a more obvious answer now that your suppliers have reported that they had an 'severance' of service for Yarmouth.

Cheers
Nash
Report loper August 21, 2012 4:09 PM BST
It happened again!Cry
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 4:11 PM BST
ok here loper  Confused
Report loper August 21, 2012 4:14 PM BST
Mine cut out as soon as the gates opened then came back with 3 to run.

Cant have been me alone, it had all the classic symptoms of earlier breaks in transmission.
Report Rollo Tomasi August 21, 2012 4:20 PM BST
lamott,
So I need to pray for more blank live video screens?
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 5:00 PM BST
lost pics worcester

crucial stage
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 5:05 PM BST
Yep - happened again.
Report nuthouse August 21, 2012 5:10 PM BST
each and every day lol
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 5:10 PM BST
And a bloody again - Yarmouth. What is wrong with these people that they can't provide an answe r you, their customers. I certainly think you should not pay for any race in which this happens.
Report colonel mossy August 21, 2012 5:11 PM BST
They are taking the piss.it's like they were waiting for the commentator to say they are off and then blank the screen. Shockingly awful service.
Report bilbobaggins August 21, 2012 5:13 PM BST
It NEVER happens in the paddock or while they are walking around behind the stalls. Coincidence ? - like hell.
Report nuthouse August 21, 2012 5:14 PM BST
must be a link from the monkey pressing the in running button and the live feed
Report loper August 21, 2012 5:15 PM BST
This seems to be a server prob as I had no probs at Worc or Yarmouth this time.
Report colonel mossy August 21, 2012 5:15 PM BST
That last race was done on purpose at Yarmouth. It's almost as if the perpetrator is reading this thread. Right at the exact moment they the leave the stall. Yeah what ever!!!
Report flyingkipper August 21, 2012 5:30 PM BST
Yarmouth cut out on me too ... hope you enjoyed your break BMC2 ... back to the mad house now!
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 6:55 PM BST
at it again
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 7:49 PM BST
750 worcester got that feel about it

cuts out 3 from home i'll wager
Report clouded leopard August 21, 2012 7:59 PM BST
no interruption

but it paused and became same speed as atr


refresh




that happens more often than is mentioned aswell
Report racingstar August 21, 2012 9:57 PM BST
Losers always need to blame somebody else.
Who (other than an escaped lunatic) wants to play on SIS Flat racing off a BF Feed?
Report clouded leopard August 22, 2012 10:06 AM BST
don't be a **** mate
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