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bilbobaggins
21 Aug 12 14:39
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We're back to this again - pics disappear at the crucial point of the race with 2 furlongs to go. Some crook is cleaning up here. Sort this out Betfair.

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By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 12 14:39
Yep, just at it was getting interesting - as usual.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 12 14:40
*as
By:
gerard
When: 21 Aug 12 14:41
And here.
By:
crackle
When: 21 Aug 12 14:42
This can't just be coincidence. Always at the most crucial part of the race - and no explanation!
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 21 Aug 12 14:43
We need an explanation Betfair and it needs to stop happening.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 14:43
'Some crook'


exactly bilbo but who is it and why would betfair stand for this obvious skulduggery for so long ?

do they realise how it makes them look ?

unless ............
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 12 14:44
Those with the home SIS package need to get some sort of benefit so they are provided with several opportunities a day where the pictures for everyone else disapears, in my opinion.
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 21 Aug 12 14:54
We usually get some service announcement when LV goes wrong but we NEVER get one when the pictures disappear mid race - makes you think. Where are you Betfair?
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 14:57
I'm here bilbo.... Getting it looked at. Service announcement to follow.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 15:08
AND AGAIN



it's absolutely bent BCM2
By:
crackle
When: 21 Aug 12 15:08
Now that my friends is taking the p**s!
By:
loper
When: 21 Aug 12 15:09
I should be allowed to sue the phuucking pic providers for my losses, ffs!
By:
colonel mossy
When: 21 Aug 12 15:10
same thing again at the business end of the race at Yarmouth. It happening once OK **** happens but for it to happen again smacks of something dodgy going on.
By:
Amanda Hugnkiss
When: 21 Aug 12 15:10
It's not even subtle.

Bent.
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 21 Aug 12 15:10
This is getting ridiculous (exactly the same in THAT Yarmouth race) - good to hear from you BCM2 - but this has only started happening since you have been away. It has happened probably 50 or 60 times , and almost entirely with 2 furlongs to go - that is why we are getting paranoid that this is in some way bent.
By:
Wesdag
When: 21 Aug 12 15:12
The pictures just always randomly disappear with about 2 to 3 furlongs to go. Strange that.
By:
colonel mossy
When: 21 Aug 12 15:13
It is not exclusively a betfair problem as it happened on the bet365 stream. It's some dodgy **** who works for the company who supplies the picture. I backed the winner in the last at Yarmouth but would actually like to se the f..king horse win. I don't back in running so don't know anything about that.
By:
thirty-three
When: 21 Aug 12 15:13
It's a fecking disgrace and not an accident or a "technical issue".
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 15:13
bilbo - it starts when I am away....I stress, I was on holiday and not filming races or punting on track. Seriously, I saw that one here. Incredible. Wish I had an answer to it. It was the same on other sites too. I am going to send an email and see if I can get an answer or explanation myself, directly.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 15:14
none of the shenanigans that have gone on with live video have been subtle

it's obviously being tampered with and i have said so for ages

and still it goes on ...

and on...
By:
thirty-three
When: 21 Aug 12 15:15
Exactly right Clouded leopard!
By:
Nashwon
When: 21 Aug 12 15:16
Hi BCM2

Last 2 furlongs AGAIN for me at Yarmouth. I have had this at least 30 times so coincidence is a most UNLIKELY explanation. Start with the most likely reason ie fraudulent activity. Betfair should be seen to treat this as not just a annoying technical issue but as a potentially criminal issue.
By:
Rollo Tomasi
When: 21 Aug 12 15:17
Amazing scenes. When video packed in I switched to ATR and was still able to lay Blue Dune.

Where were they all?
By:
colonel mossy
When: 21 Aug 12 15:21
It will get brushed under the carpet like everything seems to the do in the UK. The company who supply the pictures must be Yodel in disguise.
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 15:23
All I can tell you is that we asked our integrity department to look at instances where this happened (ie pictures dropped out near the finish). They found nothing to suggest there was manipulation of the markets or things being swept. That'll be done again after this. I'm not trying to defend or palm it off - as regular posters will know, I just to try to inform where I can.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 15:26
BCM2

I asked my integrity dept to take a look aswell (that's me btw) and i can confirm that my p + l is being manipulated by the loss of pictures.

In some cases it's downright dangerous for me.

Not playing yarmouth again today thats for sure
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 15:27
clouded - I understand. Hopefully you appreciate I am just trying to tell you as much as I know, rather than be accused (not by you!) of ignoring it.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 15:31
of course we appreciate it BCM2

but for all your concern and investigation.. nothing has changed mate
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 15:32
I know. Makes me a look a bit of a ..............
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 15:41
it doesn't

don't think that


it just seems that someone wields more power unfortunately
By:
Nashwon
When: 21 Aug 12 15:45
Hi BCM2

Thanks for your recent messages!

Just a thought..for workaday UK racing when is the highest number of bets placed in running? (Number of bets not stake amount). 

Cheers
Nash
By:
Betfair Community Manager 2
When: 21 Aug 12 15:50
Nash - that really varies. Depends on how many races, type of race, number of meetings, strength of the field etc etc. There isn't really a discernible pattern.
By:
Nashwon
When: 21 Aug 12 15:55
Hi BCM2

Ok thanks I was just grasping at straws.

Looks like there is a more obvious answer now that your suppliers have reported that they had an 'severance' of service for Yarmouth.

Cheers
Nash
By:
loper
When: 21 Aug 12 16:09
It happened again!Cry
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 16:11
ok here loper  Confused
By:
loper
When: 21 Aug 12 16:14
Mine cut out as soon as the gates opened then came back with 3 to run.

Cant have been me alone, it had all the classic symptoms of earlier breaks in transmission.
By:
Rollo Tomasi
When: 21 Aug 12 16:20
lamott,
So I need to pray for more blank live video screens?
By:
clouded leopard
When: 21 Aug 12 17:00
lost pics worcester

crucial stage
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 21 Aug 12 17:05
Yep - happened again.
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